Play Nice Random Chat Thread VI

[Val Keating]

Not totally unexpected, but this is only going worsen our dependency on the USA. We have no nuclear industry to support it all and it is off-the-shelf, so the yanks will have all the source codes for all the important tech/systems.

Australia to get nuclear-powered submarines, scrap $90b plan to build French-designed subs

The ABC understands Australia will use American and British technology to configure its next submarine fleet in a bid to replace its existing Collins class subs with a boat more suitable to the deteriorating strategic environment.

www.abc.net.au

Is it just about keeping China circled?

 

[Ligma]

What’s going on with her? I’ve noticed a lot of chatter about her in the politics realm. She seems to have pissed off the far left.

She said some mumble jumble about not taking the vaccine for the met gala lol because her cousin in Trinidad had it and it made his balls get swollen lol then she went on to say this because Boris said something about her on the news

 

[Val Keating]

How the fu** is he Prime Minister.
He isn’t a leaders arsehole.

This country was finished when we voted him in 2019. This guy. fu** me I’m embarrassed. Where as a society did we go wrong?

Tbf all three of them are cactus.

 

[Val Keating]

She said some mumble jumble about not taking the vaccine for the met gala lol because her cousin in Trinidad had it and it made his balls get swollen lol then she went on to say this

Ahhhh now I understand all the big balls memes.

And she’s obviously a bit mental. Weird how she’s getting more shade for this then she did for hanging out with tekashi 69

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Is it just about keeping China circled?

Naval collaboration and higher naval interoperability, so I would say so. They probably want us to contribute more as exemplified by the fact that they are offering us (military-applied) nuclear technology for the first ever time. They previously would not even give us information on anechoic tiles (quietens a sub's noise profile) for the Collins submarine because they contained nuclear technology.

 

[Val Keating]

Naval collaboration, so I would say so. They probably want us to contribute more as exemplified by the fact that they are offering us nuclear technology for the first ever time. They would not even give us information on anechoic tiles (quietens a sub's noise profile) for the Collins submarine because they contained nuclear technology.

I know you just did a massive amount of work on this stuff, but is there a simple answer to, why is it bad that we need the US? I feel like if we didn’t have a strong ally we’d be out here with all our resources ripe for the taking.

 

[tazaa]

Tbf all three of them are cactus.

Could have had Bernie, Corbyn and anyone but Scomo. The less said the better.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I know you just did a massive amount of work on this stuff, but is there a simple answer to, why is it bad that we need the US? I feel like if we didn’t have a strong ally we’d be out here with all our resources ripe for the taking.

Simply put, it is our reliance on great and powerful friends that drives a lot of this. There are other generational aspects, like a limited manufacturing base, limited resources, domination by foreign subsidiaries and a general unwillingness to take on costly risky local defence projects etc., but it mostly comes back to the comfort of having a big and powerful friend to protect us.

The fact that the yanks are giving Australia (military-application) nuclear tech shows they are starting to feel the pinch.

 

[see see]

Our politicians are such dorks.

It's a difficult skill to master when one doesn't know their arse from their elbow.

 

[Royal Flush]

I know you just did a massive amount of work on this stuff, but is there a simple answer to, why is it bad that we need the US? I feel like if we didn’t have a strong ally we’d be out here with all our resources ripe for the taking.

My general simplification of this is that, whilst the US has spent trillions to remain a global superpower, that benefits our safety. It's come at a cost socially to them.
We've had the luxury of using our federal coffers spending on healthcare, infrastructure, and services that benefit the people.
Their federal highways and healthcare system is way below what it should be.


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[Thndr]

Could have had Bernie, Corbyn and anyone but Scomo. The less said the better.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Joe pwn3d Scotty

 

[Val Keating]

Joe pwn3d Scotty

He probably just forgot what was happening tbf.

 

[B4Bear]

That is a big pole in the eye to China.

They will no doubt denounce it in the next few days.

 

[Val Keating]

That is a big pole in the eye to China.

They will no doubt denounce it in the next few days.

So what?

 

[B4Bear]

So what?

Was an observation. Nothing more.
They are already targeting us, so it will make little difference economically.

 

[Val Keating]

Was an observation. Nothing more.
They are already targeting us, so it will make little difference economically.

I can’t stand the CCP. They’re an authoritarian racist dictatorship that wants to take over the world. They treat their own people like s**t.

The world is in a pandemic because of something that has come from China yet still refuses to let outsiders conduct a proper investigation into what happened. I want no part of them.

 

[DesertRoo]

Simply put, it is our reliance on great and powerful friends that drives a lot of this. There are other generational aspects, like a limited manufacturing base, limited resources, domination by foreign subsidiaries and a general unwillingness to take on costly risky local defence projects etc., but it mostly comes back to the comfort of having a big and powerful friend to protect us.

The fact that the yanks are giving Australia (military-application) nuclear tech shows they are starting to feel the pinch.

The subs are neither here nor there for me, the a.i. partnership will be the interesting, because whoever conquers it first, will rule the world.
did you also see the sth Korea tested ballistic launching from subs yesterday.. I think they’ve joined a very small club.

all the counties around Taiwan are flexing.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

The subs are neither here nor there for me, the a.i. partnership will be the interesting, because whoever concours it first, will rule the world.
did you also see the sth Korea tested ballistic launching from subs yesterday.. I think they’ve joined a very small club.

all the counties around Taiwan are flexing.

Everyone is fiddling with hypersonic and ballistic missile defence tech atm.

 

[DesertRoo]

Everyone is fiddling with hypersonic and ballistic missile defence tech atm.

Absolutely, but there’s a difference between launching platforms.
the ability to launch from 1000’s km from your territory is not so much a deterrent.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Absolutely, but there’s a difference between launching platforms.
the ability to launch from 1000’s km from your territory is not so much a deterrent.

At the end of the day, the only thing we should be scared of is the big ballistic missiles. Whilst cruise and hypersonic have long range, they don't have the same range or lethality as a ballistic missile. They would have to be right in our waters to hit anything.

I personally don't think we are really worth wasting a ballistic or nuclear missile on, but some think differently.

 

[DesertRoo]

At the end of the day, the only thing we should be scared of is the big ballistic missiles. Whilst cruise and hypersonic have long range, they don't have the same range or lethality as a ballistic missile. They would have to be right in our waters to hit anything.

I personally don't think we are really worth wasting a ballistic or nuclear missile on, but some think differently.

Sth Korea is an ally, not really worried about their ability to strike us.

what they’ve done is ratcheted up tensions in an already hot region. Aus getting new subs doesn’t shift the balance of power, as much as South Korea successfully testing the launching platform.

South Korea becomes 8th country to fire ballistic missile from sub

Move threatens to escalate arms race with Pyongyang

asia.nikkei.com

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Sth Korea is an ally, not really worried about their ability to strike us.

what they’ve done is ratcheted up tensions in an already hot region. Aus getting new subs doesn’t shift the balance of power, as much as South Korea successfully testing the launching platform.

South Korea becomes 8th country to fire ballistic missile from sub

Move threatens to escalate arms race with Pyongyang

asia.nikkei.com

I was talking generally about BMs.

The sub's will affect the balance, but only ever so slightly. The reason that they do shift power dynamics is because they are nuclear-propelled and, theoretically, have infinite range and can carry more ordinance than a conventionally powered submarine.

I agree, the BM testing will do more to destabilise things.

 

[Royal Flush]

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[LuvtheKangas]

He forgot his name .

It's an indictment on both of them. Unforgivable, really, for Biden to forget another leader's name, but at the same time, it speaks volumes as to how forgettable Scomo is.