Play Nice Random Chat Thread VII

[danj]

It’s a shame. Not just because of the money lost to charity, but because it would be good to hear out two intellectuals with opposing opinions in a long form conversation on the biggest platform in media.

Rogan’s not informed enough to counter expert opinions so having them on individually doesn’t do much good.

'Intellectuals' is a bit of a stretch, would like to see how either would fare in any Australian outback front bar on a Friday night

 

[Val Keating]

Not that it matters but $100,000 not $100,000,000

Lol. I can be such an idiot. I think it was the .00 that did it. I’ll go back and edit it.

You’re right though, it doesn’t matter.

 

[Val Keating]

'Intellectuals' is a bit of a stretch, would like to see how either would fare in any Australian outback front bar on a Friday night

Pretty sure they’d start talking in the bar of an Australian pub and someone would turn take a drag of their dart, say, “yeah whatever campaigner” and then down the rest of the stubby.

 

[Val Keating]

LOL he’s asking to go on the show but not debate RFKjnr.

 

[ferball]

Australia, the US and the UK have neofascist leanings these days.

All sides of politics and all levels of government. Its a stupid shell game pretending the neo fascist ball is under one cup when its under all three.

 

[Chadwiko]

Covid has broken alot of otherwise rational people.

I'm not sure Joe Rogan was ever "rational" but I agree covid definitely broke his meathead brain.

 

[ferball]

i'm not talking about Rogan or cookers.

 

[Chadwiko]

 

[Val Keating]

Is that true? My brother in law had his 5th booster and is currently crook as a dog.

The vaccine doesn’t stop the virus, it doesn’t prevent spread. That’s not the vaccines I grew up with.

 

[Chadwiko]

 

[Chadwiko]

 

[Bojan KantKick]

 

[czero]

Is that true? My brother in law had his 5th booster and is currently crook as a dog.

The vaccine doesn’t stop the virus, it doesn’t prevent spread. That’s not the vaccines I grew up with.

You are correct on all fronts there.

However the incredibly numerous studies show that it massively reduced people getting so sick they required hospitalisation, and the number of people that died from the virus. Which was the main problem, as you quickly find that you have about enough life saving devices and staff for a tiny fraction of the population. Being crook as a dog is not needing to be on a ventilator in hospital monitored around the clock.

If you just looked at raw stats, where you don't adjust for lockdowns or age groups or time between boosters etc.., you can pick out statistics that make it easy to think that might not be the case, however using the scientific method to study its effectiveness against the primary issue (hospitalisation numbers and deaths) they did a very good job.

Not to say they don't have issues, all vaccines do and these are particularly cutting edge genetic designs that give rise to absolutely valid concern.

Nothing stops these viruses once they go global, its about softening the landing.

 

[Dan]

At least he wasn’t accused of cat calling.

 

[ferball]

Is that true? My brother in law had his 5th booster and is currently crook as a dog.

The vaccine doesn’t stop the virus, it doesn’t prevent spread. That’s not the vaccines I grew up with.

The Pfizer vaccine is shit.

Even the AZ vaccine with the potential clot problems is a better vaccine but then you'd know that if you'd heard the people who worked on it talking about long term immunity, testing for memory cells after six months etc etc. You didn't cos they didn't get much airtime in Australia other than the abc science show.

But its understandable because all you probably ever heard was antibodies this antibodies that. Its completely natural for antibodies to drop over six months, what matters is memory cells that recognise the virus and kick start the immune response so antibody production kicks off again.

There are plenty of good vaccines in the world, we just got conned into buying too much of a shithouse one because our government was (and still is) run by morons or people who are compromised.

Anyone who pointed this out was likely to be tagged as an anti vaxxer by the Pfizer pr machine tho. Funny that company is basically an international drug dealer with the highest criminal fine in human history to its name but if they were illegal drug dealers producing something shitty an angry wholesale customer would have taken them out with the first six months of 2021.

 

[Chadwiko]

 

[Chadwiko]

 

[Val Keating]

He bought it on himself by posting about Rogan platforming doctors with opposing views to his, even though Rogan also had him on his podcast as well.

 

[Chadwiko]

He bought it on himself by posting about Rogan platforming doctors with opposing views to his, even though Rogan also had him on his podcast as well.

You are insane.

 

[Chadwiko]

"Vaccine expert and respected Doctor tweets refuting batshit anti-vax nonsense that was platformed on a podcast - therefore he deserves to be stalked and have nutjobs harrass him at his home".

What an absolutely insane position to take.

 

[ferball]

You are insane.

See this is what I mean by otherwise rational people losing it.

Val isn't insane he just has a different opinion to you. The real insanity is thinking someone with a different opinion is insane.

 

[DesertRoo]

Bit of perspective here Hotez was one of the main people on American tv, he was the guy in America that pushed lockdowns, censorship and mass vaccination of children, even if covid posed little or no risk. He has also been linked to gain of function research on Corona Virus, similar to the leak in Wuhan.
Yeah he ain’t going in a room with RFK Jnr.

 

[Chadwiko]

See this is what I mean by otherwise rational people losing it.

Val isn't insane he just has a different opinion to you. The real insanity is thinking someone with a different opinion is insane.

You think it's reasonable for people to be stalked/harrassed at their home?

Really?

 

[DesertRoo]

The Pfizer vaccine is s**t.

Even the AZ vaccine with the potential clot problems is a better vaccine but then you'd know that if you'd heard the people who worked on it talking about long term immunity, testing for memory cells after six months etc etc. You didn't cos they didn't get much airtime in Australia other than the abc science show.

But its understandable because all you probably ever heard was antibodies this antibodies that. Its completely natural for antibodies to drop over six months, what matters is memory cells that recognise the virus and kick start the immune response so antibody production kicks off again.

There are plenty of good vaccines in the world, we just got conned into buying too much of a shithouse one because our government was (and still is) run by morons or people who are compromised.

Anyone who pointed this out was likely to be tagged as an anti vaxxer by the Pfizer pr machine tho. Funny that company is basically an international drug dealer with the highest criminal fine in human history to its name but if they were illegal drug dealers producing something shitty an angry wholesale customer would have taken them out with the first six months of 2021.

Considering how they’re made, shit is an apt description.

 

[Tas]

Australia, the US and the UK have neofascist leanings these days.

All sides of politics and all levels of government. Its a stupid shell game pretending the neo fascist ball is under one cup when its under all three.

I think people who use the term neo-fascist to describe people like Joe Rogan or our government don't really know what that term means, it is crazy to even think it. Even One Nation isn't neo-fascist and they have barely any support because they are too nationalistic for our country's liking.