Play Nice Random Chat Thread VII

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Im talking actual power here not perceived.

Why don’t you want to know what █████ government requests got agreed to by twitter?


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[Tectonic]

█████ never had any power, did you how quickly everyone bailed from him? He never even had enough support from his own party let alone the current bureaucracy.

What you’re witnessing with the democrat party in America is the very definition of fascism, think big tech censorship, media collusion for Hillary, creating monopolies like ftx through governmental and judicial overreach. That money gets funnelled straight back to the democrats.
This is far more of a concern, thats actually happening, rather then the fake Russia gate pee pee story.

Btw did you know that gg reporting in Brazil basically got rid of bolsanaro?
Not bad for a rwnj

SBF admitted he donated to both parties

SBF Hid Republican Donations So Media Wouldn't 'Freak the Fuck Out' - Decrypt

Bankman-Fried became the poster boy for "effective altruism" but only donated publicly to Democratic candidates.

decrypt.co

 

[Val Keating]

So much for Twitter dying ey.

 

[Val Keating]

SBF admitted he donated to both parties

SBF Hid Republican Donations So Media Wouldn't 'Freak the Fuck Out' - Decrypt

Bankman-Fried became the poster boy for "effective altruism" but only donated publicly to Democratic candidates.

decrypt.co

You follow that crypto space a bit, why isn’t SBF in jail yet?

 

[Chadwiko]

What you’re witnessing with the democrat party in America is the very definition of fascism

Oh, please. What absolute nonsense.

This whole notion that the two parties in the US (or here in Australia) are 'mostly the same' is absolute nonsense.

Conservatives rail against marriage equality, abortion rights, climate change action, accessible healthcare and education, etc etc.

Are the Democrats in the US or Labor here in Australia perfect? Abso-flipping-lutely not. Far from it. Extremely far from it.

But to imply they are effectively "the same" as their conservative counter-parts is total hogwash.

 

[Tectonic]

You follow that crypto space a bit, why isn’t SBF in jail yet?

I imagine it would take awhile to put together evidence he mismanaged funds, and he has friends in high places too.

Also the SEC really drags it's feet with this sort of thing. They had been looking to investigate Do Kwon for about a year before Luna collapsed for his synthetic stocks being unlicensed securities, even subpoenaed him at a conference but either they don't know enough about the crypto space to move swiftly on fraud or they just don't care enough.


I did hear he's under observation from authorities in Bahamas and that the USA is looking to extradite though.

 

[DesertRoo]

Why don’t you want to know what █████ government requests got agreed to by twitter?


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Yes I’d like to know, but as I said, he’s out of power and he never really had any power to wield to begin with, he’s currently irrelevant to the topic of conversation.

 

[DesertRoo]

Oh, please. What absolute nonsense.

This whole notion that the two parties in the US (or here in Australia) are 'mostly the same' is absolute nonsense.

Conservatives rail against marriage equality, abortion rights, climate change action, accessible healthcare and education, etc etc.

Are the Democrats in the US or Labor here in Australia perfect? Abso-*ing-lutely not. Far from it. Extremely far from it.

But to imply they are effectively "the same" as their conservative counter-parts is total hogwash.

Rather then going of on a diatribe about values, I define fascism as the merging of state and private power to form an single authority,
This is what I’m referring to, this is what concerns me, because values change over time, even in between election cycles, power structures like this don’t and are incredibility hard to remove.

 

[Chadwiko]

Yes I’d like to know, but as I said, he’s out of power and he never really had any power to wield to begin with, he’s currently irrelevant to the topic of conversation.

If this is your benchmark then why do you care about Hunter Biden at all?

He's never been employed in the White House (unlike █████'s kids), and the 'rock bottom' of his drug addiction problem happened when his dad also wasn't in the White House.

I'm curious, as it seems like a double-standard to me?

 

[DesertRoo]

If this is your benchmark then why do you care about Hunter Biden at all?

He's never been employed in the White House (unlike █████'s kids), and the 'rock bottom' of his drug addiction problem happened when his dad also wasn't in the White House.

I'm curious, as it seems like a double-standard to me?

Because his business dealing overlap with Biden’s tenure as Vice President.
you know a little thing called corruption.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Because his business dealing overlap with Biden’s tenure as Vice President.
you know a little thing called corruption.

Are you curious about the money Trumps son in law gets from the Saudis?


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[DesertRoo]

Are you curious about the money Trumps son in law gets from the Saudis?


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Qataris?
Yes I’ve commented previously

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

, I define fascism as the merging of state and private power to form an single authority,

Ok, fair definition.

The Biden campaign got what they wanted.

So did the █████ government.

Why are you only focused on one?


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[Chadwiko]

Because his business dealing overlap with Biden’s tenure as Vice President.
you know a little thing called corruption.

Hunter Biden having a non-government job while his father is VP is corruption, but Ivanka and Jared literally enriching themselves while direct employees of the White House is fine?

 

[DesertRoo]

Ok, fair definition.

The Biden campaign got what they wanted.

So did the █████ government.

Why are you only focused on one?


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As I’ve said one multiple times,
█████ is irrelevant, I can go on, the guy was a failed toy boy to roy cohn, the first guy to big to fail, which in nuked any chance of capitalism working correctly.
He is a choud but he is also irrelevant.

Is it a defence mechanism that the moment you rightful criticise government and you start talking █████? The guy isn’t in power and I doubt he’ll be able to get anywhere near the wh again.

 

[Chadwiko]

As I’ve said one multiple times,
█████ is irrelevant, I can go on, the guy was a failed toy boy to roy cohn, the first guy to big to fail, which in nuked any chance of capitalism working correctly.
He is a choud but he is also irrelevant.

Is it a defence mechanism that the moment you rightful criticise government and you start talking █████? The guy isn’t in power and I doubt he’ll be able to get anywhere near the wh again.

█████ is way, way more relevant than Hunter Biden.
As are Ivanka and Jared.

 

[DesertRoo]

Hunter Biden having a non-government job while his father is VP is corruption, but Ivanka and Jared literally enriching themselves while direct employees of the White House is fine?

when have I said it’s fine?
You’re currently projecting imaginary tails

 

[Val Keating]

As I’ve said one multiple times,
█████ is irrelevant, I can go on, the guy was a failed toy boy to roy cohn, the first guy to big to fail, which in nuked any chance of capitalism working correctly.
He is a choud but he is also irrelevant.

Is it a defence mechanism that the moment you rightful criticise government and you start talking █████? The guy isn’t in power and I doubt he’ll be able to get anywhere near the wh again.

He won’t be irrelevant in the coming election. He’s a huge problem for the Republicans, because if he runs as an independent he’ll take a huge chunk of the Republican base with him.

 

[ferball]

I just really want to see behind the curtain.

Don't take mushrooms and ask that question of the universe.

 

[DesertRoo]

He won’t be irrelevant in the coming election. He’s a huge problem for the Republicans, because if he runs as an independent he’ll take a huge chunk of the Republican base with him.

This is true, what’s also true is he’d probably have to run as an independent as the republicans want to see the back of him.

 

[Val Keating]

Don't take mushrooms and ask that question of the universe.

But i want to meet the elves

 

[Val Keating]

This is true, what’s also true is he’d probably have to run as an independent as the republicans want to see the back of him.

Be interesting what they do. Ron DeSantis seems like the bloke they want. But Trumps going to be a problem.

 

[Chadwiko]

Speaking of Ron DeSantis, I found this funny today;.

 

[ferball]

If this is your benchmark then why do you care about Hunter Biden at all?

He's never been employed in the White House (unlike █████'s kids), and the 'rock bottom' of his drug addiction problem happened when his dad also wasn't in the White House.

I'm curious, as it seems like a double-standard to me?

In 2009 Julia Tymochenko, a leader of the Orange revolution, and one of the more believable anti corruption types in Ukraine, did a deal with putin to provide cheap Russian gas to Ukraine and onsell it to the EU. She also dealt with Ukraine's debts to Russia and did alot of work to harmonise relationships and bring both countries closer to the EU. The deal was the least corrupt gas deal in post soviet history between the two countries and directly cut out a gas coimpany run by other Ukrainian politicians that was rent charging off Russian gas imports since independence.

She ended up in jail after a pro Russian politician (one of the Victor Ys) whose family owned shares in one of those corrupt Ukraine gas rent seeking companies, came to power with the support of a US deep state operative, Paul Manafort (who is now in prison iirc.)

Then came Maidan and Joe and Hunter Biden both became very involved in Ukraine. Hunter Biden got a job with a very corrupt Russian gas company, run by a guy with possible probable mafia connections.

Fast forward to now and Russia is bombing the shit out of Ukraine, that gas deal that would have benefitted both countries and the EU is a distant memory. No gas travels thru Ukraine to the EU and Russia's other gas pipeline has been blown up, most likely by the US. After all Biden is on the record saying he would "end it" if Russian military crossed Ukraine's border.

Naturally the US has stepped in to supply Europes energy needs, which certainly helps their otherwise rooted fracking industry, and generally ****ed economy. There is alot more detail than I've gone into here too. if you go research all the names (and dates) invoolved in this saga over the last 15 years its full of all sort of rabbit holes.

Anyway...

This may all be coincidence but the whole situation needs transparancy and clarity about it because this war has had consequences across the globe and lots of people will suffer, and have suffered because of it.

Maybe this discussion is more appropriate in the Chessboard thread but the questions are still there wherever we post about it.

 

[ferball]

But i want to meet the elves

Then don't ask that question.

Terrence McKenna once said while talking about tripping balls on tryptamines, probably shrooms, wtte of:

Every now and then I say to it (Ie the mystery that heroic doses of tryptamines exposes you to)

' "What are you for yourself. I want to see what you are on your own terms not how you express yourself to me. And don't hold back."

Then after about 45 seconds with the rising organ music and the humungous velvet theatre curtains pulling back and the tentacles coming out I say:

"Okay that enough of that lets go back to the machine elves and whatnot." '

The elves are a cover for something else.

Naturally I read this quote and the first chance I got asked the same question, with the stipulation "Don't stop when I say stop its too intense."