Play Nice Random Chat Thread V

[ferball]

Right wing extremism does exist,
If you believe in 21st century statecraft and what happened in tunisia in 2011. The tech companies were able to mobilise a largely disenfranchised population. the West copped blow back in terms of small scale terrorist attacks.

What happened years later, to combat Russia in Ukraine same system was used, only problem was the underestimate of disenfranchised population in the west..

Nobody knew what was happening in Tunisia tho, or Egypt. Both those things kicked off ebcause of police brutality and ongoing everyday oppression by shithead governments. Especially compared to the manufactured things that followed.

I had friends in Egypt who said for years in the lead up that the place was a powder keg and onme day something would happen and people would have had enough. One of them ... it was disturbing to see how she changed her views afterward, in support of the idea of NGOs and foreign govs funding this stuff. Egypt was a major port in the rendition route under Mubarak and Sisi was responsible for much of the coordination of that process. It was heavily supported by the US at the time, and even then Twitter was feeding metadata to security forces.

Anyway my friend changed alot. her critical thinking was gone and she was very dogmatic about the Israeli/US origin of the uprising. Its hard to explain a decade later but IMO the counter revolution in Egypt is something that needs much deeper examination. In many ways the idea that any uprising against often repressive governments is just US/Soros manipulation is a very powerful form of social control that supports the status quo.

 

[Royal Flush]

The old bogey man.

They only appear to serve woke politics in reality, so you have to wonder to what extent this is a constructed phenomena.

If they are genuine, then politically they're legitimate morons who do everything possible to fail whilst strengthening the position of their supposed opposition.

Chief certainly believes in them. He sees "Stormfront" in his breakfast cereal.

On Pixel 4a (5G) using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[DesertRoo]

Nobody knew what was happening in Tunisia tho, or Egypt. Both those things kicked off ebcause of police brutality and ongoing everyday oppression by sh*thead governments. Especially compared to the manufactured things that followed.

I had friends in Egypt who said for years in the lead up that the place was a powder keg and onme day something would happen and people would have had enough. One of them ... it was disturbing to see how she changed her views afterward, in support of the idea of NGOs and foreign govs funding this stuff. Egypt was a major port in the rendition route under Mubarak and Sisi was responsible for much of the coordination of that process. It was heavily supported by the US at the time, and even then Twitter was feeding metadata to security forces.

Anyway my friend changed alot. her critical thinking was gone and she was very dogmatic about the Israeli/US origin of the uprising. Its hard to explain a decade later but IMO the counter revolution in Egypt is something that needs much deeper examination. In many ways the idea that any uprising against often repressive governments is just US/Soros manipulation is a very powerful of social control that supports the status quo.

I believe there’s certainly a difference between what happen with the removal of Mubarak and Morsi..
there was hope for a better future after Mubarak, after Morsi the mood went dark..

 

[ferball]

I believe there’s certainly a difference between what happen with the removal of Mubarak and Morsi..
there was hope for a better future after Mubarak, after Morsi the mood went dark..

According to one Egyptian activist whose name I forget the MB were the only organisation not wiped out by Mubarak. Trade Unions and other progressive NGOs were all oppressed heavily and basically non functtional. Its why the MB was the only organisation with resources to seriously challenge the post uprising election. Same guy reckoned this was part of their (Mubarak/Sisi and the Egyptian gov/military) plan all along. They knew the MB would be unpalatable to most people and way too radical and religious for a diverse and reasonably secular society whereas other organisations may be able to unite the country.

My parents were in Egypt in the early 90s and there were regular anti gov riots that were never reported cos of potential damage to the tourist trade. Most of them not related to radical Islam.

 

[DesertRoo]

According to one Egyptian activist whose name I forget the MB were the only organisation not wiped out by Mubarak. Trade Unions and other progressive NGOs were all oppressed heavily and basically non functtional. Its why the MB was the only organisation with resources to seriously challenge the post uprising election. Same guy reckoned this was part of their (Mubarak/Sisi and the Egyptian gov/military) plan all along. They knew the MB would be unpalatable to most people and way too radical and religious for a diverse and reasonably secular society whereas other organisations may be able to unite the country.

My parents were in Egypt in the early 90s and there were regular anti gov riots that were never reported cos of potential damage to the tourist trade. Most of them not related to radical Islam.

After Mubarak I think there was a naive belief in democracy.
the MB is/was well funded from gulf sheiks. In twelve months the MB even went as far as trying to establish a parallel army like the revolutionary guard.
So you can imagine why House of Saud and others freaked, having another religious authority close by and it pretty much kissed any chance of real change/democracy goodbye.

As part of a major plan, not sure..
shifting sands of diplomacy, absolutely, sometimes it’s better the devil you know for everyone involved.

 

[Tectonic]

Is this some witty "inside" beta male thing?

I'll slow it down for you

"Hemingway, according to Edna O’Brien, also transcended gender. “Parts of ‘A Farewell to Arms’ could have been written by a woman,” she says on camera. “It is the androgyny in a man or a woman that allows them, even if briefly, not utterly, to be able to put themselves inside the skin of the opposite thing.”

Context snek.
This person is saying Hemingway wrote in a way that allowed both men and women to empathize with the characters. Something a lot of authors struggle with.
Take 'The quiet American' for example. Its a similar book in many respects but Folwer isn't really written in a way that women of the time could relate to.

You should chill on looking for culture war in everything you look at, cherry picking out things that in isolation sound much more divisive than intended makes you look like either you only read and comprehend things one sentence at a time or you're being dishonest.

 

[Del191229]

According to one Egyptian activist whose name I forget the MB were the only organisation not wiped out by Mubarak. Trade Unions and other progressive NGOs were all oppressed heavily and basically non functtional. Its why the MB was the only organisation with resources to seriously challenge the post uprising election. Same guy reckoned this was part of their (Mubarak/Sisi and the Egyptian gov/military) plan all along. They knew the MB would be unpalatable to most people and way too radical and religious for a diverse and reasonably secular society whereas other organisations may be able to unite the country.

My parents were in Egypt in the early 90s and there were regular anti gov riots that were never reported cos of potential damage to the tourist trade. Most of them not related to radical Islam.

Uep, classic survival strategy of the secular dictator in that part of the world

 

[Val Keating]

Had a look at a job today. I walk in a the whole house is full of taxidermies. Dudes had everything. Literally the whole house is full of them. Not a space sparred. Ceiling in the entrance was covered with all kinds of antlers, heads of every deer you could think of. Got weird when I went into the lounge and there’s a full black bear, ivory- heaps of ivory, an elephant foot chair, couldn’t believe it. Unbelievable. Asked him if he’s a hunter and responds “No, just a collector”. One of the tusks was about a meter long, looked like it was from a rhino to me, it was attached to a record player. Honestly never seen anything like it. Bizarre.

 

[Val Keating]

^^I asked his nephew about it and it’s all legit.

 

[Val Keating]

On the funnier side.,..

My daughters have been doing BJJ for a couple of months and I’ve had to ban them from practicing working on their arm bars in their bedroom when it’s bedtime. I think I’m raising a couple of savages lol

 

[Del191229]

 

[Tectonic]

 

[Del191229]

Just for when folks say oh yeah but "they" never mention Aboriginal domestic violence, here's a journalist mentioning it as the key priority for the new Women's Safety Minister.

 

[Del191229]

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Libertarianism - identity politics for emotionally stunted white men.

 

[Tectonic]

Libertarianism - identity politics for emotionally stunted white men.

Freedom for all, unless I don't like what you're doing

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Just for when folks say oh yeah but "they" never mention Aboriginal domestic violence, here's a journalist mentioning it as the key priority for the new Women's Safety Minister.

NITV and its journalists have often been quite vocal on the matter and have long pushed for action. All power to them, it’s long overdue.

 

[Del191229]

 

[see see]

My new favourite rapper is Lil Nas.

Sir Mix-a-Lot and Ganxsta Zolee are going to be inconsolable when they read this.

 

[koshari]

^^I asked his nephew about it and it’s all legit.

mate i knew as a kids old mans place was like that, he was a hunter . mostly deer however.

 

[ferball]

The irony of this comment is they would be if some campaigners like them had their way.

 

[ferball]

I'm wondering what people think of this article.

Where Mindfulness Falls Short

Today, more than half of all large companies offer their employees some form of mindfulness training — a broad set of practices and techniques focusing on increasing awareness of the here and now. But new research suggests that these programs don’t always improve people’s wellbeing or their job...

hbr.org

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I'm wondering what people think of this article.

Where Mindfulness Falls Short

Today, more than half of all large companies offer their employees some form of mindfulness training — a broad set of practices and techniques focusing on increasing awareness of the here and now. But new research suggests that these programs don’t always improve people’s wellbeing or their job...

hbr.org

Interesting.

I am a bit biased with my OCD, but I definitely agree about mindfulness sometimes makes people obsess on unhealthy thoughts. I always struggled with mindfulness, except as an occasional analytical tool to identify deep-seated issues.

Instead of mindfulness, I learned to accept what is in my control and what isn’t. Accepting that many things are outside my control, and accepting that nothing is 100% certain, has worked personal wonders for me.

 

[rickety]

I'm wondering what people think of this article.

Where Mindfulness Falls Short

Today, more than half of all large companies offer their employees some form of mindfulness training — a broad set of practices and techniques focusing on increasing awareness of the here and now. But new research suggests that these programs don’t always improve people’s wellbeing or their job...

hbr.org

Ignorance is bliss

 

[Val Keating]

mate i knew as a kids old mans place was like that, he was a hunter . mostly deer however.

That I can understand. Shoot an animal, eat it and put up it’s head as a trophy, it’s primal but I get it. Just collecting the shit was what I found strange. It wasn’t the biggest place either but him and his husband literally had it everywhere. There wasn’t room anywhere for something new. I’m pretty sure I got the job so I’ll see if he’ll let me take a couple of photos.

Though tbh we didn’t talk about it...pardon the pun but it was the elephant in the room.

 

[Val Keating]

Like is it even legal to own that stuff these days?