Play Nice Random Chat Thread VI

[rickety]

So far I have remained steadfast in not googling whomever Josh Rogan is I do have a Spike Milligan book to read though ....

 

[Makeshift Park]

Mmm rogan josh. Good call for a Sunday meal plan.

 

[Val Keating]

So far I have remained steadfast in not googling whomever Josh Rogan is I do have a Spike Milligan book to read though ....

Josh Rogin is actually an awesome journalist. He’s the guy who really blew the lid right off the lab leak theory and dr Fouci’s connection.

 

[Samsquanch]

So far I have remained steadfast in not googling whomever Josh Rogan is I do have a Spike Milligan book to read though ....

Walter Mally had such a fat belly
he couldn't get near the telly.
And he didn't listen to Spotify either.

 

[Val Keating]

One of my neighbours is having a party and is just pumping the Daft Punk Alive album and it’s making me want to just drop a goog from 2007 and have a ball.

 

[ferball]

If it was from 2007 would it still work?

 

[Joliet Jake]

Val at 3 o'clock in the morning;

 

[Tectonic]

Speaking of black rock, interesting take on inflation and controls.
I'm acutely aware of this stuff right now cos I've been trying to save enough to buy a house for the past 30 months, and I was almost struggling to match my savings to the rising prices.

Side note if anyone in here has some advice as far as how much to actually pay for a house, PM me cos I've love some insight.

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[Tectonic]

Maybe the link is buggered

 

[big_e]

Oh well. I was looking for something positive. He did say it would cost him tens of millions of dollars tho and they own half the publishing rights so that would have been significant wouln't it, its half the money from the song every time its played yeah? But of course they'll live.

BTW I said Black Rock and Vanguard own everything (including Hipgnosis via Blackstone) upthread it wasn't really truye. What I really meant (and should have typed) was they own a piece of everything (often a pretty big piece.)

Vanguard and Blackrock are mostly custodians or investment managers, rather than owning it themselves. So retail investors can invest in their ETFs, and buy a small parcel of lots of different companies around the world.

Of course, it's not us plebs who make up the majority of the most being managed by Blackrock or Vanguard, it's big institutions, often pension funds, sovereign wealth funds, college endowments - and the ultra wealthy. (Although the ultra wealthy typically have most of their wealth tied up in the business they founded.)

Blackstone is a big investor in its own right, but still looks after something like 50x of other peoples' money than they do their own. Fwiw, I think the Blackstone investment in Hipgnosis is a direct one, not on behalf of anyone else.

 

[ferball]

Vanguard and Blackrock are mostly custodians or investment managers, rather than owning it themselves. So retail investors can invest in their ETFs, and buy a small parcel of lots of different companies around the world.

Of course, it's not us plebs who make up the majority of the most being managed by Blackrock or Vanguard, it's big institutions, often pension funds, sovereign wealth funds, college endowments - and the ultra wealthy. (Although the ultra wealthy typically have most of their wealth tied up in the business they founded.)

Blackstone is a big investor in its own right, but still looks after something like 50x of other peoples' money than they do their own. Fwiw, I think the Blackstone investment in Hipgnosis is a direct one, not on behalf of anyone else.

They're basically a series of shells for the same bunch of people.

Ironically pension funds mean there is a share of worker ownership.

Oh shit its communism!!!

 

[blackshadow]

Looks like Neil Young's action might hit Spotify far more than it will impact him.

Spotify Lost More Than $2 Billion in Market Value After Neil Young Pulled His Music Over Joe Rogan’s Podcast

Spotify's market cap fell $2.1 billion after Neil Young pulled his songs in protest of Joe Rogan's misinformation-spreading podcast.

variety.com

It will be very interesting to see how many music lovers leave Spotify and how many musicians will weigh up their options and decide to leave - I will be cancelling.

There's starting to be a bit of a stench about Spotify.

 

[Tas]

Mate, you're probably too young to understand Neil Young's contribution to the world.

If you were older, you'd realise it's embarrassing to compare him unfavourably to Joe Rogan.

Let us also not forget that in 1985 Neil Young blamed gay people for AIDs and said in an interview he didn't want them handling his potatoes at the supermarket, I'd quote his exact quote but it is ban worthy in this day and age. Is he a sensible person or does he just blow whichever way the popular wind blows?

That is a bit unkind, in the mid 80s I was more or less a socialist, we can have crazy ideas and move forward and grow. I am sure he was grateful that the world didn't excommunicate him for those regressive thoughts and he was allowed the opportunity to grow.

I don't watch the Joe Rogan podcast regularly, I will see the odd one like when he has Neil Degrasse Tyson, Steven Pinker or someone else of interest but don't generally watch the show. I think it is fine for Rogan to put on guys like McCullough or Malone but he doesn't have the toolbox to take in what they say and follow up with critical thinking follow up questions and as far as I am aware he hasn't invited any of the doctors or scientists who have eviscerated those guests and their opinions. I think he should do more to show more balanced sides when confronting serious current issues.

 

[blackshadow]

Is he a sensible person or does he just blow whichever way the popular wind blows?

One thing I'd never think he does is blowing the way the popular wind blows.

He's out there and very much marches to the beat of his own drum. He doesn't always get it right but I believe he has a very strong moral compass that at times drives him even if sometimes it goes off direction now and then.

 

[Val Keating]

Looks like Neil Young's action might hit Spotify far more than it will impact him.

Spotify Lost More Than $2 Billion in Market Value After Neil Young Pulled His Music Over Joe Rogan’s Podcast

Spotify's market cap fell $2.1 billion after Neil Young pulled his songs in protest of Joe Rogan's misinformation-spreading podcast.

variety.com

It will be very interesting to see how many music lovers leave Spotify and how many musicians will weigh up their options and decide to leave - I will be cancelling.

There's starting to be a bit of a stench about Spotify.

The article doesn’t mention if their stock price went up after the Rogan signing. It does say that it was already sliding since January. Be interesting to see if there’s a overall net gain or loss since they signed Rogan.

 

[ferball]

Looks like Neil Young's action might hit Spotify far more than it will impact him.

Spotify Lost More Than $2 Billion in Market Value After Neil Young Pulled His Music Over Joe Rogan’s Podcast

Spotify's market cap fell $2.1 billion after Neil Young pulled his songs in protest of Joe Rogan's misinformation-spreading podcast.

variety.com

It will be very interesting to see how many music lovers leave Spotify and how many musicians will weigh up their options and decide to leave - I will be cancelling.

There's starting to be a bit of a stench about Spotify.

There are better places to get music.

 

[Val Keating]

Let us also not forget that in 1985 Neil Young blamed gay people for AIDs and said in an interview he didn't want them handling his potatoes at the supermarket, I'd quote his exact quote but it is ban worthy in this day and age. Is he a sensible person or does he just blow whichever way the popular wind blows?

That is a bit unkind, in the mid 80s I was more or less a socialist, we can have crazy ideas and move forward and grow. I am sure he was grateful that the world didn't excommunicate him for those regressive thoughts and he was allowed the opportunity to grow.

I don't watch the Joe Rogan podcast regularly, I will see the odd one like when he has Neil Degrasse Tyson, Steven Pinker or someone else of interest but don't generally watch the show. I think it is fine for Rogan to put on guys like McCullough or Malone but he doesn't have the toolbox to take in what they say and follow up with critical thinking follow up questions and as far as I am aware he hasn't invited any of the doctors or scientists who have eviscerated those guests and their opinions. I think he should do more to show more balanced sides when confronting serious current issues.

He does have people from the other side of the isle on, like Sanjay Gupta and Dr Rhonda Partrick for example, others too, but they don’t grab attention. People are drawn to negativity and outrage so I spose it makes sense.

He’s also got an open invitation to anyone who wants to debate McCullough.

 

[Val Keating]

 

[Ligma]

Joe Rogan talking about how he hates retail workers

 

[blackshadow]

The article doesn’t mention if their stock price went up after the Rogan signing. It does say that it was already sliding since January. Be interesting to see if there’s a overall net gain or loss since they signed Rogan.

Rogan contract began 1 September 2020.

Share price 1.9.2020 $284.65

Last share price $172.23

Highest price $300 - 2.2.2021

 

[blackshadow]

One more date.

Deal announced 19 May 2020 - share price 20 May $174.99

So share price almost the same as when Rogan's deal was announced.

 

[Val Keating]

Rogan contract began 1 September 2020.

Share price 1.9.2020 $284.65

Last share price $172.23

Highest price $300 - 2.2.2021

Need to go back to when the signing was announced. It was announced around May 2020

Joe Rogan Strikes an Exclusive, Multiyear Deal With Spotify (Published 2020)

The deal with Joe Rogan, a provocative podcast host with millions of listeners, is the latest move by Spotify to expand outside music.

www.nytimes.com

 

[ferball]

Do you have to pay to hear Rogan on Spotify?

 

[Val Keating]

Do you have to pay to hear Rogan on Spotify?

Nah.

 

[blackshadow]

Need to go back to when the signing was announced. It was announced around May 2020

Joe Rogan Strikes an Exclusive, Multiyear Deal With Spotify (Published 2020)

The deal with Joe Rogan, a provocative podcast host with millions of listeners, is the latest move by Spotify to expand outside music.

www.nytimes.com

See above.