Play Nice Random Chat Thread IV

[Forever North]

Best thing is for the cops to leave a piece of good quality rope in the holding cell for this cretin.
A total waste of a human.

 

[Snake_Baker]

The inference is the photos were of the bodies.

Yes, and "inference" designed to elicit outrage.

Tabloid media falsely represents things to achieve this all the time. They are irresponsible.

 

[Snake_Baker]

They’re all running the story of him sharing photos with friends

Driver of Porsche involved in freeway crash identified as Melbourne mortgage broker

The driver of a black Porsche involved in the horrific Eastern Freeway crash that killed four police officers has been identified by multiple police sources as mortgage broker Richard Pusey.

www.theage.com.au

Okay, he has taken pictures, gave them to his mates and they have uploaded them to facebook?

Great mates if that's the case.

 

[gokangas]

Yes, and "inference" designed to elicit outrage.

Tabloid media falsely represents things to achieve this all the time. They are irresponsible.

Wasn't false.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Wasn't false.

Acknowledged, but I am sure that you recognise that tabloids utilise "allusion" all the time in order to present a false emotional interest and intensified viewing.

He'll be struggling to stay out of the nick considering he left the scene.

 

[Val Keating]

Okay, he has taken pictures, gave them to his mates and they have uploaded them to facebook?

Great mates if that's the case.

Or he showed his mates on Facebook and they gave him up. Either way, stupid move and shit mates

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Acknowledged.

He'll be struggling to stay out of the nick considering he left the scene.

Fail to render assistance has a maximum of 10 years.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Or he showed his mates on Facebook and they gave him up. Either way, stupid move and shit mates

You have to pick apart how they word stuff mate, and now they have mentioned his name they would be presenting this better for legal purposes.

I doubt Ashton would have missed the opportunity to name him directly for uploading them, but he didn't:

 

[Snake_Baker]

Fail to render assistance has a maximum of 10 years.

Yeah, it might be a reach charging him with that.

The suspect potentially has mitigating factors due to the shock of what happened, and in my opinion it's the implications of his state of mind that could be derived as callousness with regard to the photographs, which will have the bigger impact.

He'll be wanting a top shelf barrister.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Yeah, it might be a reach charging him with that.

The suspect potentially has mitigating factors due to the shock of what happened, and in my opinion it's the implications of his state of mind that could be derived as callousness with regard to the photographs, which will have the bigger impact.

He'll be wanting a top shelf barrister.

He’ll be able to afford one.

Robert Richter come on down.....

 

[Val Keating]

Yeah, it might be a reach charging him with that.

The suspect potentially has mitigating factors due to the shock of what happened, and in my opinion it's the implications of his state of mind that could be derived as callousness with regard to the photographs, which will have the bigger impact.

He'll be wanting a top shelf barrister.

You spoke about mob mentality earlier, well the court of public opinion has definitely got the crosshairs on him now. Really ****ed up with the photos. Everyone knows who he is right now and barely a word on the trucky.

 

[Snake_Baker]

My god this guy is a w***er


TripAdvisor reviews of anything from pubs to the Melbourne Airport Skybus.

'I like to drive behind the bus in my Porsche because it doesn't have wifi,' he wrote in a review of the Skybus in October 2018.

'I set the cruise control so as to allow me to social network and all that cool new age type stuff that's all the rage.

'Me and my Porsche enjoy the day out doing this activity.'

He's ultimately a product of consumer society. This is the lifestyle that is pumped out as "success" and this moron is going along with the script.

 

[Snake_Baker]

He’ll be able to afford one.

Robert Richter come on down.....

Getting one to take it on with be the difficult part.

I suspect a few of them will strangely have bookings when this clown goes up.

You spoke about mob mentality earlier, well the court of public opinion has definitely got the crosshairs on him now. Really f’ed up with the photos. Everyone knows who he is right now and barely a word on the trucky.

He's conducted himself about as stupidly as is humanly possible and made his head a trophy for politicians in the process.

This is the sort of thing that someone like Andrews milks for all the P.R. they can get.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Getting one to take it on with be the difficult part.

I suspect a few of them will strangely have bookings when this clown goes up.

There will be one who sees this as a career making opportunity.

 

[Snake_Baker]

There will be one who sees this as a career making opportunity.

Perhaps. He's entitled to a defence, and he will need a good one.

 

[Val Keating]

He's ultimately a product of consumer society. This is the lifestyle that is pumped out as "success" and this moron is going along with the script.

Reading that article just reminded of a bloke I knew that had a company getting people to use their super to buy property. Coke & an overinflated ego never ends well.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Reading that article just reminded of a bloke I knew that had a company getting people to use their super to buy property. Coke & an overinflated ego never ends well.

They get away with it by playing the typical person for schmucks and utilising a system that facilitates it.

Occasionally they do it to the wrong person and learn a harsh lesson.

Tradies get rorted like this all the time, and I don't know how they can put up with it. I can't stand people that do it.

 

[Val Keating]

They get away with it by playing the typical person for schmucks and utilising a system that facilitates it.

Occasionally they do it to the wrong person and learn a harsh lesson.

Tradies get rorted like this all the time, and I don't know how they can put up with it. I can't stand people that do it.

A lot of tradies don’t put up with it. Some do but the ones that don’t really don’t.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Perhaps. He's entitled to a defence, and he will need a good one.

True. But he's going to struggle to defend what he did.

Here are the offenses:

Speeding
Under the influence
Leaving the scene
Failing to render assistance

Here are the unpalatable bits that aren't necessarily crimes:

Taking photos of the scene
Sharing the photos
Being an obnoxious tosser thinking he can do what he wants because he's better than everyone else.

It's the first set that will put him away, but the second set that have most of the public against him.

 

[Snake_Baker]

A lot of tradies don’t put up with it. Some do but the ones that don’t really don’t.

I am well aware of that mate.

 

[DesertRoo]

True. But he's going to struggle to defend what he did.

Here are the offenses:

Speeding
Under the influence
Leaving the scene
Failing to render assistance

Here are the unpalatable bits that aren't necessarily crimes:

Taking photos of the scene
Sharing the photos
Being an obnoxious tosser thinking he can do what he wants because he's better than everyone else.

It's the first set that will put him away, but the second set that have most of the public against him.

Out of that lot, a good lawyer and all he gets is speeding.
His date with the brotherhood will be worse then what he cops with the courts.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Out of that lot, a good lawyer and all he gets is speeding.
His date with the brotherhood will be worse then what he cops with the courts.

You may be right. Or they might be successful in prosecuting one or more of the other charges.

He will certainly have an uncomfortable few years, at best, one way or another.

 

[Snake_Baker]

True. But he's going to struggle to defend what he did.

Here are the offenses:

Speeding
Under the influence
Leaving the scene
Failing to render assistance

Here are the unpalatable bits that aren't necessarily crimes:

Taking photos of the scene
Sharing the photos
Being an obnoxious tosser thinking he can do what he wants because he's better than everyone else.

It's the first set that will put him away, but the second set that have most of the public against him.

He's gone for the speeding and I suspect he failed a saliva test for drug use. He could have challenge the saliva test, and may have been in the process of doing that which is why other police arrived at the scene. I don't know.

AS for leaving the scene of the crime, it's reasonable to suspect he was shocked and bolted from the scene, but the photographs potentially show that he was in a calculating state of mind, so this is the factor that will need to be established. As for photos appearing on facebook, was he being an arsewipe about it, or did he give them to a mate in good faith to hold for legal defence purposes, and then they put them on facebook? Again, I don't know.

How this interpreted is all going to impact upon how leaving the scene of the crime is viewed and whether he was in a necessary frame of mind to adequately "fail to render assistance". I personally don't think the failure to render charge would get up. It is possible that he doesn't end up imprisoned.

I acknowledge that he is definitely the public villian in all of this, but IMO, the truck driver has bigger legal issues. If, as I suspect, the cops had set up the crime scene properly in the emergency lane whilst employing all the necessary safety protocols, then the truckie is up for 4 charges of manslaughter (reckless driving), and will be looking at 10+ years in jail.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

He's gone for the speeding and I suspect he failed a saliva test for drug use. He could have challenge the saliva test, and may have been in the process of doing that which is why other police arrived at the scene. I don't know.

AS for leaving the scene of the crime, it's reasonable to suspect he was shocked and bolted from the scene, but the photographs potentially show that he was in a calculating state of mind, so this is the factor that will need to be established. As for photos appearing on facebook, was he being an arsewipe about it, or did he give them to a mate in good faith to hold for legal defence purposes, and then they put them on facebook? Again, I don't know.

How this interpreted is all going to impact upon how leaving the scene of the crime is viewed and whether he was in a necessary frame of mind to adequately "fail to render assistance". I personally don't think the failure to render charge would get up. It is possible that he doesn't end up imprisoned.

I acknowledge that he is definitely the public villian in all of this, but IMO, the truck driver has bigger legal issues. If, as I suspect, the cops had set up the crime scene properly in the emergency lane whilst employing all the necessary safety protocols, then the truckie is up for 4 charges of manslaughter (reckless driving), and will be looking at 10+ years in jail.

Agree with all of that.

And frankly, the truckie deserves 10+ years.

 

[DesertRoo]

You may be right. Or they might be successful in prosecuting one or more of the other charges.

He will certainly have an uncomfortable few years, at best, one way or another.

They certainly don’t forget, it’ll be 20 years later, he’ll be staying at a small country town, number plate scan and just happen run into a member of the (ex-arm robbery squad). Probably piranha by then.