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[Hand]

Turn it up, mate. Journalism at RMIT is a 96 ATAR;

Is it? You could comfortably get into Journalism at Melbourne Uni with that rank. Let alone RMIT. Geez

 

[West_Coast_Eagles]

Thats what i was thinking. Why would you want to go
To rmit. Melb uni is the best by far.

 

[Hank93]

So how does ATAR work exactly?
Is it just your percentage of the year like how grades are determined or is there another factor involved?

My understanding is its a rank against the rest of the students in your state.

So if you are in the top 5% of the students in your state, your ATAR is 95 (Being 100-5).

Thats why they highest score you can achieve is a 99.95, as its impossible to be in the top 0% of the state.

Each state has a different system to calculate your overall aggregate score (SA is a score out 80 - 4 subjects worth 20 points each).

Also, the ATAR to get into Journalism at Uni SA was about 85.

 

[Andonis1997]

Thanks guys

 

[Andonis1997]

I didnt do english in yr12

EFA..

 

[akkaps]

hdecure, all the states use the ATAR system which is out of 99.95, it changed 2 years ago. Although Queensland still use their own system, which is a intergreal figure where the lower the score the better the result. The International Baccalaureate (IB) is the other system, where their scoring system is completely different. Some schools, including mine, offer the IB along with the standard HSC/VCE.

If anyone wants to know more about the IB, let me know and I will explain.

 

[Andonis1997]

I don't have it at my school.
I used to for Primary School.

 

[akkaps]

I used to for Primary School.

What do you mean? The IB is an alternative to HSC/VCE, and isn't in primary schools.

 

[West_Coast_Eagles]

I didnt do maths in year 12 not sure why you would misquote that. Get to
Yr12 & uni first before having a crack mate

 

[Silent Alarm]

As SA said. The ATAR is calculated as the sum of your English study score plus your next 3 highest study scores and 10% of the remaining subject. These study scores have been standardized (you would have learnt about standardization in Maths in year 12), according to 30 being the mean and a standard deviation of 7. So the aggregated score is matched against everyone else and then given a numerated result out of 99.95. Although, the highest study score is 50 in most subjects, languages like Latin can get marked up to 55.

I think it's a bit different, depending on what state you're in. We never had anything like a study score. All coursework was just the regular percentage. And, unfortunately for me, English wasn't the most important subject. In fact, the curriculum is heavily weighted to people who like science and maths.

I didnt do maths in yr12

Neither did I!

Thats what i was thinking. Why would you want to go
To rmit. Melb uni is the best by far.

Is it? You could comfortably get into Journalism at Melbourne Uni with that rank. Let alone RMIT. Geez

You guys are going on like RMIT is Burnie TAFE!
With an ATAR of 96, you couldn't do Arts at Melb Uni: That requires a 99 or something. But their lowest requirement (y'know, because obviously not everyone gets a 99...) this year is an 85. From what RMIT were saying to me on the phone, they barely budge below a 96. I think she said a 91 was the lowest they went in the last two or three years.
So there's a reason RMIT has a high and less-lenient cut off. They get more applicants. That's because it's undeniably the best journalism school in Australia (as is their architecture and a few other Arts programs). Melbourne Uni is a better school for the sciences and maths. The journalism and general arts faculty at RMIT has better facilities, more experienced lecturers and tutors, and also more prestige attached to the name. RMIT can afford to pick and choose as much as they want, because there's a line of people chucking it as their first preference.
And Bradles, I want to go to RMIT because, as I said, it's pretty grouse. It's also the closest to the city (because, yeah, it's in the city..), the architecture is cool, and I have a couple of mates there. Then again, how is a Queenslander and a bloke who goes to Supertafe in the sticks supposed to know that?

 

[Hank93]

hdecure, all the states use the ATAR system which is out of 99.95, it changed 2 years ago. Although Queensland still use their own system, which is a intergreal figure where the lower the score the better the result. The International Baccalaureate (IB) is the other system, where their scoring system is completely different. Some schools, including mine, offer the IB along with the standard HSC/VCE.

If anyone wants to know more about the IB, let me know and I will explain.

I realise they all use ATAR, but the way each student achieves their overall aggregate score is different from state to state.

The students aggregate score is ranked against the other students in their state, and this rank is their ATAR.

Here is how the university aggregate is calculated in South Australia. http://www.satac.edu.au/SACE_NTCET/uni.htm

For each university aggregate score (in the range 0-80.0) obtained by the students in this cohort, the percentage of students who obtained that score or better is calculated. This is known as calculating the percentile distribution.

> Each score in the range 0-80.0 now has a corresponding percentile rank in the range 0-100. For example, if a score of 70.4 or better out of 80.0 has been obtained by 10% of the cohort, the score of 70.4 will correspond to a percentile rank of 90.0 (100 – 10).

> The 2011 cohort may differ from that of other years in that it may represent a smaller or larger percentage of the population of the same age group. The percentage from the given year is known as the participation rate. It is calculated using population statistics obtained from the Australian Bureau of Statistics and measuring these against the size of the cohort. If an allowance were not made for this, the final ATAR would not be comparable from one year to the next.

> The percentile rank is then adjusted to take account of the participation rate and the result is the Australian Tertiary Admission Rank (ATAR).

So other states like Victoria and NSW can calculate the university aggregate differently (and how many subjects and which subjects they need to complete), but they still receive an ATAR from this process.

 

[West_Coast_Eagles]

Mate your atar does not count when you have been in the system 12 months.

U could have got into melb uni as a mature age with rpl's

 

[jethro11]

Fitzroy community college?

The community school is full of free range ferals. Try to avoid going within 20 yards of it.

 

[Andonis1997]

What do you mean? The IB is an alternative to HSC/VCE, and isn't in primary schools.

We're talking about International Bachauleureate (it's a hard word!) aren't we?

 

[akkaps]

We're talking about International Bachauleureate (it's a hard word!) aren't we?

That's what I am talking about, not sure about you though.

 

[Andonis1997]

That's what I am talking about, not sure about you though.

Yeah, I had that for years 6 and 7.

 

[akkaps]

Yeah, I had that for years 6 and 7.

Okay, that's weird.

 

[Andonis1997]

Yeah, because I remember seeing the IB logo on my report cards.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Mate your atar does not count when you have been in the system 12 months.

U could have got into melb uni as a mature age with rpl's

RPI?

You've completely misread, or just not read at all (g'day, T Abbott) what I said. RMIT is a better university for Journalism than Melbourne Uni.

I want to go to RMIT; not Melb Uni. RMIT is better than Melb Uni for what I want to do.

It's a very well respected uni. The thing I've realised with Victorian unis is they're less general than Perth's. In WA, the hierarchy is obvious. But in Victoria, it kind of isn't: Monash isn't very well respected for Arts, but is awesome for engineering; just as RMIT is the opposite way around. Swinburne is good for Journalism, awful for their science faculty.

I also find it kind of funny how you're kind of undermining the decency of RMIT when you go to school in Bendigo or Ballarat – hugely stigmatised and barely a cut above a glorified TAFE course.

 

[West_Coast_Eagles]

Do you live in vic? RPL google it i dont go to uni in country vic mate my uni is located 7.5 kms from melbournes cbd.

 

[West_Coast_Eagles]

By rights you should have had a rpl session booked in when you enroll

 

[Hand]

Then again, how is a Queenslander and a bloke who goes to Supertafe in the sticks supposed to know that?

I'm a born and bred Victorian, hailing from the Mornington Peninsula.. I moved to Queensland at the end of year 10. I got a low OP, which I'm guessing would've converted to about 80-85 of an ATAR in other states.

I don't go to TAFE? I took a year off in 2012, starting at a Queensland University in March.

Don't be a dick.

 

[West_Coast_Eagles]

Since when is a bachelor at a university a tafe course at a super tafe?

 

[Silent Alarm]

I'm a born and bred Victorian, hailing from the Mornington Peninsula.. I moved to Queensland at the end of year 10. I got a low OP, which I'm guessing would've converted to about 80-85 of an ATAR in other states.

I don't go to TAFE? I took a year off in 2012, starting at a Queensland University in March.

Don't be a dick.

I was referring to Bradles with that TAFE comment. I do know your sitch.

Also, I'm just defending my choice in uni. And I basically think it's laughable that a kid who has never gone to uni a day in his life is telling me about what uni is better than what. I was light-hearted until you basically implied that RMIT isn't very prestigious (wrong), that I could've gotten into Melb Uni (possibly, but you are no authority on that), and that Melbourne is better than every other uni at every single course (generalised, false, and a part of the massive myth that there's a sole hierarchy in terms of a uni's worth).

What uni do you go to, WCE? Vic Uni...

 

[West_Coast_Eagles]

Vic uni footscray park