Play Nice Random Chat Thread VI

[Val Keating]

I just checked his Instagram, it appears that Peng Dang is still promoting and performing at shows.

Hinchcliffe is not famous enough to cancel, to be honest. He's mostly known for appearing on a celebrity roast from sometime in the 2010s.

He has sets where he himself is racist. No real comedian will work with him now.

 

[Del191229]

 

[Del191229]

Ok sweet back it up,
Where and when do you think he turned from a kid from North Carolina, who’s parents were involved in national service to a commie traitor?

his past simply doesn’t support your theory.
He was a IT kid who joined national service after 9/11.. he never found god, just like minded individuals who believe in the Constitution of America.
You know right to privacy and all that… He was an idealist not a traitor. read above.

and he dumped on the surveillance state, not America.. there’s a massive line that you have to cross to believe what you’re assuming.

btw who do you think is at the forefront of this discussion.

White House walks back Biden comments on cybercriminal swap with Russia

The White House on Sunday walked back comments from President Biden that he’d be “open” to exchanging cybercriminals with Russia.

nypost.com

Oh my God, he's in MOSCOW mate.

Like how Kim Philby ended up there.

I'm amazed you're so invested in his legend.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

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$100, they're from Sebastapol.

 

[DesertRoo]

Oh my God, he's in MOSCOW mate.

Is that all you’ve got?
he is in one of the only places in the world he is safe… do you even know how he got there?
who was with him?
Or are you going to call Sarah Harrison a commie as well..

 

[Del191229]

Is that all you’ve got?
he is in one of the only places in the world he is safe… do you even know how he got there?
who was with him?
Or are you going to call Sarah Harrison a commie as well..

Yeah I know how he got there.

You honestly think Putin ... out of the goodness of his KGB trained heart ... said, oh look, here's a true American who believes in the Constitution who has somehow washed up on our shores, let us give him sanctuary.

Unbelievable naivety.

 

[Val Keating]

Just to get some clarity on your central thesis here, can you provide examples and outline when they were addressed?

Do you know the guys that do Sushi Mango? One of them was talking about King Kong and got comments saying he was being racist because comparisons made to black people in the past. He was talking about the actual King Kong and put out a video yesterday explaining it. Unfortunately ‘wokeism’ has been co-opted by people in order to try and shape culture and has been taken from what it really meant to be woke originally.

 

[Engimal v3]

He has sets where he himself is racist. No real comedian will work with him now.

Can't seem to find a source on that from Googling. He seems like a local Texan comedian who is continuing to do local Texas shows. Even searching up "peng dang backfire" brings up nothing, so I'm not sure that this has blown up in his face the way that you're portraying.

Edit: The only link I can find referencing this is a post on the KillTony subreddit, mentioning he only had ~5 shows booked but they've all been cancelled. However looking on Dang's website now, he has triple that booked now. So not only has it not blown up in his face, it seems that it's benefited his career almost.

 

[Val Keating]

 

[DesertRoo]

Yeah I know how he got there.

You honestly think Putin ... out of the goodness of his KGB trained heart ... said, oh look, here's a true American who believes in the Constitution who has somehow washed up on our shores, let us give him sanctuary.

Unbelievable naivety.

He sat at the airport for 40 days trying to get on a flight to Ecuador,
Remember the morales plane being diverted?
that certainly wouldn’t have happened if he was a Russian agent..

Whoever told you bedtime stories of Moscow agents, probably wouldn’t listen to them again.

and yes Putin being kgb understands leverage, he is America’s most wanted man, he would be able to stay until he wears out his welcome or America pays a price.

 

[Del191229]

He sat at the airport for 40 days trying to get on a flight to Ecuador,
Remember the morales plane being diverted?
that certainly wouldn’t have happened if he was a Russian agent..

Whoever told you bedtime stories of Moscow agents, probably wouldn’t listen to them again.

We may need to agree to disagree ... more accurately I'll just silently marvel at your willingness to swallow a good legend ... on this one.

 

[Val Keating]

Can't seem to find a source on that from Googling. He seems like a local Texan comedian who is continuing to do local Texas shows. Even searching up "peng dang backfire" brings up nothing, so I'm not sure that this has blown up in his face the way that you're portraying.

Edit: The only link I can find referencing this is a post on the KillTony subreddit, mentioning he only had ~5 shows booked but they've all been cancelled. However looking on Dang's website now, he has triple that booked now. So not only has it not blown up in his face, it seems that it's benefited his career almost.

Have you watched the whole set including Dangs?

 

[DesertRoo]

We may need to agree to disagree ... more accurately I'll just silently marvel at your willingness to swallow a good legend ... on this one.

If he is given up to US authorities, what will you believe?

 

[Engimal v3]

This is the most vanilla take ever. He actually hit the nail on the head in the first few seconds, but was too stupid to realise it: "It's like 1% of people"

The issues is that the media takes the Tweets from this 1% of people, and scares the 99% into thinking it's a topic of concern. Then morons like the guy in this video get so wrapped up in the comments of such a tiny slither of the population and think they're in the midst of some sort of culture war that doesn't exist.

Getting angry like this bloke does nothing but assure the media that their scare tactics work. Quite frankly, they do.

 

[Engimal v3]

Have you watched the whole set including Dangs?

Yep. I'm not here to make a comment on that, I just don't think there's any real evidence that this has been detremental to his career, and the evidence that does exist seems to indicate that Dang is booking shows better than before.

 

[AnEmptyChair]

Nah, that's just being normal - not saying it, or challenging people who do.

Being "woke" in the contemporary Australian context (the only one that matters for our purposes) is PERFORMATIVELY doing that.

Yeah, I'd have a whole lot more sympathy if Snake and people of his ilk directed their ire at the absolute performative bullshit that is the majority of corporate social responsibility and the 'woke-washing' from major corporations (**** yeah, Nike, Black Lives Matter. Now how many foreign kids are you exploiting overseas?) rather than at people who have legitimate grievances or organisations that are legitimately angling towards social progress and inclusivity. The problem is that he sees things like AFLW falling into that category, which I fundamentally disagree with.

 

[Val Keating]

Yep. I'm not here to make a comment on that, I just don't think there's any real evidence that this has been detremental to his career, and the evidence that does exist seems to indicate that Dang is booking shows better than before.

Well Tony gave Dang his start from kill Tony, after that Tony got Dang to open for him a bit. I listen to a lot of comedians podcasts and their reactions are all the same, they don’t want anything to do with him because his act is racist towards white people, but tried to cancel Tony for doing the same thing.

And I disagree that Tony isn’t popular enough to be cancelled, Kill Tony is pretty big and Tony is pretty big in the US.

 

[Val Keating]

This is the most vanilla take ever. He actually hit the nail on the head in the first few seconds, but was too stupid to realise it: "It's like 1% of people"

The issues is that the media takes the Tweets from this 1% of people, and scares the 99% into thinking it's a topic of concern. Then morons like the guy in this video get so wrapped up in the comments of such a tiny slither of the population and think they're in the midst of some sort of culture war that doesn't exist.

Getting angry like this bloke does nothing but assure the media that their scare tactics work. Quite frankly, they do.

Each to their own I guess.

 

[Val Keating]

 

[Themanbun]

Exactly, and the right wing have seized on that via culture wars to convince people to vote against their own economic interests.

Yeah I certainly don't disagree there, it has worked wonders to that awful end. I do feel though that there is an element on both 'sides' that seems to prioritise cultural aspects over economic ones.

However, these are often overplayed and magnified to make it feel as if this is the overwhelming interpretation of class. They'll take a nugget of truth or a fringe commentator on twitter and pretend that they're entirely representative of 'the left' for example. It's magnified in order to manufacture a culture war.

 

[DesertRoo]

Oh my God, he's in MOSCOW mate.

Like how Kim Philby ended up there.

I'm amazed you're so invested in his legend.

Sorry I didn’t see the edit;
Are you actually comparing someone who was working in Nazi Germany, who dealt in secrets with Snowden?

come on man, their stories ain’t even comparable, unless of course you think he was trying to sell what he got caught with?? To Glenn Greenwald..

 

[Val Keating]

Yeah I certainly don't disagree there, it has worked wonders. I do feel though that there is an element on both 'sides' that seems to prioritise cultural aspects over economic ones.

However, these are often overplayed and magnified to make it feel as if this is the overwhelming interpretation of class. They'll take a nugget of truth or a fringe commentator on twitter and pretend that they're entirely representative of 'the left' for example. It's magnified in order to manufacture a culture war.

And the people that think cancel culture is a threat absolutely love it when someone goes after ‘the woke mob’ so it incentivises people in the media to play the anti woke narrative.

 

[Engimal v3]

Yeah I certainly don't disagree there, it has worked wonders. I do feel though that there is an element on both 'sides' that seems to prioritise cultural aspects over economic ones.

However, these are often overplayed and magnified to make it feel as if this is the overwhelming interpretation of class. They'll take a nugget of truth or a fringe commentator on twitter and pretend that they're entirely representative of 'the left' for example. It's magnified in order to manufacture a culture war.

The whole tribalism of politics ruins any chance for real discourse. It's a really quite embarrassing that we have thousands of years of politics and society to refer to and reflect on, and yet we still get drawn into believing that the complexity of human ideaology can be seperated into "left" and "right" teams that you have to fly the flag for like it's your footy team.

 

[Engimal v3]

And the people that think cancel culture is a threat absolutely love it when someone goes after ‘the woke mob’ so it incentivises people in the media to play the anti woke narrative.

Spot on. I've posted this somewhere before so I hope I'm not repeating myself in this thread, but we've read stories about the "war on Christmas" for 20+ years now, and guess what? There's still Christmas.

 

[giantroo]