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[Val Keating]

Do you think anyone could have Coached Chris Scott's Cats Team to the Premiership in his first year?

I think Bomber Thompson’s crack smoking lady boy could’ve done it.

 

[koshari]

Jeezuz when it’s laid out like this it’s pretty hard to ignore

Firstly the AR is like the national rifle over there. And in many of those attacks multiple firearms were used. Fwiw iam not defending or condoning any of these actions just pointing out how culturally significant this particular firearm is. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna831171

 

[Val Keating]

Firstly the AR is like the national rifle over there. And in many of those attacks multiple firearms were used. Fwiw iam not defending or condoning any of these actions just pointing out how culturally significant this particular firearm is. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna831171

IMO There’s no decent argument for a citizen owning a machine gun. I spose they’ll just have to live with a random shooting as many people as possible because no governments going to be able to take their assault rifles off them.

Just as a side thought, it’s strange that all the mass shooters use the AR15 and the gangsters use AK with a modified clip

 

[Del191229]

Europe is facing an uncomfortable truth: Russia’s vaccine is highly effective

Vladimir Putin’s COVID-19 vaccine success has surprised with its efficacy. Now Russia's staunchest critics in Europe are swallowing their pride and considering the vaccine to bolster their own struggling supplies.

www.abc.net.au

Interesting one re politics and science.

Our govts smeared the Russian vaccine for purely political reasons

 

[Snake_Baker]

IMO There’s no decent argument for a citizen owning a machine gun.

The common law takes the view that everything is legal until the state decides otherwise, and not vice versa.

 

[koshari]

IMO There’s no decent argument for a citizen owning a machine gun. I spose they’ll just have to live with a random shooting as many people as possible because no governments going to be able to take their assault rifles off them.

Just as a side thought, it’s strange that all the mass shooters use the AR15 and the gangsters use AK with a modified clip

The AR ismt a machine gun (assuming you mean fully auto by machine gun) . The m16 is the fully auto version. Most of the controversy is that an ar can be fitted with a bump slide stock. Also a bolt action 30.06 can be more devistating at a distance than an AR. Having said that the AR can be rechambered for a larger calibre.

But i agree there is little judtification for other than tactical scenarios for more than a bolt. Ferel pig shooters have argued that at least semi autos are safer for putting down these animals.

Personality i cant beleive the blanket ban on supressors in Au. Would go a long way to preserving the hearing of shooters. Also stops stock being upset.

 

[Snake_Baker]

The woke destruction of academia marches onward.

 

[Val Keating]

The common law takes the view that everything is legal until the state decides otherwise, and not vice versa.

Fair enough. It doesn’t matter anyway. There’s too many lunatics over there with machine guns that would literally fight to keep them. The technology’s only going to get better and more efficient killing machines will be made and people will buy them. I just wonder at what point they say enough? The second amendment is all about defending from a tyrannical government but that argument falls down when the government’s always going to have things like tanks, planes and better guns etc. Anyway, I’m just glad our guns were taken away after the Port Arthur massacre.

 

[Val Keating]

The AR ismt a machine gun (assuming you mean fully auto by machine gun) . The m16 is the fully auto version. Most of the controversy is that an ar can be fitted with a bump slide stock.

I don’t know much about guns. It just looks like a machine gun, but I spose we can just call it an assault rifle if we’re being correct.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Fair enough. It doesn’t matter anyway. There’s too many lunatics over there with machine guns that would literally fight to keep them.

You are referring to how many people over how many years in a population of how many people?

It's trivial.

The U.S. murders more innocent people in an average day when they aren't even at war with them.

 

[Themanbun]

Europe is facing an uncomfortable truth: Russia’s vaccine is highly effective

Vladimir Putin’s COVID-19 vaccine success has surprised with its efficacy. Now Russia's staunchest critics in Europe are swallowing their pride and considering the vaccine to bolster their own struggling supplies.

www.abc.net.au

Interesting one re politics and science.

Our govts smeared the Russian vaccine for purely political reasons

Same thing happened at the start with Chinese learnings on how to treat, control, the nature of the disease, etc. It was politicised and the Western world lost a good few months that the Chinese scientists gave them a head start with.

 

[Val Keating]

You are referring to how many people over how many years in a population of how many people?

It's trivial.

The U.S. murders more innocent people in an average day when they aren't even at war with them.

What do you mean?

 

[Snake_Baker]

What do you mean?

It's not a big deal in the big scheme of things.

It's the sort of thing that fortunate idle white people indulge themselves with.

 

[Del191229]

Same thing happened at the start with Chinese learnings on how to treat, control, the nature of the disease, etc. It was politicised and the Western world lost a good few months that the Chinese scientists gave them a head start with.

Yep, exactly. Idiot right wing governments pretending we could "live with the virus".

 

[Val Keating]

It's not a big deal in the big scheme of things.

It's the sort of thing that fortunate idle white people indulge themselves with.

I meant your other point.

“The U.S. murders more innocent people in an average day when they aren't even at war with them.”

 

[koshari]

Fair enough. It doesn’t matter anyway. There’s too many lunatics over there with machine guns that would literally fight to keep them. The technology’s only going to get better and more efficient killing machines will be made and people will buy them. I just wonder at what point they say enough? The second amendment is all about defending from a tyrannical government but that argument falls down when the government’s always going to have things like tanks, planes and better guns etc. Anyway, I’m just glad our guns were taken away after the Port Arthur massacre.

Well in fact it does matter, quite a lot. its the technical differences between models that make legislating against certain variaces such a nightmare. Which is why i mentioned the bump slide stock example. An ar with bump stock legal, m16/ak47 not but all can be configured to fire fully automatically.

 

[DesertRoo]

Arizona GOP Chair Urged Violence at the Capitol. The Mercers Spent $1.5 Million Supporting Her.

The billionaire Republican megadonors have funded numerous organizations now peddling baseless claims about the election.

theintercept.com

Somebody gets it.. follow the money.

“You can’t have the mass radicalization that we’ve seen without extraordinarily wealthy people funneling money in,” said Michael Edison Hayden, a spokesperson for the Southern Poverty Law Center.

 

[koshari]

Arizona GOP Chair Urged Violence at the Capitol. The Mercers Spent $1.5 Million Supporting Her.

The billionaire Republican megadonors have funded numerous organizations now peddling baseless claims about the election.

theintercept.com

Somebody gets it.. follow the money.

“You can’t have the mass radicalization that we’ve seen without extraordinarily wealthy people funneling money in,” said Michael Edison Hayden, a spokesperson for the Southern Poverty Law Center.

same principle is why pollies in this country dont want transparent political donations.

 

[Del191229]

Well in fact it does matter, quite a lot. its the technical differences between models that make legislating against certain variaces such a nightmare. Which is why i mentioned the bump slide stock example. An ar with bump stock legal, m16/ak47 not but all can be configured to fire fully automatically.

Mate, even firing semi auto an AR15 is a weapon of war designed to do horrendous damage to human bodies.

Really doesn't matter if it is semi auto or full auto when someone is shooting up a primary school like at Sandy Hook.

 

[koshari]

Mate, even firing semi auto an AR15 is a weapon of war designed to do horrendous damage to human bodies.

Really doesn't matter if it is semi auto or full auto when someone is shooting up a primary school like at Sandy Hook.

Agreed mate, that wasnt my point,

Having personally having fired an ak47 on fully auto mode it really just serves as cover fire and with the muzzle riding up continuously your fighting it with every shot all the time wasting rounds. on the other hand skilled mark with a rifle on semi auto would surely be able to hit more targets at intermediate range than on auto so the argument is sort of moot.

likewise in close confines there is no substitute to a pistol ( or 2). of course here pistols are already very well regulated compared to long arms.

so again it comes back to the laws and people perception of what category firearms pose the greatest risk to the public. and like most fields the laws often dont always meet the reality.

And with regard to the round, the hollow point hunting rounds are also designed to inflict maximum damage to the target and is the reason why full metal jackets are an outcome of the Hague convention

 

[Del191229]

Arizona GOP Chair Urged Violence at the Capitol. The Mercers Spent $1.5 Million Supporting Her.

The billionaire Republican megadonors have funded numerous organizations now peddling baseless claims about the election.

theintercept.com

Somebody gets it.. follow the money.

“You can’t have the mass radicalization that we’ve seen without extraordinarily wealthy people funneling money in,” said Michael Edison Hayden, a spokesperson for the Southern Poverty Law Center.

This has been happening for decades via Koch.

 

[DesertRoo]

This has been happening for decades via Koch.

The moment you hear a protest with every second person carrying a sign is a massive red flag. Crowds are kind of like the football, how many people are willing to go to a protest, its a massive difference to someone spending the time to write on a piece of cardboard and bringing it in. But they’ll be happy to hold it up if someone gave it to them. All of that costs $$$

if you ever want to cause some mischief, get to a protest early and start filming and interviewing the people handing out the signs.

 

[Snake_Baker]

The moment you hear a protest with every second person carrying a sign is a massive red flag. Crowds are kind of like the football, how many people are willing to go to a protest, its a massive difference to someone spending the time to write on a piece of cardboard and bringing it in. But they’ll be happy to hold it up if someone gave it to them. All of that costs $$$

if you ever want to cause some mischief, get to a protest early and start filming and interviewing the people handing out the signs.

Forget protests, I have heard that letter writing alone is interpreted as 1000 votes at the ballot box.

If only more folks were aware of the power of a small committed group of lobbyists.

 

[krakouers]

Thoughts are with the people in NSW & QLD, hope our brethren are keeping safe & dry

 

[Snake_Baker]

Thoughts are with the people in NSW, hope our brethren are keeping safe & dry

...............and free of critters.