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[Merlin007]

we would need a university like Oxford to develop such vaccines, Monash is a leader in their fields but these kind of things are very specialised.

we had such an organisation - it was called the Commonwealth Serum Laboratories, then it was privatised, and before Christmas, couldn't produce an effective vaccine, leaving us with licence production of overseas vaccines

 

[Del191229]

I’ll probably regret sharing this but, Benzodiazepines are a motherf***er. They give you your life back but tolerance builds quickly and before you know it it takes 3X the dose you needed at the start. I’ve had my battles with them myself. Not long ago I went cold turkey off 4mg ~ 6mg per day (I started on .5mg when first started, apparently I have a high tolerance) of alprazolam because my script ran out early, my psychiatrist refused to give me another script early. I lasted about 3 weeks thinking it was going to get better then I just couldn’t take it. It was late on a Sunday night and I honestly couldn’t keep it in anymore...my wife picked up that something was going on because of the way I was acting. I was struggling. Fearing the seizures that can get people who go cold turkey off Xanax. My legs and arms were numb...it was f’ed. I took something to knock me out (one of the many meds I’ve been subscribed that didn’t work but knew it would put me to sleep).

Went to the GP in the morning and they gave me something to get me through. I’m all good now but I’m back where I started before taking benzos, which is hard when I’m trying to run a business.

I guess what I’m trying to say is benzos are great for giving your life back but it’s kind of like you pay for it on the backend. All the anxiety, panic attacks etc that the benzos take away come back with a vengeance when you stop.

I’ve tried do many different treatments over the years but they’re the only thing that let me live a normal life. I’ll keep searching for a better option but I feel like I’m running out of options.

Good on you for being honest bro.

You're right in that benzos are a mother****er. Had a few laps round that circuit myself.

They certainly have a real and useful medical purpose, but you just can't keep taking them indefinitely.

My point is Petersen used to preach all this tough love make your bed every day kids today are so soft crap, but when push came to shove in his own life, he went for the "easy but understandable" option of just getting hammered instead.

And now he's back running the same scam.

Petersen is a grifter and anyone buying his schtick at this stage is a mark.

 

[Val Keating]

Thanks for sharing Val. I don't have the need to take medications thankfully but I am exposed to the terrible dance on a daily basis one has to undertake when managing the use of potent medications when dealing mental and physical health challenges and completely sympathise with the issues of tolerance and withdrawals, and the impact that this can have on simply functioning on a daily basis. Kudos to you for being so open about it as I know it can be something that sufferers can hide away completely.

One avenue that I am keen to explore is the use of psylocibin at a micro dose level. I have a friend who suffers from depression and anxiety and is quite OCD in some ways. He is also a highly intelligent and highly functional individual. When things got too much for him to manage on a day to day basis he went onto SSRI's which did not agree with him at all. They dulled him down and took away his creative spark and desire to interact with the world in a meaningful way. He tried exercise and diet changes, which helped, but the anxiety would not go away. In the last few years he started growing his own mushrooms and has been micro dosing on a regular basis, which apparently has had a significant positive effect on his well being. Far be it from me to recommend given that a) it is illegal, and b) I am in now way qualified to prescribe such an approach, it but I am curious if it is something that you have considered at all?

psylocibin is something I’ve heard a lot about the positive effects it has and even the potential to heal brain injuries. I don’t have much hope in getting that treatment in Australia though, we’re way to conservative with that sort of thing.

Exercise is always good and should be part of the plan. The weird thing is that I was really into fitness and diet but it still got me. I was training 6 days a week, often twice a day and on the tools as a carpenter so I was pretty fit.

I was doing some EMDR before covid shut that down, needs to be face to face. That was promising. I’ve got some sessions coming up actually.

Lol, I even rang a medical research clinic a while back and told them I’d be willing to be a guinea pig for them. They told me it doesn’t work like that and hung up.

I canned my old Psychiatrist after they left me high and dry after what happened, I’m pretty grounded and would never hurt myself but the lack of care really made me lose trust. If I was someone at the end of my tether without a family who knows.

 

[Val Keating]

Good on you for being honest bro.

You're right in that benzos are a motherf***er. Had a few laps round that circuit myself.

They certainly have a real and useful medical purpose, but you just can't keep taking them indefinitely.

My point is Petersen used to preach all this tough love make your bed every day kids today are so soft crap, but when push came to shove in his own life, he went for the "easy but understandable" option of just getting hammered instead.

And now he's back running the same scam.

Petersen is a grifter and anyone buying his schtick at this stage is a mark.

He’s never really been in my orbit. Just a name that I’d hear from time to time because of something he’d said.

 

[Tas]

we had such an organisation - it was called the Commonwealth Serum Laboratories, then it was privatised, and before Christmas, couldn't produce an effective vaccine, leaving us with licence production of overseas vaccines

They made the first swine flu vaccine so I think they are competent, they do not have the same resources, there was a lot of collaborative work when it came to the dna based vaccines so the bigger/better funded institutions were always going to get to the finish line first. I don't care if we are not first, as long as we can produce low cost safe vaccines and medicine.

I think the only negative with privatising CSL is that there is nothing stopping the company acting like American and European versions who will just charge a fortune and make billions of dollars profit because they can. I am all for medicine and vaccine companies not losing money, but I think the heavily profit on the misery of people is immoral. If it was government funded, it could limit profit margin on sales so the investment was both worthwhile and providing a worthwhile service and could lead to greater humanitarian help by providing medicine and vaccines to third world countries as a significant part of our foreign aid, rather than just give countries wads of cash.

 

[Del191229]

They should create a viable environment for vaccine production in Australia anyway.

We outsource far too many crucial industries.

"They" are doing that.

A new high-tech vaccine manufacturing facility will soon be developed in Melbourne to help secure Australia’s long-term supply of critical health products, including pandemic influenza vaccines and life-saving antivenoms.

Influenza vaccine manufacturing facility coming to Melbourne

A new high-tech vaccine manufacturing facility will soon be developed in Melbourne to help secure Australia's long-term supply of critical health products.

www.labonline.com.au

Only made possible by government I might add:

Health Minister Greg Hunt said Seqirus will invest $800 million in the development of the facility, with ongoing capital investment over the coming years. The Victorian Government has also supported the procurement of suitable land for Seqirus, with the project set to secure more than 1000 local jobs, generate export contracts and ensure continuing support for hundreds of organisations estimated to be worth $300 million to the local supply chain, helping to boost the state’s economic recovery.

 

[Themanbun]

I’ll probably regret sharing this but, Benzodiazepines are a motherf***er. They give you your life back but tolerance builds quickly and before you know it it takes 3X the dose you needed at the start. I’ve had my battles with them myself. Not long ago I went cold turkey off 4mg ~ 6mg per day (I started on .5mg when first started, apparently I have a high tolerance) of alprazolam because my script ran out early, my psychiatrist refused to give me another script early. I lasted about 3 weeks thinking it was going to get better then I just couldn’t take it. It was late on a Sunday night and I honestly couldn’t keep it in anymore...my wife picked up that something was going on because of the way I was acting. I was struggling. Fearing the seizures that can get people who go cold turkey off Xanax. My legs and arms were numb...it was f’ed. I took something to knock me out (one of the many meds I’ve been subscribed that didn’t work but knew it would put me to sleep).

Went to the GP in the morning and they gave me something to get me through. I’m all good now but I’m back where I started before taking benzos, which is hard when I’m trying to run a business.

I guess what I’m trying to say is benzos are great for giving your life back but it’s kind of like you pay for it on the backend. All the anxiety, panic attacks etc that the benzos take away come back with a vengeance when you stop.

I’ve tried do many different treatments over the years but they’re the only thing that let me live a normal life. I’ll keep searching for a better option but I feel like I’m running out of options.

Mate it takes genuine balls to talk about this stuff. Good on you for being honest. These battles are often lifelong but admitting it's a battle is often the hardest part. God bless you and, of course, if you need any help I'm sure we'll be lining up here to help you out.

 

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[koshari]

I’ll probably regret sharing this but, Benzodiazepines are a motherf***er. They give you your life back but tolerance builds quickly and before you know it it takes 3X the dose you needed at the start. I’ve had my battles with them myself. Not long ago I went cold turkey off 4mg ~ 6mg per day (I started on .5mg when first started, apparently I have a high tolerance) of alprazolam because my script ran out early, my psychiatrist refused to give me another script early. I lasted about 3 weeks thinking it was going to get better then I just couldn’t take it. It was late on a Sunday night and I honestly couldn’t keep it in anymore...my wife picked up that something was going on because of the way I was acting. I was struggling. Fearing the seizures that can get people who go cold turkey off Xanax. My legs and arms were numb...it was f’ed. I took something to knock me out (one of the many meds I’ve been subscribed that didn’t work but knew it would put me to sleep).

Went to the GP in the morning and they gave me something to get me through. I’m all good now but I’m back where I started before taking benzos, which is hard when I’m trying to run a business.

I guess what I’m trying to say is benzos are great for giving your life back but it’s kind of like you pay for it on the backend. All the anxiety, panic attacks etc that the benzos take away come back with a vengeance when you stop.

I’ve tried do many different treatments over the years but they’re the only thing that let me live a normal life. I’ll keep searching for a better option but I feel like I’m running out of options.

They were discussing this on radio ABC this morning.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I’ll probably regret sharing this but, Benzodiazepines are a motherf***er. They give you your life back but tolerance builds quickly and before you know it it takes 3X the dose you needed at the start. I’ve had my battles with them myself. Not long ago I went cold turkey off 4mg ~ 6mg per day (I started on .5mg when first started, apparently I have a high tolerance) of alprazolam because my script ran out early, my psychiatrist refused to give me another script early. I lasted about 3 weeks thinking it was going to get better then I just couldn’t take it. It was late on a Sunday night and I honestly couldn’t keep it in anymore...my wife picked up that something was going on because of the way I was acting. I was struggling. Fearing the seizures that can get people who go cold turkey off Xanax. My legs and arms were numb...it was f’ed. I took something to knock me out (one of the many meds I’ve been subscribed that didn’t work but knew it would put me to sleep).

Went to the GP in the morning and they gave me something to get me through. I’m all good now but I’m back where I started before taking benzos, which is hard when I’m trying to run a business.

I guess what I’m trying to say is benzos are great for giving your life back but it’s kind of like you pay for it on the backend. All the anxiety, panic attacks etc that the benzos take away come back with a vengeance when you stop.

I’ve tried do many different treatments over the years but they’re the only thing that let me live a normal life. I’ll keep searching for a better option but I feel like I’m running out of options.

I chose the psychologist route. I never wanted to use drugs to treat my pure O variant of OCD as I felt it was a temporary solution.

I still battle it every day, but it is far more tolerable than before. Behavioral exposure therapy was really confronting and you must be willing to be completely honest with yourself and your therapist. I understand therapy is not for everyone, but that is usually because you need to find the right therapist and it took me three therapists to find the doctor I wanted.

 

[see see]

My money is on Prince George of Cambridge. :stern look

Mine's on everyone's favourite Nazi scion, Princess Michael of Kent.

AKA The She's An Absolute

 

[Flawed Genius]

Mine's on everyone's favourite Nazi scion, Princess Michael of Kent.

AKA The She's An Absolute

Princess Michael = The George

 

[DesertRoo]

Mine's on everyone's favourite Nazi scion, Princess Michael of Kent.

AKA The She's An Absolute

Leaving it open to interpretation, Harry finally getting revenge for mum?

 

[Del191229]

It was his brother or his Dad.

I'm leaning towards his brother, and said in a way that wasn't as capital R racist as being portrayed, more ignorance than actual prejudice.

 

[DesertRoo]

It was his brother or his Dad.

I'm leaning towards his brother, and said in a way that wasn't as capital R racist as being portrayed, more ignorance than actual prejudice.

It sounds like uncouth jovial banter from someone just out of eton, with little to no life experience.

 

[Royal Flush]

Well done, on sharing your battle.
Lucky your not JP, otherwise you'd get trolled, by you know who.

I think you'll find most humans have had or a battling something.

I don't respect enough posters here to share my past.
But I can assure you the the solution isn't medication.
I wouldn't even be tempted to use psychedelics. Such a stupid risk, with more downside then up.

Psychiatrists are like cops with a new gun, a script pad and they can't wait to shoot it, and give you the latest drug, sold to then by a pharma sales rep.

As someone else stated, a good counsellor or psychologists. A long and regular relationship with them, may help in uncovering some of the past demons that you may or may not be aware off.

Anxiety and depression are perfectly normal human reactions , that serve a purpose.

Good luck on your journey.

I’ll probably regret sharing this but, Benzodiazepines are a motherf***er. They give you your life back but tolerance builds quickly and before you know it it takes 3X the dose you needed at the start. I’ve had my battles with them myself. Not long ago I went cold turkey off 4mg ~ 6mg per day (I started on .5mg when first started, apparently I have a high tolerance) of alprazolam because my script ran out early, my psychiatrist refused to give me another script early. I lasted about 3 weeks thinking it was going to get better then I just couldn’t take it. It was late on a Sunday night and I honestly couldn’t keep it in anymore...my wife picked up that something was going on because of the way I was acting. I was struggling. Fearing the seizures that can get people who go cold turkey off Xanax. My legs and arms were numb...it was f’ed. I took something to knock me out (one of the many meds I’ve been subscribed that didn’t work but knew it would put me to sleep).

Went to the GP in the morning and they gave me something to get me through. I’m all good now but I’m back where I started before taking benzos, which is hard when I’m trying to run a business.

I guess what I’m trying to say is benzos are great for giving your life back but it’s kind of like you pay for it on the backend. All the anxiety, panic attacks etc that the benzos take away come back with a vengeance when you stop.

I’ve tried do many different treatments over the years but they’re the only thing that let me live a normal life. I’ll keep searching for a better option but I feel like I’m running out of options.

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[Del191229]

It sounds like uncouth jovial banter from someone just out of eton, with little to no life experience.

I reckon more like his brother trying to say, mate, it is going to be HARD, I'm not sure how hard you know it will be for the first black royal.

Do you know how dark he'll be?

Harry gets back the US/on Zoom, relays the conversation to Meghan, who takes it entirely differently (understandably so).

 

[SpiderBurton22]

I reckon more like his brother trying to say, mate, it is going to be HARD, I'm not sure how hard you know it will be for the first black royal.

Do you know how dark he'll be?

Harry gets back the US/on Zoom, relays the conversation to Meghan, who takes it entirely differently (understandably so).

It was Charlie.

Hazza said his relationship with his brother is fine. His old man, not so much.

 

[DesertRoo]

I reckon more like his brother trying to say, mate, it is going to be HARD, I'm not sure how hard you know it will be for the first black royal.

Do you know how dark he'll be?

Harry gets back the US/on Zoom, relays the conversation to Meghan, who takes it entirely differently (understandably so).

I think this is the key to it, you’ll have a brotherly conversation, relayed to the respective others.. I don’t think their was malice intended but brings into light the succession plans for the royals.
they’re in a world of hurt if you got Charles or the Will as choices. If indeed it comes out as him.

 

[Del191229]

It was Charlie.

Hazza said his relationship with his brother is fine. His old man, not so much.

Him and his bro did fall out for a while.

But yeah, even with big ears, reckon similar scenario to what I described above.

 

[DesertRoo]

It was Charlie.

Hazza said his relationship with his brother is fine. His old man, not so much.

I think the bad blood from Charlie stems from cutting them off from the royal nipple..

 

[Del191229]

I think this is the key to it, you’ll have a brotherly conversation, relayed to the respective others.. I don’t think their was malice intended but brings into light the succession plans for the royals.
they’re in a world of hurt if you got Charles or the Will as choices. If indeed it comes out as him.

Also, there is a point here that is actually a key element in this thread of tears itself - white people are very rarely, if ever, the victims of racism themselves, so are not well placed to identify what racism is and isn't.

Someone like Meghan Markle, growing up African American, will have an entirely different view on what constitutes racism.

 

[DesertRoo]

Also, there is a point here that is actually a key element in this thread of tears itself - white people are very rarely, if ever, the victims of racism themselves, so are not well placed to identify what racism is and isn't.

Someone like Meghan Markle, growing up African American, will have an entirely different view on what constitutes racism.

Imagine having to figure out what racism is if you were born into an inbred family, home schooled, closed off from the outside, socially managed, then sent to one of the most prestigious schools in the world.
his experience with kids of colour would be a kid who dad owns a merchant bank or a meet and greet of a tour of Africa.
Fingers crossed when queen passes, Australia will have a real debate about the head of state.

 

[Del191229]

Imagine having to figure out what racism is if you were born into an inbred family, home schooled, closed off from the outside, socially managed, then sent to one of the most prestigious schools in the world.
his experience with kids of colour would be a kid who dad owns a merchant bank or a meet and greet of a tour of Africa.
Fingers crossed when queen passes, Australia will have a real debate about the head of state.

Which one?

Harry served in the military for a while, and front line too, he would have interacted with folks from a wide variety of backgrounds.

William was never front line, so as you say ...

 

[Del191229]