Play Nice Random Chat Thread V

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Sigh.

 

[Snake_Baker]

How do you justify the quintessential definition of white privilege, cokehead Hunter Biden gaining a board position at a foreign own company?
He has had no experience in a similar position, can’t even speak a slavic language.
Come on...
are you claiming that nepotism is ok because of plausible deniability?

He's not going to understand you if you don't get with the established cliches.

The good guys & bad guys have already been scripted, and good & evil are not in question.

 

[Hojuman]

Sigh.

You got mates over there S.D.S. ?

Got mates in San Diego & Austin. One in healthcare the other education. Both staying the course a.t.m. as married to citizens.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

How do you justify the quintessential definition of white privilege cokehead Hunter Biden gaining a board position at a foreign own company?
He has had no experience, can’t even speak a slavic language.
Come on.. are you claiming that nepotism is ok because of plausible deniability?

If Glenn wants to go the route of the Guiliani laptop thing, he can. He'll be aggregated by Murdoch and the Daily Mail, not sure it will help his longevity as a truth teller.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

He's not going to understand you if you don't get with the established cliches.

The good guys & bad guys have already been scripted, and good & evil are not in question.

**** off you snivelling campaigner.

 

[koshari]

We evolved to be religious.

People who don't like religion obviously don't believe in evolution.

Iam not even sure its an issue of if you like or don't like religion, I accept that most of the followers of faith based religions i know are pretty normal, most of the devout friends of mine come from families with strong religious backgrounds and for them there are traditions they likely feel they expected to abide by? They are definitely not fitting of being described as being "Deranged".

I also suspect that people who have bad intentions find it easy to try to justify their actions in a religious context. And why wouldn't they, the whole foundation of religions is based on non provable theories so others cannot Debunk what they say.

Do I like religion? I definitely find it an interesting topic. I guess you could say I am more interested in theology rather than any particular religion itself, As far as blind faith goes however i don't really think its a great practice given the probability that any person in a particular secular group doesn't necessarily have the interests of the parishioners at heart.

 

[DesertRoo]

NSA: We've learned our lesson after foreign spies used one of our crypto backdoors – but we can't say how exactly

Senator Wyden puts surveillance nerve-center on blast

www.theregister.com

NSA has learnt its lessons about installing backdoors into equipment..

Over to you Scotty from Marketing..
time to repeal your ill thought out, dangerous laws.

Strong and responsible: can encryption be both?

When introducing the Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment (Assistance and Access) Bill 2018 (the Bill), Minister for Home Affairs, Peter Dutton, stated ‘New communications technology, including encryption, is eroding the capacity of Australia's law enforceme

www.aph.gov.au

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

You got mates over there S.D.S. ?

Got mates in San Diego & Austin. One in healthcare the other education. Both staying the course a.t.m. as married to citizens.

Got one, and they're pretty pessimistic about how things will end up. It's really shit.

 

[DesertRoo]

If Glenn wants to go the route of the Guiliani laptop thing, he can. He'll be aggregated by Murdoch and the Daily Mail, not sure it will help his longevity as a truth teller.

So the old journalists reporting about evidence and let readers decide what they find convincing, not force everyone to adhere to a top-down editorial line is now dead....

what you’re referring too is called propaganda not journalism.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

So the old journalists reporting about evidence and let readers decide what they find convincing, not force everyone to adhere to a top-down editorial line is now dead....

what you’re referring too is called propaganda not journalism.

No, having editors is a pretty core part of the journalistic process. The extent to which editors can influence a piece varies from outlet to outlet.

He wants to be a pamphleteer, or a blogger. He should, he's really good. But he's been looking for this for a while.

 

[Snake_Baker]

So the old journalists reporting about evidence and let readers decide what they find convincing, not force everyone to adhere to a top-down editorial line is now dead....

what you’re referring too is called propaganda not journalism.

Murdoch is the only propagandist who should concern you.

Apparently.

 

[DesertRoo]

No, having editors is a pretty core part of the journalistic process. The extent to which editors can influence a piece varies from outlet to outlet.

He wants to be a pamphleteer, or a blogger. He should, he's really good. But he's been looking for this for a while.

So having editors who’ve sided with power, in a now proven false narrative.. have doubled down, repeating falsehoods, rather then correct the misinformation, siding again with that same power, is perfectly acceptable behaviour?

you’re better then this..

Rather than attack the people who called bullshit, ask why the journalists who became sock puppets are still employed..

 

[Snake_Baker]

So having editors who’ve sided with power, in a now proven false narrative.. have doubled down, repeating falsehoods, rather then correct the misinformation, siding again with that same power, is perfectly acceptable behaviour?

you’re better then this..

Rather than attack the people who called bullshit, ask why the journalists who became sock puppets are still employed..

The politics of irrational compromise.

This is what happens when you pick sides instead of declaring the truth, that none of them are worthy.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

So having editors who’ve sided with power, in a now proven false narrative.. have doubled down, repeating falsehoods, rather then correct the misinformation, siding again with that same power, is perfectly acceptable behaviour?

you’re better then this..

Rather than attack the people who called bullshit, ask why the journalists who became sock puppets are still employed..

If he wants to go with the Giuliani was given a laptop that had all Hunter Biden's shit on it, he can do it on substack. The editors have made a very reasonable choice that it is complete bullshit.

 

[ferball]

Iam not even sure its an issue of if you like or don't like religion, I accept that most of the followers of faith based religions i know are pretty normal, most of the devout friends of mine come from families with strong religious backgrounds and for them there are traditions they likely feel they expected to abide by? They are definitely not fitting of being described as being "Deranged".

I also suspect that people who have bad intentions find it easy to try to justify their actions in a religious context. And why wouldn't they, the whole foundation of religions is based on non provable theories so others cannot Debunk what they say.

Do I like religion? I definitely find it an interesting topic. I guess you could say I am more interested in theology rather than any particular religion itself, As far as blind faith goes however i don't really think its a great practice given the probability that any person in a particular secular group doesn't necessarily have the interests of the parishioners at heart.

I reckon I have very similar views.

I didn't mean anything by my comment other than to start an interesting (hopefully) discussion about religion. It definitely has an evolutionary role IMO regardless or the truth or otherwise of spagbol cuthulu (aka the Flying Spaghetti Monster) or anything else.

Its influence on our society is remarkable. The USA wouldn't exist without the puritans. It was religious people in the UK who drove the abolitionist movement and ended institutionalised slavery (for a little while at least). 200 years ago the idea that you didn't frame the world in religious terms was outrageous in the West and it still is in lots of places across the planet.

We use rituals as a form of group bonding. Elephants bury their dead. They do the same thing! I doubt they are there singing songs to Jesus or even Elephantitus Jesus about it.

And a big part of why it doesn't go away is that people have experiences all the time that have significant meaning to them. Experiences they say can't be explained away by "science". (Tho they may find there are times they can be but that is another part of the discussion as well because there are definitely times these experiences can't be. Maybe in future when we understand more about consciousness, the world and reality they will be.)

This is why it's so easy to use religion to manipulate people too. Because if you give lip service to the things that give people meaning, by bringing them inside your tent so to speak, the you've got them in a way rational, reasoned discussion can never manage. And you've probably got them for life.

Re your last sentence tho ... I find religion gives people who would otherwise be shitheads an opportunity to do something for other people. To be selfless and act in the interests of their parishioners not necessarily themselves. Before COVID there was a project in Sunbury where all of the Christian denominations except the Family/exclusive brethren opened their church doors to the homeless in the town and fed them, gave them access to hygiene and somewhere to sleep over winter.

It's not all altruism, obviously other social factors come into play, like generating status, achieving power and recognition in a group and what have you, but the outcome is good. And there are people who do this shit from a genuine place as well.

If Jesus were real (and for all I know he might be, he is certainly seems real enough to shitloads of people) he'd probably say that it doesn't matter what people's motivations are here cos they are creating something good out of the base side of their nature. Maybe.. I dunno.

 

[ferball]

No, having editors is a pretty core part of the journalistic process. The extent to which editors can influence a piece varies from outlet to outlet.

He wants to be a pamphleteer, or a blogger. He should, he's really good. But he's been looking for this for a while.

Pamphleteers or bloggers are truly independent.

 

[ferball]

NSA: We've learned our lesson after foreign spies used one of our crypto backdoors – but we can't say how exactly

Senator Wyden puts surveillance nerve-center on blast

www.theregister.com

NSA has learnt its lessons about installing backdoors into equipment..

Over to you Scotty from Marketing..
time to repeal your ill thought out, dangerous laws.

Strong and responsible: can encryption be both?

When introducing the Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment (Assistance and Access) Bill 2018 (the Bill), Minister for Home Affairs, Peter Dutton, stated ‘New communications technology, including encryption, is eroding the capacity of Australia's law enforceme

www.aph.gov.au

Yeah I'm not holding my breath for that to happen...

 

[ferball]

If he wants to go with the Giuliani was given a laptop that had all Hunter Biden's sh*t on it, he can do it on substack. The editors have made a very reasonable choice that it is complete bullshit.

How do you know this?

The USA might not even exist. Have you ever been there? Did you fly? How do you know you just didn't fly around in humongous circles for hours and land in a different part of Australia.

An Australia that is perfectly square in shape and is actually in the northern hemisphere.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Pamphleteers or bloggers are truly independent.

Absolutely. But the Tim Pools of the world show that they are just as likely to be as wrong as establishment media.

And plenty of bloggers just basically repackage existing media.

 

[DesertRoo]

If he wants to go with the Giuliani was given a laptop that had all Hunter Biden's sh*t on it, he can do it on substack. The editors have made a very reasonable choice that it is complete bullshit.

Funny no one is arguing it’s authenticity apart from you..

The question has always been, whether to report on them or not, considering Hilarys last run and the precedent it’s setting, by having an informed public....

the only people who want a stop an informed public, are frankly corrupt campaigners.

it’s not newsCorp or not, or msnbc or not, it’s about right to information or not. so yeah pick a side..

 

[ferball]

Absolutely. But the Tim Pools of the world show that they are just as likely to be as wrong as establishment media.

And plenty of bloggers just basically repackage existing media.

That is all true, but that brings it back onto us in terms of critical thinking and analysis of what we are being fed.

Blogging and pamphleteering provide a better opportunity to create independent journalism than mainstream media organisations.

Look at the ****en Guardian and what it's reporters did to Assange years ago and their silence on his extradition hearing, where lies the Guardian spread via Harding are being used as evidence and people who can directly refute them are not allowed to challenge that evidence, even from the witness stand. The subtext of Assanges trial is that journalism that challenges the state is espionage.

That was happening in the last month and what did we hear. Nothing.

People like Craig Murray are actually providing better coverage of that trial via their blogging platforms.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Funny no one is arguing it’s authenticity apart from you..

The question has always been, whether to report on them or not, considering Hilarys last run and the precedent it’s setting, by having an informed public....

the only people who want a stop an informed public, are frankly corrupt campaigners.

it’s not newsCorp or not, or msnbc or not, it’s about right to information or not. so yeah pick a side..

Who has said it’s authentic?


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[LuvtheKangas]

Funny no one is arguing it’s authenticity apart from you..

The question has always been, whether to report on them or not, considering Hilarys last run and the precedent it’s setting, by having an informed public....

the only people who want a stop an informed public, are frankly corrupt campaigners.

it’s not newsCorp or not, or msnbc or not, it’s about right to information or not. so yeah pick a side..

I think you'll find plenty are arguing the authenticity of the Hunter Biden laptop 'find'. Even Tucker Carlson has backed down.

No-one is denying the nepotism or corruption on both sides of the political fence. They're all in the swamp together. It's just that in █████'s case, engaging in it is all consuming.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

That is all true, but that brings it back onto us in terms of critical thinking and analysis of what we are being fed.

Blogging and pamphleteering provide a better opportunity to create independent journalism than mainstream media organisations.

Look at the fu**en Guardian and what it's reporters did to Assange years ago and their silence on his extradition hearing, where lies the Guardian spread via Harding are being used as evidence and people who can directly refute them are not allowed to challenge that evidence, even from the witness stand. The subtext of Assanges trial is that journalism that challenges the state is espionage.

That was happening in the last month and what did we hear. Nothing.

People like Craig Murray are actually providing better coverage of that trial via their blogging platforms.

Yep 100% agree.

 

[ferball]

Yep 100% agree.

My comment before about Australia being square isn't meant to be serious but to illustrate what we take for granted, what we trust and what we don't trust in terms of our picture of the world. We all depend on other people to shape that picture and have since we were hairier, less domesticated primates than we are now.