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[koshari]

Yeah I agree but I hope he donates his brain for CTE studies.

its prolly a bit different with regards to "celebrities" such as Sevile, I mean they really are only famous for being famous and cant be compared to sports people, artists or musicians who have hones specific skills or achieved high acculades in their fields. Then again you get the occasional personality that crosses over from accomplished sportsman to celebrity such as Sam Newman.

 

[Val Keating]

its prolly a bit different with regards to "celebrities" such as Sevile, I mean they really are only famous for being famous and cant be compared to sports people, artists or musicians who have hones specific skills or achieved high acculades in their fields. Then again you get the occasional personality that crosses over from accomplished sportsman to celebrity such as Sam Newman.

I meant OJ

 

[DR Tipple]

Did Japan leave them a choice? I’m not so sure. If Japan had the capacity they 100% would’ve nuked civilians. They didn’t even care about their own people, let alone other nations.

the choice was a full scale invasion of the home island costing an estimated 1 million allied casualties and adding another few years to the war or drop 2 bombs without fear of reprisal as they were the only ones to have them at the time.

 

[koshari]

Yes you can.

You can take a title away but records are a bit different, Carey, Ablet Snr, Gasgoyne, Jones, Cantona all examples of onfield greats that have had off field (in cantinas case only a few feet of the field but i digress) hinderances.

 

[koshari]

I meant OJ

prolly both would have been worthy candidates.

 

[Val Keating]

prolly both would have been worthy candidates.

I’m certain OJ would have CTE. Reminds me of Hernandez

 

[DesertRoo]

the choice was a full scale invasion of the home island costing an estimated 1 million allied casualties and adding another few years to the war or drop 2 bombs without fear of reprisal as they were the only ones to have them at the time.

If you believe that about the first, what about the justification on Nagasaki?

ATOMIC BOMBINGS AT 75: The Mystery of the Nagasaki Bomb

On Aug. 9, 1945, as Japan’s high command met on surrender plans, the U.S. dropped a second bomb on Nagasaki killing 74,000 people instantly, a decision that's never been adequately explained, writes John LaForge. Originally published by Consortium News on Aug. 9, 2014. By John LaForge

consortiumnews.com

also everyone at project manhattan was pretty clear from the get go they were there to defeat Stalin, Japan was already defeated.

 

[DR Tipple]

If you believe that about the first, what about the justification on Nagasaki?

ATOMIC BOMBINGS AT 75: The Mystery of the Nagasaki Bomb

On Aug. 9, 1945, as Japan’s high command met on surrender plans, the U.S. dropped a second bomb on Nagasaki killing 74,000 people instantly, a decision that's never been adequately explained, writes John LaForge. Originally published by Consortium News on Aug. 9, 2014. By John LaForge

consortiumnews.com

also everyone at project manhattan was pretty clear from the get go they were there to defeat Stalin, Japan was defeated.

im with you the second was always a message to uncle jo to cease and desist his expansion into western europe

 

[Del191229]

The Jimmy Savile story is wild. Reckon there’s more to it that we’ll never know. Such a creepy looking bloke to. He actually looked like a stereotypical sex offender.

Oh yeah, plenty going on there.

I remember when I started working as a journo over there and finding out about him and bring like he's a paedo right and everyone shouting me down because he was a beloved childhood memory.

 

[Del191229]

So hard to believe someone is fluent in dolphin.

They are talking down there

 

[DesertRoo]

All it took was a Catalonia and a pandemic for the EU to shows it’s true colours..

Facing 'crisis of century', EU threatens ban on COVID vaccine exports to UK

The European Union threatened on Wednesday to ban exports of COVID-19 vaccines to Britain to safeguard scarce doses for its own citizens facing a third wave of the pandemic that would jeopardise plans to restart travel this summer.

www.reuters.com

 

[Del191229]

 

[Del191229]

On cancel culture

Why can't Britain handle the truth about Winston Churchill? | Priyamvada Gopal

Nothing, it seems, can be allowed to tarnish the national myth – as I found when hosting a Cambridge debate about his murkier side, says academic Priyamvada Gopal

www.theguardian.com

 

[DesertRoo]

On cancel culture

Why can't Britain handle the truth about Winston Churchill? | Priyamvada Gopal

Nothing, it seems, can be allowed to tarnish the national myth – as I found when hosting a Cambridge debate about his murkier side, says academic Priyamvada Gopal

www.theguardian.com

I’m not sure that’s cancel culture, because we certainly can have the debate about historical figures without urge to remove them.

what they’re basically saying is what someone’s ideals are in their youth must be the same ideals they share into adulthood.
humans are complex creature, we have the ability to evolve.

 

[Del191229]

 

[Del191229]

I’m not sure that’s cancel culture, because we certainly can have the debate about historical figures without urge to remove them.

Again, did you even read the piece mate?

Where it spells out in detail repeated efforts to PREVENT debate on Churchill.

The people trying to cancel those events are those who squeal loudest about wokesters and cancel culture.

 

[DesertRoo]

Again, did you even read the piece mate?

Where it spells out in detail repeated efforts to PREVENT debate on Churchill.

The people trying to cancel those events are those who squeal loudest about wokesters and cancel culture.

I was replying to your comment ‘on cancel culture’

academics complaining that they no longer have the ability to discuss historical figures because of political interference isn’t cancel culture, reread my post..

the writer trying to shift blame back onto the media/society/right wing elements because of this isn’t really news. It’s called blow back from a stupid movement.

 

[DesertRoo]

SimpkinByTheDockOfTheBay i think this is something we’re never going to see eye to eye on..

our views worlds apart on the issue, destruction of historical monuments is never ok, regardless of what they represent and I don’t believe it’s helping trying to frame this as a left wing/right wing thing either because the pendulum always swings.

I’ll leave it up to you and the others to keep going in circular arguments.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

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In fairness to Elam, it's possible that the diarrhoea medicine took the form of a red pill.

 

[Del191229]

SimpkinByTheDockOfTheBay destruction of historical monuments is never ok, regardless of what they represent

So the Irish should have kept Nelson's Column out the front of the GPO where they literally declared their Republic?

Destroying historical monuments is literally human nature.

 

[Del191229]

 

[DesertRoo]

So the Irish should have kept Nelson's Column out the front of the GPO where they literally declared their Republic?

Circular debate...
have an old post.

Change the plaque, shifting them from the town centre or to a museum, all of these are reasonable suggestions.

But that’s completely different debate to abolishing them.

 

[The Brady Bunch]

So the Irish should have kept Nelson's Column out the front of the GPO where they literally declared their Republic?

Destroying historical monuments is literally human nature.

Was the Berlin Wall an historical monument?

 

[Del191229]

Wow, people bag WOKE thinking on here but also believe it is sensible to maintain a ****ing monument to foreigners that killed millions of your countrypeople.

 

[Del191229]

Was the Berlin Wall an historical monument?

Parts of it were kept but I take your point.