Play Nice Random Chat Thread V

[ferball]

It's not some short sighted worldview thing when you're the minority and this topic isn't remotely comparable to slavery.

What's next.....''Hey meat eaters....are you in favour of the holocaust''?

Except that isn't what he said is it. Slavery is obviously an abhorrent thing and (with perhaps one or two exceptions) no one on this board would condone it. But once upon a time people opposing slavery were a minority and were considered religious whackjobs. As david Icke said: Tomorrow's mighty oak tree is just today's nut that stood their ground.

 

[ferball]

Eating meat is like slavery! Lmao, great rhetoric there, genius.

That isn't what he said and the only reason you'd interpret it like that is if you were looking to start an argument or be a dickhead.

 

[Snake_Baker]

That isn't what he said and the only reason you'd interpret it like that is if you were looking to start an argument or be a dickhead.

It's a ridiculous correlation and only a dickhead would defend it.

 

[Heaps of fun]

That isn't what he said and the only reason you'd interpret it like that is if you were looking to start an argument or be a dickhead.

Yeah, I'm the dickhead.

 

[DesertRoo]

Rather then pushing a moral question into the individual when 70% of the world pollution comes from a couple of nation states, China, India, Russia and the US.
A far more effective measure would be boycott, divestment and sanctions movement against the largest polluters.

I wonder how far the movement will get?

 

[ferball]

Yeah, I'm the dickhead.

I'm not sure if you were responding to a stupid comment or making one now I've seen what other posters have said.

StiffArm didn't say eating meat was like slavery but at the first opportunity people chose to take it that way. **** all good faith in this discussion from what I can see.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Rather then pushing a moral question into the individual when 70% of the world pollution comes from a couple of nation states, China, India, Russia and the US.
A far more effective measure would be boycott, divestment and sanctions movement against the largest polluters.

I wonder how far the movement will get?

How will I tweet my virtuousness to the world without an iphone?

 

[Snake_Baker]

Since when did ferball become the moral and intellectual barometer of this place?

 

[Heaps of fun]

I'm not sure if you were responding to a stupid comment or making one now I've seen what other posters have said.

StiffArm didn't say eating meat was like slavery but at the first opportunity people chose to take it that way. fu** all good faith in this discussion from what I can see.

Nothing but "good faith" in introducing slavery to the veganism topic. That's definitely not a cheap emotional ploy.

 

[Ry009]

What are people's thoughts on the Belt and Road agreement with the state government?

Curious as to where people draw the line in their beliefs, when it appears jobs and the economy these should be held above all else.

 

[Snake_Baker]

What are people's thoughts on the Belt and Road agreement with the state government?

Curious as to where people draw the line in their beliefs, when it appears jobs and the economy these should be held above all else.

I'm particularly interested in the environmentalists view about this.

 

[ferball]

Nothing but "good faith" in introducing slavery to the veganism topic. That's definitely not a cheap emotional ploy.

Or its something that seems obvious now but was as controversial and emotional back then.

 

[ferball]

What are people's thoughts on the Belt and Road agreement with the state government?

Curious as to where people draw the line in their beliefs, when it appears jobs and the economy these should be held above all else.

What does it entail?

And should we be doing business with a country that cuts people up for spare parts?

 

[Heaps of fun]

Or its something that seems obvious now but was as controversial and emotional back then.

Slavery is still considered emotional and controversial. That's the point, you could choose something that is considered politically and emotionally inert today but that wouldn't have the same ability to affect the easily persuaded.

Also, there's more people enslaved today than there ever was which augurs well for the utopic maladaptive daydreaming of the "we could end animal slavery and solve climate change if we all went vegan" crowd.

 

[DesertRoo]

What are people's thoughts on the Belt and Road agreement with the state government?

Curious as to where people draw the line in their beliefs, when it appears jobs and the economy these should be held above all else.

for a secretive agreement do we trust the same group who organised the
below?? my initial response would be they are way out of their depth in any negotiations with China.

State government road debacle leaves project stalled, contractors owed millions

The Andrews government's $1.8 billion Western Roads Upgrade has stalled after a key subcontractor walked off the job with just $920 remaining in its accounts, leaving other subcontractors millions of dollars out of pocket.

www.theage.com.au

 

[goalieboy82]

Coach Emeritus Scamper from last year at this time:

was in a fight with some animal (he won i think)
and from today:

 

[Snake_Baker]

Based upon that rationalization

Slavery is still considered emotional and controversial. That's the point, you could choose something that is considered politically and emotionally inert today but that wouldn't have the same ability to affect the easily persuaded.

Also, there's more people enslaved today than there ever was which augurs well for the utopic maladaptive daydreaming of the "we could end animal slavery and solve climate change if we all went vegan" crowd.

Slavery is a poor correlation because it is trivialized in comparison to health and environmental topics.

It's a human phenomena, not an animal one, except for the disingenuous animal rights loonies that shoehorn it in to the debate.

 

[goalieboy82]

 

[Ry009]

What does it entail?

And should we be doing business with a country that cuts people up for spare parts?

for a secretive agreement do we trust the same group who organised
below?? my initial response would be they are way out of their depth in any negotiations with China.

State government road debacle leaves project stalled, contractors owed millions

The Andrews government's $1.8 billion Western Roads Upgrade has stalled after a key subcontractor walked off the job with just $920 remaining in its accounts, leaving other subcontractors millions of dollars out of pocket.

www.theage.com.au

Totally agree, I just get confused when people point to the economy above all else on various subjects.

 

[Tas]

Bring back cannibalism. :stern look

 

[Snake_Baker]

Totally agree, I just get confused when people point to the economy above all else on various subjects.

The "economy" is one of the finest lies ever invented by politicians.

 

[Ry009]

Bring back cannibalism. :stern look

Could go for some Soylent Green right about now.

 

[Dan]

Red meat....the taste of slavery :stern look

 

[Ry009]

The "economy" is one of the finest lies ever invented by politicians.

You might have misinterpreted me, (and you might have a crack at me, and that's fine) but people (not in this board, in general) pick and choose when the economy is important. COVID restrictions and veganism as recent examples.

I think people conflate being overly preachy with the actual belief with someone, and the topic gets lost, waste of energy IMO.

Someone isn't a vegan preachy campaigner, they're just a preachy campaigner.

Personally I would like to transition to being a vego providing my diet allows for it. If people remain meat eaters, I have no ill will towards them.

Few posters here getting their noses out of joint when there's been reasonable discussion. Surely people can rise above pre-conceived bias.

If people let others cloud their opinions on certain subjects, then they need to develop a bit more resilience.

That being said, it's pretty easy to spot people that are contrarians out of boredom or attention.

 

[Sopwiths North]

Some of my favourite vegetarian preachy campaigners:


"Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."

"I am a stronger follower of Veganism by principle, not just because of moral and aesthetic reasons. I truly believe in a Vegetarian lifestyle and I have faith and hopes in change in human destiny, thanks to the physical effects and benefits of a healthier diet and its influence on the character of the people. It will bring about some benefit and improvement to human society."

"It is my view that the vegetarian manner of living, by its purely physical effect on the human temperament, would most beneficially influence the lot of mankind."

Albert Einstein



“To be a vegetarian is to disagree - to disagree with the course of things today... starvation, cruelty - we must make a statement against these things. Vegetarianism is my statement. And I think it's a strong one.”

“As often as Herman had witnessed the slaughter of animals and fish, he always had the same thought: in their behaviour towards creatures, all men were Nazis. The smugness with which man could do with other species as he pleased exemplified the most extreme racist theories, the principle that might is right.”

“As long as people will shed the blood of innocent creatures there can be no peace, no liberty, no harmony between people. Slaughter and justice cannot dwell together.”

Isaac Bashevis Singer



"The more helpless the creature, the more that it is entitled to protection by man from the cruelty of man."

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."


Mahatma Gandhi



I feel like there's still people in this world who would chuck rocks at Gandhi.