Play Nice Random Chat Thread IV

[Val Keating]

Deserved if only for the fact that most of his shows were hot trash IMO

They really were shit. I had a mate at work cracking up about it saying how good it was...not even a giggle. I’m the same with Little Britain I find it shithouse but most people love it.

 

[Tarka_Dal]

Racism definition revised by US dictionary Merriam-Webster

Some serious Orwellian manipulation of language.

 

[Ether]

Honestly further to this, just keep it in mind when Aly goes on one of his holier then thou virtue signalling wanks. He’s just like the rest of em. Even had the front to say to Heritier ‘I too have suffered from racism’ only to go on and downplay what happened to Heritier because they wanted to shut down the story.

FWIW Aly comes from a very privileged background. Poor fella. Don’t know how he managed to get through it.

Frankly, having read that thread and watched the clips I am none the wiser on what happened at Collingwood. If Heritier was a politician answering questions on another topic we'd say he appeared to be evasive on the question of the extent of it. Are you just taking the opportunity to Waleed bash (which appears to be apopular past time around here)?

 

[Val Keating]

Frankly, having read that thread and watched the clips I am none the wiser on what happened at Collingwood. If Heritier was a politician answering questions on another topic we'd say he appeared to be evasive on the question of the extent of it. Are you just taking the opportunity to Waleed bash (which appears to be apopular past time around here)?

I’m taking the other journalist at his word, why would he make it up?

 

[DesertRoo]

I’m taking the other journalist at his word, why would he make it up?

I believe the victim, who was backed by witnesses, not the journalist.

Especially television journalists who are paid to look good in a suit.

 

[Val Keating]

Is it that hard to believe that casual racism existed at a football club? Especially Collingwood and especially from Eddy?

 

[Val Keating]

I believe the victim, who was backed by witnesses, not the journalist.

Especially television journalists who are paid to look good in a suit.

By journalist I’m referring to Aamer Rahman. Fun fact- not a journalist he’s a comedian. I just checked lol.

There’s no doubt they nicknamed him chimp. Surprised it wasn’t Chocko tbh. Usually the go to nickname for darker skin dudes at footy clubs.

 

[DesertRoo]

Is it that hard to believe that casual racism existed at a football club? Especially Collingwood and especially from Eddy?

Is it hard to believe the afl would’ve lent on a broadcaster at the time, to make a story go away.
Esp when the afl was lying about the his state of mind, making him look crazy, and having an army of sycophant journalists repeat it over and over agin, that’s messed up.

EXCLUSIVE: Leaked Emails Reveal AFL's False Claims That It ‘Met’ With Héritier Lumumba Amid Growing Racism Scandal - New Matilda

The AFL – once again under fire over its handling of racism allegations within the nation’s wealthiest sporting code – appears to have mislead journalists that it has met with the player at the centre of the growing media storm. Late on Monday evening, the Herald Sun reported that “the AFL has...

newmatilda.com

 

[DesertRoo]

By journalist I’m referring to Aamer Rahman. Fun fact- not a journalist he’s a comedian. I just checked lol.

There’s no doubt they nicknamed him chimp. Surprised it wasn’t Chocko tbh. Usually the go to nickname for darker skin dudes at footy clubs.

Nah, I’m referring to the other one in the room. Who set the agenda, who had the opportunity to speak truth to power but suckled up to it instead.

 

[Val Keating]

Nah, I’m referring to the other one in the room. Who set the agenda, who had the opportunity to speak truth to power but suckled up to it instead.

He showed his true colours for sure. Shit like this will be the end of legacy media

 

[rickety]

How do you differentiate between a black and white tele and a coloured one? Other than seeing the obvious difference? I mean, it's rude to point, so do you just kinda sideways nod and say that one? Are jelly beans next? Black cats perhaps? Does white out mean more than liquid paper?

 

[andana]

Been reading Ben Eltons book Identity Crisis. Covers a lot of this stuff.

 

[Tas]

I snorted my coffee mid sip reading the term Talcum X.

 

[tazaa]

Tropic Thunder must be next. This is wild

If they do that I’m canceling.
They don’t get it.
Tropic thunder actually raised awareness about blackface. Stiller and Downey Jr mentioned recently in an interview.
And it’s accepted and mostly supported by African Americans in the states.

 

[Val Keating]

If they do that I’m canceling.
They don’t get it.
Tropic thunder actually raised awareness about blackface. Stiller and Downey Jr mentioned recently in an interview.
And it’s accepted and mostly supported by African Americans in the states.

Cancel Netflix? Better hurry up they’ll cancel themselves at this rate

 

[ferball]

Here’s the thing, pulling statues down is one thing, but people should be demanding the monarch system be torn down and claiming restitution from the crown because of it.
Not surprising they’re Saxe-Coburg-Gotha

Monarchy of Belgium - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

They are all Saxe Coburg Gotha. If any family actually runs the world it's them.

Not the rothchilds or rocker fellas, soros, the Saudis or whatever. They have their fingers in nearly every pie. Every European Royal family is related to that mob, a significant amount of the wealth in the world is held by that family. You know that old joke "The Aristocrats"...

I'm a little bit surprised people are surprised by the state of affairs right now. We've had forty years of post reality politics ... well culture actually. Is it any wonder nobody has a clue what to do or how to act any more? Plus mobs are like that. Human beings are irrational even at the best of times. Look at Richard Dawkins.

Right now, with things changing so quickly on so many fronts no one is acting sanely. Except the campaigners fleecing us all. But after decades of the denial of science for a variety of profit driven reasons (asbestos, fossil fuels, tobacco for example), of other aspects of reality for the same (privatisation of public assets and services for example). A lot of its to do with politics, especially the political wings of News Corp in Australia.

Ypu can only keep people in the dark and feed them bullshit for so long before they start acting like they are on mushrooms.

 

[Val Keating]

Is Jesse Ventura running as a third party legit?

 

[ferball]

Nah, I’m referring to the other one in the room. Who set the agenda, who had the opportunity to speak truth to power but suckled up to it instead.

That actually sums Waleed Aly up very nicely.

Were they on Salaam Cafe together? (Aly and Rahmen.)

 

[ferball]

Couldn't they just have removed Chris Lilley cos his work was shit?

 

[ferball]

Frankly, having read that thread and watched the clips I am none the wiser on what happened at Collingwood. If Heritier was a politician answering questions on another topic we'd say he appeared to be evasive on the question of the extent of it. Are you just taking the opportunity to Waleed bash (which appears to be apopular past time around here)?

You should see Nick Maxwell squirm when he's questioned about Lamumba's nickname in that doco that came out a few years ago.

 

[ferball]

I snorted my coffee mid sip reading the term Talcum X.

Sturgill Simpson went to school with Shaun King for a while, or so he claims, reckons he was regularly bashed by good ole boys wearing confederate flag shirts for "race baiting" aka being proud of his heritage not a submissive coconut bitch.

I believe Sturg, he was wearing a blue and white sweatshirt when he told the story.

 

[GarnerSmash]

Couldn't they just have removed Chris Lilley cos his work was shit?

I'm just happy that they haven't taken down White Chicks.

 

[Caracas]

Couldn't they just have removed Chris Lilley cos his work was shit?

Obviously, he’s not everyone’s cup of tea. However, it is fair to say, his work is satire. Exactly the same as Tropic Thunder. Either way, people are going to have to cop it sweet in times like this. No point in whinging when the storm blows your way. You do your best and be prepared to cop the flak - in my view.


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[ferball]

If you do not actively fight for your political right then you support whatever force determines the world you live in, be it majority rule in a democracy or a thug in a dictatorship. It is the lesson we learn from people who have laid down their lives so that future generations could live in peace. If you do not fight for your political opinion then your opinion doesn't matter in the real world.



Everyone with power and wealth in the past was a thief or a thrug of some sort. We don't celebrate the past by modern standards but recognise it put us on the path to greater enlightenment.



Religions are just another set of rules looking to establish political power, it is great if some people can find some spiritual comfort from them but it is all about power and control.


Surveillance is just an effective tool for finding out the truth. It is partly why I am amused by the degree to which people hate surveillance. If you do not break any laws and have no intention to then the only thing surveillance will do is help prove your innocence.




More than non-indigenous? I haven't seen anything credible that suggests this.



People should be upset about anyone who dies in custody, but are the deaths extraordinary by comparison to white people? The famous 1987 Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody didn't investigate the non-indigenous deaths in custody so it wasn't really able to draw a conclusion on if there was a higher rate of deaths in similar circumstances. A 1991 report by the same name found that the death rate in custody was similar for both indigenous and non-indigenous people, it found the number of indigenous deaths was disproportionate to the demographic statistics largely because indigenous people are massively over-represented in crimes.

Indigenous represent 3.3% of Australia's population yet are 28% of the total adult prison population as of 2019, we have a crisis in the country that indigenous people are struggling and things are getting worse and this is despite programs designed to address problems.

The Australian Law Reform Commission released a report in 2018 on the disproportionate incarceration rates found males were 2% of the male population and 27% of prison population, women worse off being 34% of the female prison population and that share has been growing over the last few decades.

A 2015 government report on The Health of Australia's Prisoners in 2015 states “Indigenous Australians were no more likely to die in custody than non-Indigenous Australians” and “With just over one-quarter (27 per cent) of prisoners in custody being Indigenous, and 17 percent of deaths in custody being Indigenous, Indigenous prisoners were under-represented.”

The question is why are indigenous over-represented in terms of prison population, the vast majority of people in prison are repeat offenders, according to ABS Prison in Australian (2019) data, 78% had been imprisoned under sentence previously. The breakdown of crimes seem to be fairly consistent with non-indigenous crimes, less illicit drug offences and more acts intended to cause injury.

The best solution to addressing deaths is to address the socio-economic factors which contribute to indigenous commiting a lot more crime, there are atrocious levels of family violence and domestic abuse problems, there are numerous other social problems many governments have tried to solve by throwing money at the problem directly or groups who think they have the answers. Nothing has been successful to date.



It is not that people do not care, they just do not have any power to do anything about it in a meaningful way. If you just release every prisoner and didn't put them back in jail it would just result in more suffering for the community. In a surprise to almost nobody, many of the prisoners let out by NYC and California due to coronavirus concerns were found to be re-offending, almost immediately. I don't think you can lock someone up in a hell hole for years and expect that they are going to come out the other end reformed. What leads people to a life of crime is a complete civil breakdown, some parts you can easily address, other parts are extremely difficult to, such as abuse received growing up and having a poor family structure.

We know the path a lot of broken kids are going to take but we don't do enough to prevent that happening.



As a community we don't tolerate them, I don't think we tolerate any deaths (indigenous or not). I am not saying there aren't any unjust deaths, there obviously are, but there are also unjust deaths to non-indigenous people. Some will call it racism when it comes to explain indigenous deaths, but it doesn't account for deaths in custody of non-indigenous at similar rates.

I think we have a problem with some people in the force being incompetent, others are campaigners and I think the vast majority of campaigners are campaigners to everyone.

This police officer that was acquitted in the Mulrunji's death went on to be a piece of shit somewhere else and abused someone else he thought was insulting him, before eventually retiring. We should have better people working as police officers.

My point is we want scumbags like that policeman off the force and people had to know he was abusive before that incident and he was abuse afterwards and he wasn't terminated yet we have these laws and standards, there are just too many people not doing their job and holding people accountable. However, there are numerous white people who are also killed in custody, some people just don't give a shit about them specifically, they only care about the indigenous that are wrongly abused or killed. A minority of shit cops doesn't mean we need to throw out the entire police force. We just need to get rid of the minority of shit cops.

Racism does exist and I am sure there are some piece of shit cops who unfairly target indigenous, but I think the vast majority are just campaigners who are campaigners to everyone. That doesn't make it right, we have to weed every single one of them off the police force.



From his article: https://www.news.com.au/national/bl...s/news-story/9c06a20372ff0b828b18b1222324b659

"These professional protesters are latching onto the Aboriginal deaths in custody issue to enable them to justify their confected outrage and go out marching with their protest signs that say: ‘Black lives matter’.

For them, an Aboriginal death in custody is proof positive of racism.

For Aboriginal deaths in custody, let’s provide some context here.

Aboriginal Australians in custody are less likely to die than non-Aboriginal Australians in custody."

As an Aboriginal, I am sure Dr Dillon would prefer things to improve for the indigenous community.

In 2016 BLM raised more than $100m from liberal foundations, George Soros coughed up another $33 million.

Black Lives Matter cashes in with $100 million from liberal foundations

For all its talk of being a street uprising, Black Lives Matter is increasingly awash in cash, raking in pledges of more than $100 million from liberal foundations and others eager to contribute to what has become the grant-making cause du jour.

www.washingtontimes.com

What exactly did the group accomplish between 2016 and 2020? Where has all the money gone?



What are you talking about? 9 of the 13 members of Minneapolis city council have pledged support for defunding the police, if you can get that kind of support for something so extreme, why can't you get support for the kind of reforms the chief of police wants to impose?

You need to write a book.

I agree with most of what you say but I want to focus on a couple of points.

Surveillance is just an effective tool for finding out the truth. It is partly why I am amused by the degree to which people hate surveillance. If you do not break any laws and have no intention to then the only thing surveillance will do is help prove your innocence.

You have this wrong. Everyone is innocent. If they are accused of a crime, investigated and charged it is the states responsibility to prove their guilt and until that happens they are still innocent.

There is no need for anyone to prove their innocence.

Ergo mass surveillance is unnecessary and a potential breach of people's freedom to just live their lives.

I'll get to the other points after.

 

[DesertRoo]

They are all Saxe Coburg Gotha. If any family actually runs the world it's them.

Not the rothchilds or rocker fellas, soros, the Saudis or whatever. They have their fingers in nearly every pie. Every European Royal family is related to that mob, a significant amount of the wealth in the world is held by that family. You know that old joke "The Aristocrats"...

I'm a little bit surprised people are surprised by the state of affairs right now. We've had forty years of post reality politics ... well culture actually. Is it any wonder nobody has a clue what to do or how to act any more? Plus mobs are like that. Human beings are irrational even at the best of times. Look at Richard Dawkins.

Right now, with things changing so quickly on so many fronts no one is acting sanely. Except the campaigners fleecing us all. But after decades of the denial of science for a variety of profit driven reasons (asbestos, fossil fuels, tobacco for example), of other aspects of reality for the same (privatisation of public assets and services for example). A lot of its to do with politics, especially the political wings of News Corp in Australia.

Ypu can only keep people in the dark and feed them bullshit for so long before they start acting like they are on mushrooms.

I guess you know your hyphenated name is a powerful one when a family disagreement is called a world war.

The church is the other big banking Corp who tried to wipe out the competition in the other one.