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Yeah, and this is a bit of a problem, partisan politics has gone so far, can’t have the President taking bribes from foreign superpowers.
Days gone by things like that were called treason.

You didn't seem as upset about the previous president, and his family, doing the same or worse.
 
You didn't seem as upset about the previous president, and his family, doing the same or worse.
Direct consequence of Biden and democrat foreign policy lead to wars in Ukraine and Obamas pivot to the pacific, puts US in a collision course with China.
Picking fights with two nuclear armed nations is not a wise move is what I’ve been banging on about for close to a decade in here.

Trump is a side show, he has no power, he never did.
 
Direct consequence of Biden and democrat foreign policy lead to wars in Ukraine and Obamas pivot to the pacific, puts US in a collision course with China.
Picking fights with two nuclear armed nations is not a wise move is what I’ve been banging on about for close to a decade in here.

Trump is a side show, he has no power, he never did.

LOL, OK.

As I expected.
 

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Mr 6 just asked what evolution is, so we've just had two viewings of the Right Here, Right Now videoclip to explain.
Not going to show him the David Duchovny movie?
 

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Watching living standards decline in real time is a hell of a thing.

Lots of causes of this, notably deliberate massive underfunding of public services in both places, but a psychotic focus on imperial war doesn't help.



There’s a good vaccine for that isn’t there?
 
Professor of Pediatrics and Molecular Virology & Microbiology

And Bobby Kennedy's son wants to debate him on vaccines and if Hotez doesn't then he's "lost?

Real energy of whoever can throw a kettle over a pub being the real winner of the quiz.
 
And Bobby Kennedy's son wants to debate him on vaccines and if Hotez doesn't then he's "lost?

Real energy of whoever can throw a kettle over a pub being the real winner of the quiz.

Everyone knows Dr Fauci is the "main" guy when it comes to being the public face of Covid vaccines. But Fauci retired and also has been the target of horrible personal attacks and threats, so he's not a realistically 'gettable' target for any such debate. Also, anti-vax conspiracy guy RFK Jr literally wrote a book attacking Fauci, so... yeah.

Dr Hotez is perhaps the second best option though.

Among other things, he's spent his life working in the field of vaccines, and led the development of the Covid-19 "Corbevax" vaccine which has had 70 million doses distributed, and is not patented and is therefore 'free'. This is by-design, and Dr Hotez has many public statements to the effect that vaccines shouldn't ever be for-profit.

Because Dr Hotez has done lots of interviews spruiking the benefits of vaccines (not just Covid vaccines), and because Fauci is not a realistic target, he recently became the lightning rod for the anti-vaxx/5g/microchip type crowd.

That's who Dr Hotez is.
 

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Everyone knows Dr Fauci is the "main" guy when it comes to being the public face of Covid vaccines. But Fauci retired and also has been the target of horrible personal attacks and threats, so he's not a realistically 'gettable' target for any such debate. Also, anti-vax conspiracy guy RFK Jr literally wrote a book attacking Fauci, so... yeah.

Dr Hotez is perhaps the second best option though.

Among other things, he's spent his life working in the field of vaccines, and led the development of the Covid-19 "Corbevax" vaccine which has had 70 million doses distributed, and is not patented and is therefore 'free'. This is by-design, and Dr Hotez has many public statements to the effect that vaccines shouldn't ever be for-profit.

Because Dr Hotez has done lots of interviews spruiking the benefits of vaccines (not just Covid vaccines), and because Fauci is not a realistic target, he recently became the lightning rod for the anti-vaxx/5g/microchip type crowd.

That's who Dr Hotez is.

Cool, cheers.

So he's the new target/lightning rod for the anti-vax nutters.

One thing that fascinates me ... as someone who lives in a postcode that meant I did as much lockdown as is possible in this country ... is the way right wing Americans have convinced themselves they had any sort of real lockdowns at all, let alone anything like what we did.

COVID was always going to have immense political and economic effects we're only now seeing start to play out.

But being anti vaxxer gets you places these days, the UK doctor who kick started it all is getting busy with Elle McPherson from memory.
 
And Bobby Kennedy's son wants to debate him on vaccines and if Hotez doesn't then he's "lost?

Real energy of whoever can throw a kettle over a pub being the real winner of the quiz.

It came about after Hotez publicly criticised RFK’s appearance on Rogan’s podcast, so Rogan offered for him to to go on and debate him for $100k to charity of his choice (after that others pledged more money) but Hotez refused and asked Rogan if he could come on his show by himself.
 
Cool, cheers.

So he's the new target/lightning rod for the anti-vax nutters.

One thing that fascinates me ... as someone who lives in a postcode that meant I did as much lockdown as is possible in this country ... is the way right wing Americans have convinced themselves they had any sort of real lockdowns at all, let alone anything like what we did.

COVID was always going to have immense political and economic effects we're only now seeing start to play out.

But being anti vaxxer gets you places these days, the UK doctor who kick started it all is getting busy with Elle McPherson from memory.

I haven’t read RFK’s book but it’s mostly about what he did during the aids epidemic and other dodgy stuff.

Worth noting that Fauci hasn’t sued him, probably because of the evidence I spose.
 
Worth noting that Fauci hasn’t sued him, probably because of the evidence I spose.

Not targeting this at 'you' specifically, but just saying; I hate that whole "he hasn't sued him so it must be true!" narrative.

There's a whole heap of reasons why someone might not pursue legal action. Especially in Fauci's case where the dude seemingly just wants to retire quietly and hope the crazy people stop sending him death-threats.

Going to court against a Kennedy running for President would absolutely put a target on his back again.
 
It came about after Hotez publicly criticised RFK’s appearance on Rogan’s podcast, so Rogan offered for him to to go on and debate him for $100k to charity of his choice (after that others pledged more money) but Hotez refused and asked Rogan if he could come on his show by himself.

Same deal fundamentally though.
 
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