Play Nice Random Chat Thread: Episode III

[giantroo]

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/turkey/erdogan-words-on-turkish-history-taken-out-of-context/1424198

The Terrorists manifesto which the Turkish President was referring to:

 

[Tas]

How many kurdish muslims has Edrogan butchered? I am guessing you can add a few zeroes on the end of what Tarrant has done and not come close.

I haven't read the ramblings of a psychopath terrorist or those of a psychopath war criminal.

 

[RobZombie]

-AOC is an actress
-Jones is the leader of the resistance
-I know about the Kochie thing because work colleagues were talking about it. As a genuis that likes to be informed i watched it. Also i hate port and that adds to my trolling port file.
-"my time is so valuable so I'll continue spouting misinformation and being an ideologes"
-

And groin guru is a character someone plays on Bigfooty. Ffs ferball stop giving this shit oxygen.

 

[Groin guru]

And groin guru is a character someone plays on Bigfooty. Ffs ferball stop giving this shit oxygen.

It's "shit" because you disagree. Thankfully we aren't at a point where you can just suppress the voice of those with differing viewpoints. You are free to have your echo chamber / safe space Rob...don't pressure people to do the same.

 

[RobZombie]

It's "shit" because you disagree. Thankfully we aren't at a point where you can just suppress the voice of those with differing viewpoints. You are free to have your echo chamber / safe space Rob...don't pressure people to do the same.

Pointing out that you’re a shitposter who never argues anything in good faith isn’t suppressing anything. You’re obviously smart. I’d say too smart to be sucked in by the likes of Jones and Watson. I think you admire their shitpostery more than their politics. What conclusion can I possibly be left with? Nobody should feel obliged to waste their time engaging earnestly with it just for your amusement.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

I'm back from my summer break away from BF, did I miss anything good?

 

[Chadwiko]

I'm back from my summer break away from BF, did I miss anything good?

 

[Val Keating]

Made me laugh

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Made me laugh

You wasted 18 seconds of my life, o I would have just wasted them anyway.

 

[Val Keating]

You wasted 18 seconds of my life, o I would have just wasted them anyway.

Good 18 seconds tho

 

[ferball]

And groin guru is a character someone plays on Bigfooty. Ffs ferball stop giving this shit oxygen.

I find conspiracy theories fascinating, especially those full on US ones. There's lots going on there. A lot of it is a response to everything that happened after about 1960 in the US - a response to civil rights, the sexual revolution and the changes feminism brought. Loss of faith in previous authority figures etc etc. There's alot resentment about the loss of something (power and status I guess) in there. And there are real conspiracies there. Ones that people got away with and consolidated their power as a result. The most obvious was Iran/Contra and everything that went on around it.

Alex Jones is ... I dunno some sort of emergent media figure. As the internet came about and people became able to publish whatever they felt like without restrictions (mostly cost - anyone can make a website/blog/manifesto/post on twitter) people like Jones became very popular. But what's also interesting is the very real drift toward far right politics that's followed this. Many of these sites didn't have a political alignment for years - tho the far right were always pushing for ways to plant memes (in the original sense of the word) in peoples heads - but post Obama's initial election this stuff has gone a bit further. And the political consciousness of those ideas has devolved.

That thing I mentioned upthread - Jones et al circa 2007/8 talking about False Flag terrorism and western governments using the fear of Muslim extremism to expand the security state "usher in big brother" morphing into the same people in 2017/18 talking about the threat to Western (ie white) civilisation from Muslim extremists and maybe Big Brother isn't such a bad idea - is a real thing. You can see it if you can be bothered trawling thru the archives of those sites.

There is something happening here, but like another Mr Jones (in the Dylan song) I dunno what it is. Some combination of titillation - the same sort of excitement that horror movies generate - and genuine resentment at the way the world is changing. Plus a whole shit load of disinformation about nearly everything that is happening on earth right now coming from PR organistaions like the Heartland institute. IMO just to destroy the idea of critical thinking and intelligent action about the future - both of which are a majior threat to the status quo and the ongoing business model of western society - for example we are seriously thinking about mining coal in the Galilee basin. No one has done a Carbon budget assessment on what the consequences of burning that coal would be.

Society no longer has the critical thinking skills to assess information and move forward on the basis of those assessments. People like Jones are more a function or symptom of this process than the cause of it.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Made me laugh

Did giggle.

FWIW, it looks like it's in Budapest, but it could be any one of a number of the cities in that region.

 

[ferball]

I view the current political climate as sharing similarities with Soviet and Nazi propaganda, it’s just the propaganda techniques are a lot more sophisticated and not as overt as they were in the 1930s.

The level of sensationalism and political euphoria is disturbing to me.

It is disturbing.

I don't like that there is censorship of that prick from Grafton's "manifesto" for example, or even the idea of competing "fake news". When Jarrad Leigh Loughner shot those people in Arizona all those years ago there was a massive push by the "left" to frame his actions as part of a continuum with what the US far right, that Tarrant prick and other scummy neo nazis have done even tho he was clearly something else - a nihilistic, ****ed up individual who obviously didn't fit in anywhere.

But its no different to what the "other side" do either.

There's a whole lot of really sophisticated info on how to manipulate people via propaganda these days. (This is why I get the shits with people criticising "post modernism" btw. Its not an ideology its a series of techniques for analysing text or any language/info that can be converted to text. If anything it should be mandatory in high school as a way of preparing kids brains so they can use critical thinking and make their own assessments.)

There is always some authority figure that people will defer instead of assessing info on its merits and making their own decisions.

But its also a function of twitter and facebook and short comments. No one writes blogs any more. They take work and effort to make and to read. I think its having an effect on society. We are getting dumber cos 140 characters leaves no room for nuance or subtlety. And cos people make videos then like the guy in Tefs video above spend at least half their time talking about themselves in those videos, instead of their ideas.

 

[Val Keating]

Did giggle.

FWIW, it looks like it's in Budapest, but it could be any one of a number of the cities in that region.

Yeah I was trying to figure out where it was

 

[ferball]

No serious sociologist any longer believes that the voice of the people expresses any divine or specially wise and lofty idea. The voice of the people expresses the mind of the people, and that mind is made up for it by the group leaders in whom it believes and by those persons who understand the manipulation of public opinion. It is composed of inherited prejudices and symbols and clichés and verbal formulas supplied to them by the leaders.

 

[Groin guru]

I find conspiracy theories fascinating, especially those full on US ones. There's lots going on there. A lot of it is a response to everything that happened after about 1960 in the US - a response to civil rights, the sexual revolution and the changes feminism brought. Loss of faith in previous authority figures etc etc. There's alot resentment about the loss of something (power and status I guess) in there. And there are real conspiracies there. Ones that people got away with and consolidated their power as a result. The most obvious was Iran/Contra and everything that went on around it.

Alex Jones is ... I dunno some sort of emergent media figure. As the internet came about and people became able to publish whatever they felt like without restrictions (mostly cost - anyone can make a website/blog/manifesto/post on twitter) people like Jones became very popular. But what's also interesting is the very real drift toward far right politics that's followed this. Many of these sites didn't have a political alignment for years - tho the far right were always pushing for ways to plant memes (in the original sense of the word) in peoples heads - but post Obama's initial election this stuff has gone a bit further. And the political consciousness of those ideas has devolved.

That thing I mentioned upthread - Jones et al circa 2007/8 talking about False Flag terrorism and western governments using the fear of Muslim extremism to expand the security state "usher in big brother" morphing into the same people in 2017/18 talking about the threat to Western (ie white) civilisation from Muslim extremists and maybe Big Brother isn't such a bad idea - is a real thing. You can see it if you can be bothered trawling thru the archives of those sites.

There is something happening here, but like another Mr Jones (in the Dylan song) I dunno what it is. Some combination of titillation - the same sort of excitement that horror movies generate - and genuine resentment at the way the world is changing. Plus a whole shit load of disinformation about nearly everything that is happening on earth right now coming from PR organistaions like the Heartland institute. IMO just to destroy the idea of critical thinking and intelligent action about the future - both of which are a majior threat to the status quo and the ongoing business model of western society - for example we are seriously thinking about mining coal in the Galilee basin. No one has done a Carbon budget assessment on what the consequences of burning that coal would be.

Society no longer has the critical thinking skills to assess information and move forward on the basis of those assessments. People like Jones are more a function or symptom of this process than the cause of it.

Incorrect. Jones has always been a libertarian at heart and pro limited government control. He is as anti-big brother as you can get and one of the only people willing to fight against it. Everyone else just sits there meekly and says "I don't care if Facebook or google sell my data...I've got nothing to hide" or just shrugs their shoulders. There is a reason why they went out of their way to deplatform him and it clearly wasn't the reasons listed by Vijaya Gadde, considering they were all bogus. It is correct when people said they were just using him to test the waters:

Less than a year on we have Vox asking youtube to break their own algorithms to align Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson with conspiracies. Then you have Google worker and one of the people that created the algorithm saying it was his mission to do so.

Then you have Kara Swisher lobbying for the banning of Ben Shapiro from youtube in an interview with Youtube's CEO. Why? because her son was watching videos and she doesn't like him so she uses the narrative that within 2 clicks he was watching Nazi content...

https://www.news.com.au/finance/bus...s/news-story/44479280c616409d61042ccb148e4574

https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/blog-posts/cambridge-university-rescinds-my-fellowship/

One of the best universities in the world gives in to weak-minded whiners and pathetically hides under anonymity while they do it. The state of the world.

Get on your knees ladies and gentleman because your freedom is well and truly closing in. But freedom and free speech isn't worth fighting for...it's more important to call people "silly" and virtue signal to all the people in here so you can show them just how much you care, isn't that right RobZombie
Thank christ for the progressives in here

 

[goalieboy82]

i am the Employee of the Northern Region (there are 3 Regions) of the company i work for.

 

[Groin guru]

Better make those safe spaces bigger universities

 

[Val Keating]

I see due to pressure Wells Fargo are going to withdraw their funding of private prisons. **** those mother****ers

 

[Val Keating]

 

[ferball]

Incorrect. Jones has always been a libertarian at heart and pro limited government control. He is as anti-big brother as you can get and one of the only people willing to fight against it. Everyone else just sits there meekly and says "I don't care if Facebook or google sell my data...I've got nothing to hide" or just shrugs their shoulders. There is a reason why they went out of their way to deplatform him and it clearly wasn't the reasons listed by Vijaya Gadde, considering they were all bogus. It is correct when people said they were just using him to test the waters:

Less than a year on we have Vox asking youtube to break their own algorithms to align Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson with conspiracies. Then you have Google worker and one of the people that created the algorithm saying it was his mission to do so.

Then you have Kara Swisher lobbying for the banning of Ben Shapiro from youtube in an interview with Youtube's CEO. Why? because her son was watching videos and she doesn't like him so she uses the narrative that within 2 clicks he was watching Nazi content...

https://www.news.com.au/finance/bus...s/news-story/44479280c616409d61042ccb148e4574

https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/blog-posts/cambridge-university-rescinds-my-fellowship/

One of the best universities in the world gives in to weak-minded whiners and pathetically hides under anonymity while they do it. The state of the world.

Get on your knees ladies and gentleman because your freedom is well and truly closing in. But freedom and free speech isn't worth fighting for...it's more important to call people "silly" and virtue signal to all the people in here so you can show them just how much you care, isn't that right RobZombie
Thank christ for the progressives in here

Your face is the model for this isn't it:

 

[Groin guru]

Your face is the model for this isn't it:

You got me confused with Chadwiko.

That's all I see with my sunglasses on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oruBxje1MG4&t=1s

 

[ferball]

Awesome lefty film you've cited.

Seriously your new head on AJs body is the mirror image of an npc. I guess you weren't programmed to notice.

Anyway are you banging on about freedom of speech when you talk about youtube and twitter an google changing their algorithms or whatever?

Ironic. Most of what you mention is non government organisations exercising their freedom to do what they will. But Australia is effectively a police state, not necessarily in practice but in terms of whats on the books. While people like you bang on about google algorithms and ignore anti terror, anti sedition laws, anti association laws (against evul bikies of course, they'd never be used against ordinary people like uz), legislation to protect intelligence agencies from public scrutiny, anti whistle blower laws (in the name of stopping der boats) etc etc then people like Alex Jones are earning the wages their masters pay them. #tinfoilhatmoment

 

[Groin guru]

Awesome lefty film you've cited.

Seriously your new head on AJs body is the mirror image of an npc. I guess you weren't programmed to notice.

Anyway are you banging on about freedom of speech when you talk about youtube and twitter an google changing their algorithms or whatever?

Ironic. Most of what you mention is non government organisations exercising their freedom to do what they will. But Australia is effectively a police state, not necessarily in practice but in terms of whats on the books. While people like you bang on about google algorithms and ignore anti terror, anti sedition laws, anti association laws (against evul bikies of course, they'd never be used against ordinary people like uz), legislation to protect intelligence agencies from public scrutiny, anti whistle blower laws (in the name of stopping der boats) etc etc then people like Alex Jones are earning the wages their masters pay them. #tinfoilhatmoment

No. That's you being misinformed. Section 230 friend:

https://www.minclaw.com/legal-resou...ion-230-of-the-communication-decency-act-cda/

Platforms escape scrutiny because they are supposed to be platforms...not publishers. Except they are acting as both now. Hence why there are calls for Trump to readdress this. Something has to be done because they are too powerful now and shaping events/elections. Look at google - 93% of searches go through them.

Tim Pool highlights exactly the power they have and it's scary watching Jack Dorsey and his lawyer bumble their way through the interview. They are taking advantage of section 230 and operating outside of what they were supposed to do.



Alex Jones is funded by supplements.

 

[ferball]

What does an American law have to do with us again?