Play Nice Random Chat Thread VII

[DesertRoo]

In 2009 Julia Tymochenko, a leader of the Orange revolution, and one of the more believable anti corruption types in Ukraine, did a deal with putin to provide cheap Russian gas to Ukraine and onsell it to the EU. She also dealt with Ukraine's debts to Russia and did alot of work to harmonise relationships and bring both countries closer to the EU. The deal was the least corrupt gas deal in post soviet history between the two countries and directly cut out a gas coimpany run by other Ukrainian politicians that was rent charging off Russian gas imports since independence.

She ended up in jail after a pro Russian politician (one of the Victor Ys) whose family owned shares in one of those corrupt Ukraine gas rent seeking companies, came to power with the support of a US deep state operative, Paul Manafort (who is now in prison iirc.)

Then came Maidan and Joe and Hunter Biden both became very involved in Ukraine. Hunter Biden got a job with a very corrupt Russian gas company, run by a guy with possible probable mafia connections.

Fast forward to now and Russia is bombing the s**t out of Ukraine, that gas deal that would have benefitted both countries and the EU is a distant memory. No gas travels thru Ukraine to the EU and Russia's other gas pipeline has been blown up, most likely by the US. After all Biden is on the record saying he would "end it" if Russian military crossed Ukraine's border.

Naturally the US has stepped in to supply Europes energy needs, which certainly helps their otherwise rooted fracking industry, and generally ****ed economy. There is alot more detail than I've gone into here too. if you go research all the names (and dates) invoolved in this saga over the last 15 years its full of all sort of rabbit holes.

Anyway...

This may all be coincidence but the whole situation needs transparancy and clarity about it because this war has had consequences across the globe and lots of people will suffer, and have suffered because of it.

Maybe this discussion is more appropriate in the Chessboard thread but the questions are still there wherever we post about it.

I looked at them and said, 'if the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money. Well son of a bitch, he got fired.

Btw this is real power, straight up gangsta levels. every person sitting in that room knew the story of Bursma and sat still and laughed

 

[ferball]

Yep, it all needs to be dragged out into the light.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

As I’ve said one multiple times,
█████ is irrelevant, I can go on, the guy was a failed toy boy to roy cohn, the first guy to big to fail, which in nuked any chance of capitalism working correctly.
He is a choud but he is also irrelevant.

Is it a defence mechanism that the moment you rightful criticise government and you start talking █████? The guy isn’t in power and I doubt he’ll be able to get anywhere near the wh again.

You’re wrong that he’s irrelevant, but let’s say he is.

Taibbis own docs showed twitter worked with the █████ government. Don’t you want to know about twitters role in that???

FWIW I don’t think that’s fascism. It’s overreach.

Fascism is right in front of our eyes. It’s █████ tweeting that their constitution should be suspended. It’s jan 6. It’s Tucker Carlson spouting literal fascist theory every night. It’s actual fascists and nazis pushing fascist and nazi agendas openly.




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[Tectonic]

Yep, it all needs to be dragged out into the light.

Spoiler

 

[DesertRoo]

You’re wrong that he’s irrelevant, but let’s say he is.

Taibbis own docs showed twitter worked with the █████ government. Don’t you want to know about twitters role in that???

FWIW I don’t think that’s fascism. It’s overreach.

Fascism is right in front of our eyes. It’s █████ tweeting that their constitution should be suspended. It’s jan 6. It’s Tucker Carlson spouting literal fascist theory every night. It’s actual fascists and nazis pushing fascist and nazi agendas openly.




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Considering Mussolini started off as a the editor of Avanti! and a lot of the political ideology of fascism can be traced back, the above is quiet humorous

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Considering Mussolini started off as a the editor of Avanti! and a lot of the political ideology of fascism can be traced back, the above is quiet humorous

So you don’t want to know more about a governments role in influencing media?

You only want to know about a Democrat campaign (non government) doing it?


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[Cyber_punk]

Random intense cravings for chicken salt and tim tams since yesterday.

Seriosuly how good is chicken salt with mash.

I started craving the Tim Tams after seeing it on a show. Haven't touched them for years because of the crushed bugs aspect of them but I caved today and got some

 

[DesertRoo]

So you don’t want to know more about a governments role in influencing media?

You only want to know about a Democrat campaign (non government) doing it?


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I’m confused, can you please explain the relevance the above has to Mussolini working at Avanti!?
That’s what you just quoted.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I’m confused, can you please explain the relevance the above has to Mussolini working at Avanti!?
That’s what you just quoted.

The fascism is staring you right in the face.

Get out of the right wing eco system. It’s frying your brain.


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[Flawed Genius]

Good dog

20-month old sheepdog named Casper fights off and kills 8 coyotes that attacked his flock, farmer says

A Georgia sheepdog is recovering at home after killing a pack of coyotes that attacked his owner's flock of sheep, farmer John Wierwiller said.

Casper, a 20-month old Great Pyrenees from Decatur, fought off a pack of coyotes who were threatening John Wierwiller's sheep farm, he said. The fight lasted longer than half an hour, left eight coyotes dead and bloodied Casper, with skin and part of his tail torn off, Wierwiller told Atlanta's WAGA-TV.

 

[DesertRoo]

The fascism is staring you right in the face.

Get out of the right wing eco system. It’s frying your brain.


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At this point you are just screaming buzz words without understanding their context, origin or meaning. It’s pretty hard to actually discuss the subject matter with you.
Ill answer your question from a few posts back out of good faith, but the repetition of this is becoming ad nauseum, hopefully we can move forward after this.
Yes, I care about governments role influencing the media. I have been talking about the subject in detail for well over a decade in here. I’ve been talking about it well before █████ came to office and I’ll be talking about it we’ll after he leaves.
You seem to be steely focused one side and anything negative you hear you respond with but █████.
The guy hasn’t been in the wh for two years. It’s bizarre, let it go.

 

[Tectonic]

Val Keating

 

[Val Keating]

Val Keating

How funny is it that he thinks it’s on his terms. Lol.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

At this point you are just screaming buzz words without understanding their context, origin or meaning. It’s pretty hard to actually discuss the subject matter with you.
Ill answer your question from a few posts back out of good faith, but the repetition of this is becoming ad nauseum, hopefully we can move forward after this.
Yes, I care about governments role influencing the media. I have been talking about the subject in detail for well over a decade in here. I’ve been talking about it well before █████ came to office and I’ll be talking about it we’ll after he leaves.
You seem to be steely focused one side and anything negative you hear you respond with but █████.
The guy hasn’t been in the wh for two years. It’s bizarre, let it go.

Well, that had to be dragged out of you. Considering it was an example of an actual government having requests granted by a social company.

This fits your definition of fascism more than the Biden one which you’ll squeal about for eternity.

And █████ is likely the next nominee, so he’s not irrelevant.

You really need to reflect on your own biases.


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[DesertRoo]

Well, that had to be dragged out of you. Considering it was an example of an actual government having requests granted by a social company.

This fits your definition of fascism more than the Biden one which you’ll squeal about for eternity.

And █████ is likely the next nominee, so he’s not irrelevant.

You really need to reflect on your own biases.


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You idiot, you didn’t have to drag anything out, I simply can’t be bothered going over old ground, it’s been repeated ad nauseum.
It has been done to death.

and what’s my definition of fascism?
I thought there was only one definition, specific to a political party in Italy. it’s not a buzz word for everything you don’t like.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

You idiot, you didn’t have to drag anything out, I simply can’t be bothered going over old ground, it’s been repeated ad nauseum.
It has been done to death.

and what’s my definition of fascism?
I thought there was only one definition, specific to a political party in Italy. it’s not a buzz word for everything you don’t like.

I’ll give you a hint. The Biden campaign requesting dick picks to be removed is not fascism. Neither is the █████ government getting stuff deleted. (Which your own biases make you very incurious about).

There is a growing fascist movement based on white nationalism and neo nazism right in front of our eyes. No need to go to your cooked sources to recognise it.


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[DesertRoo]

I’ll give you a hint. The Biden campaign requesting dick picks to be removed is not fascism. Neither is the █████ government getting stuff deleted. (Which your own biases make you very incurious about).

There is a growing fascist movement based on white nationalism and neo nazism right in front of our eyes. No need to go to your cooked sources to recognise it.


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You actually have no idea what you’re talking about.
Fascism was born out of a socialist statist, who became entrenched in adventurism after ww1. Mussolini no longer served the people who voted for him, once he took power.

It’s the same belief the state can fix everything, including business.

Now think very hard why I link the democratic socialist left, that’s charged to the right, as a fascist entity.

These words have meaning and need context.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

You actually have no idea what you’re talking about.
Fascism was born out of a socialist statist, who became entrenched in adventurism after ww1. Mussolini no longer served the people who voted for him, once he took power.

It’s the same believe the state can fix everything, including business.

Now think very hard why I link the democratic socialist left, that’s charged to the right, as a fascist entity.

These words have meaning and need context.

No champion, fascism is not just statism.

You’ve regurgitated rubbish on here over and over.

I can appreciate those who genuinely and consistently apply the both sides argument.

Have you posted about republican attempts to criminalise abortion federally? What about the weaponisation of ice under █████? The Muslim
Ban from Muslim countries █████ didn’t do business with? Using state government power to impose Christian nationalism and racist gerrymandering?

Have you ever said a ****ing word about this? One word?

No because your smooth brain is that fried from this disinformation ecosystem you haven’t got the cognitive skills to parse, you can’t step outside the echo chamber.

The entirety of the republicans and establishment dems are beholden to corporate interests. The progressive wing of the dems are fighting for union rights, abortion access, higher wages.

If you think that is fascist you’re one of the dumbest campaigners of all time.


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[Ligma]

How real are spirit boxes?

 

[DesertRoo]

No champion, fascism is not just statism.

You’ve regurgitated rubbish on here over and over.

I can appreciate those who genuinely and consistently apply the both sides argument.

Have you posted about republican attempts to criminalise abortion federally? What about the weaponisation of ice under █████? The Muslim
Ban from Muslim countries █████ didn’t do business with? Using state government power to impose Christian nationalism and racist gerrymandering?

Have you ever said a ******* word about this? One word?

No because your smooth brain is that fried from this disinformation ecosystem you haven’t got the cognitive skills to parse, you can’t step outside the echo chamber.

The entirety of the republicans and establishment dems are beholden to corporate interests. The progressive wing of the dems are fighting for union rights, abortion access, higher wages.

If you think that is fascist you’re one of the dumbest campaigners of all time.


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I will use original texts to back up my argument.
I hope you will do the same or apologise.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Apologise for what? That’s the Italian context.

Probably nothing in there about private people requesting a private media company delete duck pics either.

You’re horrendously biased. Get out of your echo chamber.


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[DesertRoo]

Apologise for what? That’s the Italian context.

Probably nothing in there about private people requesting a private media company delete duck pics either.

You’re horrendously biased. Get out of your echo chamber.


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Bahahaha now you’re trying to divorce Mussolini from fascism?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Bahahaha now you’re trying to divorce Mussolini from fascism?

No I’m saying it’s evolved.




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[DesertRoo]

No I’m saying it’s evolved.




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or you’re simply using the word and ideology in the incorrect context.
It’s ok to be misinformed. I hope our exchange over the last few pages makes a little more sense now.

 

[ferball]

Good dog

20-month old sheepdog named Casper fights off and kills 8 coyotes that attacked his flock, farmer says

Its not the size of the dog in the fight (tho it probably helped against a pack of coyote.)