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IMO There’s no decent argument for a citizen owning a machine gun. I spose they’ll just have to live with a random shooting as many people as possible because no governments going to be able to take their assault rifles off them.

Just as a side thought, it’s strange that all the mass shooters use the AR15 and the gangsters use AK with a modified clip
AKs are cheap and easily available and most likely untraceable.

You could buy them in Sydney for $1500 (with full two clips supposedly) in Sydney 15 o 20 years ago.
 
IMO There’s no decent argument for a citizen owning a machine gun. I spose they’ll just have to live with a random shooting as many people as possible because no governments going to be able to take their assault rifles off them.

Just as a side thought, it’s strange that all the mass shooters use the AR15 and the gangsters use AK with a modified clip
Civilian AR-15s are not full auto. They are semi automatic weapons. Tho that probably makes them more effective for mass killing. And its not that difficult to change their rate of fire from single shot. Relatively speaking. the US is full of amateur gunsmiths.
 
You are referring to how many people over how many years in a population of how many people?

It's trivial.

The U.S. murders more innocent people in an average day when they aren't even at war with them.
This is so true. Imagine if people were as outraged when non Americans were shot by US citizens.
 
It's not a big deal in the big scheme of things.

It's the sort of thing that fortunate idle white people indulge themselves with.
The US anti gun movement only really kicked off after Black Americans started quoting the second and walking around their city streets with armed patrols to protect people from cops. Even today the same thing happens, hence orgs like the Huey P Newton Gun Club.

Its how and why the original Black Panther Party started tho if you watched the recent superhero movie you probably know that^.









^LOL of course not, it wasn't mentioned.
 
Agreed mate, that wasnt my point,

Having personally having fired an ak47 on fully auto mode it really just serves as cover fire and with the muzzle riding up continuously your fighting it with every shot all the time wasting rounds. on the other hand skilled mark with a rifle on semi auto would surely be able to hit more targets at intermediate range than on auto so the argument is sort of moot.

likewise in close confines there is no substitute to a pistol ( or 2). of course here pistols are already very well regulated compared to long arms.

so again it comes back to the laws and people perception of what category firearms pose the greatest risk to the public. and like most fields the laws often dont always meet the reality.

And with regard to the round, the hollow point hunting rounds are also designed to inflict maximum damage to the target and is the reason why full metal jackets are an outcome of the Hague convention
The only point of full auto is to lay covering fire or to fill a particular area of space with lead and make it uninhabitable.

For a while at the end of last century assault rifles were being built with a three shot burst option and sometimes even no full auto. Although someone once told me there is an SLR above the door in the NCOs mess at the SAS HQ and its had the barrel shortened to an inch and it only fires full auto. Apparantly it was for clearing rooms. Someone kicks the door open someone else throws in a flash/bang and the a thrid person would point that weapon at the floor and empty 30 rounds into the room in about a second. Nasty.
 
Forget protests, I have heard that letter writing alone is interpreted as 1000 votes at the ballot box.

If only more folks were aware of the power of a small committed group of lobbyists.
One letter on paper carries more weight than 5 or 6 figures of emails allegedly.
 

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Yes and no. People do make their own signs all the time. It is when the signs are overly consistent I'm appearance and message.

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Seems a bit OTT but https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/planet-earth/oceans/overfishing-statistics/story

It might seem that way but are ****ing this place beyond repair.

Get used to eating jellyfish cos for the last 15 or so years they are one of the few (non domestic) groups of life forms increasing in numbers.
 
It might seem that way but are ******* this place beyond repair.

Get used to eating jellyfish cos for the last 15 or so years they are one of the few (non domestic) groups of life forms increasing in numbers.
Happened to be in the car today listening to Doctor Karl on Triple J (my companion is significantly younger than me); anyway, Doctor Karl was off on one of his impressive tangents, and mentioned that the water that had melted from the poles, had - courtesy of centrifugal force - concentrated around the equator and (again courtesy of said force), began to tilt the earth off its axis.

Now that, my friends, is scary as all get out
 

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Won’t take much. 75 million of them wanted a second term of Trump. They’re already doing China are evil propaganda.

Hey did you see the Saudi’s (backed by the US) blew up a massive rice silo in Yemen? Crickets in the media.

Edit - It was a grain port not a rice silo
They are just doing their bit for the famine in Yemen.
 
Happened to be in the car today listening to Doctor Karl on Triple J (my companion is significantly younger than me); anyway, Doctor Karl was off on one of his impressive tangents, and mentioned that the water that had melted from the poles, had - courtesy of centrifugal force - concentrated around the equator and (again courtesy of said force), began to tilt the earth off its axis.

Now that, my friends, is scary as all get out
Its also falling out of the sky at ever increasing rates.
 
I don’t know much about guns. It just looks like a machine gun, but I spose we can just call it an assault rifle if we’re being correct.
jsut thought i would post a video where some bloke actually explains the function of the bump stock, its a pretty well produced video to explain the concept, also the bloke does so in a pretty neutral presentation from a political viewpoint.

 
AKs are cheap and easily available and most likely untraceable.

You could buy them in Sydney for $1500 (with full two clips supposedly) in Sydney 15 o 20 years ago.
$1500 AUD for an AK I wouldnt call cheap but i hear you can buy flogged out ones in africa for cheap. and yes like untracable given the amount of clone manufacturers of them , the wifes .22LR even cost us over $600AUD and i wouldn't call that cheap. you can get a bolt action .22 at walmart for closer to USD100, now thats cheap, https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=140596624
 
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jsut thought i would post a video where some bloke actually explains the function of the bump stock, its a pretty well produced video to explain the concept, also the bloke does so in a pretty neutral presentation from a political viewpoint.



Cheers. People will always figure out a work around I spose. If they ban the bump stock then I’m sure there’s another way to manipulate the weapon for a quicker pull and release of the trigger.
 
Cheers. People will always figure out a work around I spose. If they ban the bump stock then I’m sure there’s another way to manipulate the weapon for a quicker pull and release of the trigger.
Yes indeed. Like the radar detector/undetectable radar ping pong match or the ongoing synthetic cannabis legal stouch.
And the Law continually lags and in the meantime all the legal eagles are making out like vultures round a carcass.
 
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