Play Nice Random Chat Thread IV

[Val Keating]

Trump literally said they’re only staying to keep the oil

 

[Val Keating]

 

[the big lebowski]

Judge Liz Gaynor today when sentencing two young chaps over the stabbing of one T. Mokbel in Barwon prison.

Doesn't hold back.

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Except in the sentence. 5 years for a pre meditated attempt to kill someone.

Typical really.

 

[Tas]

BLM are blaming institutionalised racism.

The city where Floyd was killed was the same city where that Australian lady called the police to report a rape in progress, she came out to speak to the police and she was shot dead, the officer was black. Was that institutionalised racism or was that person just not fit to be a police officer?

I do not envy the police, they have a very different relationship with the public than in most other western countries, they need to reform the police but they have major issues when it comes to how people interact with police (whites as well as blacks). The vast majority of videos I see of police brutality is usually an arse-kicking that comes after someone was resisting arrest, someone who knows their rights and is beligerent and in some cases are violent with the police. I think if Australians or Europeans behaved in the same manner to the same extent we would see the Police changes how they acted with the public. 106 police officers died last year in the USA, 55 were feloniously killed in the line of duty at an average age of 37. If we gunned down that many police here how long before we started to get an arse kicking?

Their society has a problem with violence, it is why they want to hold on to their guns because when the shit hits the fan the police wont be there. Nobody in Australia needs a gun to defend themselves.

You’re incorrect in claiming they are placing sole responsibility on Trump.

I didn't say sole, but people lost their shit when he said he was bringing in the military to stop the destruction. What do people expect when the state governors just sat back and did nothing?

And again, antifa is a footnote. Don’t play in to it.

You think Antifa aren't the ones behind the violence? So you think that is just the Floyd protestors? That is interesting.

You obviously share a dim view of US democracy like most of us do judging by your last sentence. That dystopia has started playing out.

I don't think that is how it will pan out. We are just seeing the part-time military deployed as a show of force, if he stars to deploy the marines then you know he has an intent to put down protestors with deadly force.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Tas institutionalised racism is embedded; one edge case can’t refute this analysis.

People should be angry that a militarised police force is creating violence, and the actual military may be brought in. Peaceful protestors were tear gassed so a photo op to white nationalists could be staged. Keep this in mind next time you hear shrieking about right wing tweets being deleted.

Of course antifa aren’t behind the violence or looting. They are a part of it. The main cause of violence is police.

 

[Tectonic]

The city where Floyd was killed was the same city where that Australian lady called the police to report a rape in progress, she came out to speak to the police and she was shot dead, the officer was black. Was that institutionalised racism or was that person just not fit to be a police officer?

I do not envy the police, they have a very different relationship with the public than in most other western countries, they need to reform the police but they have major issues when it comes to how people interact with police (whites as well as blacks). The vast majority of videos I see of police brutality is usually an arse-kicking that comes after someone was resisting arrest, someone who knows their rights and is beligerent and in some cases are violent with the police. I think if Australians or Europeans behaved in the same manner to the same extent we would see the Police changes how they acted with the public. 106 police officers died last year in the USA, 55 were feloniously killed in the line of duty at an average age of 37. If we gunned down that many police here how long before we started to get an arse kicking?

Their society has a problem with violence, it is why they want to hold on to their guns because when the shit hits the fan the police wont be there. Nobody in Australia needs a gun to defend themselves.



I didn't say sole, but people lost their shit when he said he was bringing in the military to stop the destruction. What do people expect when the state governors just sat back and did nothing?



You think Antifa aren't the ones behind the violence? So you think that is just the Floyd protestors? That is interesting.



I don't think that is how it will pan out. We are just seeing the part-time military deployed as a show of force, if he stars to deploy the marines then you know he has an intent to put down protestors with deadly force.

I just want to say that the police here are just as capable of brutality as their American counterparts. We've seen it often enough.

Playing devil's advocate, some of the stories my brother has from the force depict a life surrounded by the worst kind of people on offer, and on top of that the officers are only ever treated with either fear or disrespect. It's a shit environment to work in and requires a certain type to do it. Unfortunately that type is also aggressive, dominant and pig headed.

Have you seen Demolition Man?
It seems to me people want police to act like they do in that. It's not going to work while we have a system that pushes the have nots down so hard.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Have you seen Demolition Man?
It seems to me people want police to act like they do in that. It's not going to work while we have a system that pushes the have nots down so hard.

“Excuse me sir, what appears to be your boggle?”

 

[Snake_Baker]

Tas institutionalised racism is embedded; one edge case can’t refute this analysis.

THis is your starting point Tas. It is not even open for debate.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Shouting all lives matter while having a bow and arrow ready to go is some flex.

 

[Val Keating]

The city where Floyd was killed was the same city where that Australian lady called the police to report a rape in progress, she came out to speak to the police and she was shot dead, the officer was black. Was that institutionalised racism or was that person just not fit to be a police officer?

I do not envy the police, they have a very different relationship with the public than in most other western countries, they need to reform the police but they have major issues when it comes to how people interact with police (whites as well as blacks). The vast majority of videos I see of police brutality is usually an arse-kicking that comes after someone was resisting arrest, someone who knows their rights and is beligerent and in some cases are violent with the police. I think if Australians or Europeans behaved in the same manner to the same extent we would see the Police changes how they acted with the public. 106 police officers died last year in the USA, 55 were feloniously killed in the line of duty at an average age of 37. If we gunned down that many police here how long before we started to get an arse kicking?

Their society has a problem with violence, it is why they want to hold on to their guns because when the shit hits the fan the police wont be there. Nobody in Australia needs a gun to defend themselves.



I didn't say sole, but people lost their shit when he said he was bringing in the military to stop the destruction. What do people expect when the state governors just sat back and did nothing?



You think Antifa aren't the ones behind the violence? So you think that is just the Floyd protestors? That is interesting.



I don't think that is how it will pan out. We are just seeing the part-time military deployed as a show of force, if he stars to deploy the marines then you know he has an intent to put down protestors with deadly force.

The police are starting the violence at the protests. It’s pretty well documented as nearly everyone has a phone with a camera.

 

[DesertRoo]

Lee Camp: 19 Facts About American Policing That Will Blow Your Mind

Just a few facts will change everything you think you know about American police, writes Lee Camp, with pictures by Eleanor Goldfield.

www.mintpressnews.com

Good read from Lee Camp for anyone who’s looking at the American police force.

 

[Snake_Baker]

It looks as though Victoria has its own Trump.

 

[Val Keating]

There’s hundreds of these videos. They’re all over the Internet.

 

[Val Keating]

 

[Snake_Baker]

 

[Snake_Baker]

Wrong neighborhood for a humanities student in a balaclava.

 

[Tectonic]

 

[DesertRoo]

The Dems played identity politics ages ago..
here’s some damning stats,
The number of police killings in the US disproportionately affects African Americans. Despite only making up 13 percent of the US population, Black Americans are two-and-a-half times as likely as white Americans to be killed by the police.
Unsurprisingly, the three largest states - California, Texas and Florida - have the highest total number of killings of Black people by police officers. Once these figures are adjusted for the population size and demographics, in nearly every state, African Americans face a significantly higher risk of being killed by police officers than white Americans.

In Utah, the African Americans comprise just 1.06 percent of the population but they accounted for 10 percent of police killings over the past seven years - a disproportional rate of 9.21 times. In Minnesota, Black Americans are nearly four times as likely to be killed by law enforcement, with Black victims comprising 20 percent of those killed, despite comprising only 5 percent of the overall population.

 

[Tectonic]

 

[Tectonic]

Of course, if the military is trusted to keep the peace better than law enforcement, maybe you have a problem

 

[Snake_Baker]

Can someone re-post that "Institutionalized racism" comment again?

 

[Mcarcherey]

The Dems played identity politics ages ago..
here’s some damning stats,
The number of police killings in the US disproportionately affects African Americans. Despite only making up 13 percent of the US population, Black Americans are two-and-a-half times as likely as white Americans to be killed by the police.
Unsurprisingly, the three largest states - California, Texas and Florida - have the highest total number of killings of Black people by police officers. Once these figures are adjusted for the population size and demographics, in nearly every state, African Americans face a significantly higher risk of being killed by police officers than white Americans.

In Utah, the African Americans comprise just 1.06 percent of the population but they accounted for 10 percent of police killings over the past seven years - a disproportional rate of 9.21 times. In Minnesota, Black Americans are nearly four times as likely to be killed by law enforcement, with Black victims comprising 20 percent of those killed, despite comprising only 5 percent of the overall population.

Don't they commit much more crimes?
Are the biggest murders of Black's not other Black's?

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[Scallop Industry Thug]

Trump will win. Too much economic power wants him back. He’ll keep throwing chook feed to the I hate sjws, blacks and antifa is everywhere crowd to win enough votes. Plus the dems are a rabble.

 

[DesertRoo]

Full text of "Our Enemies in Blue - Kristian Williams.pdf (PDFy mirror)"

Our enemies in blue, start from chapter two..
Two The Origins of American Policing
27

Three The Genesis of a Policed Society
55

Four Cops and Klan, Hand in Hand
77

 

[Tas]

I said the USA doesn't need their oil, based on their production and consumption. Most of their imported crude comes from Canada.

Trump is a master of bullshit. America can't just steal another country's oil, similar to his ridiculous sentiments about America leaving Iraq's oil behind.

When Isis left that part of Syria, they destroyed most of the infrastructure, the Kurds were able to repair a very limited number of them. USA is there largely as moral support for Turkey, he left a handful of troops and now China has sent in an aircraft carrier to support Syria. I think Turkey just intends to bomb the shit out of the Kurds, this is what they get for siding with the USA.

It should be a lesson for Australia that we will only remain a US ally as long as we are useful and convenient. We need to be smarter than we have been of late.