Play Nice Random Chat Thread VII

[Del191229]

I don't agree with your interpretation of Trump's quote. At the time, he and Epstein were clearly friends, so Trump wouldn't consciously out Epstein as a paedophile and possibly didn't even perceive it at the time. I interpret it as they both like younger women, with no suggestion that they're under-age younger (in that quote). So, it's not "by definition" proof that Trump isn't a paedo, though I otherwise agree that he probably isn't. He's 'just' a sleazebag rapist.

There's been lots and lots of women come forward about Trump - none of them underage at the time of the attacks/offences.

 

[Del191229]

There's some pretty groady images of trump floating around ... well there used to be. They were pretty suggestive of what was going on.

Its interesting he's been accused of pretty much every vile thing you can do, by very credible witnesses - rape, paying pr0n stars for sex, cheating on his pregnant wife etc etc.

But never underage stuff.

 

[Del191229]

AfD ad being shown in Germany.

 

[koshari]

Vale Sister Bernadette, Magda Davitt, Shuhada' Sadaqat.

 

[ferball]

I'm not accusing Gates of being a paedophile.

From what I've read about Epstein there weren't just underage girls at his houses/islands etc, there were adult women available too.

Gates was almost certainly availing himself of those delights.

I'm interested in what Epstein's "professional capacity" was though.

Some sort of money guy - Gates hardly short of those.

Ghislaine was the true brains of that deal, and I strongly suspect was doing it as part of an intelligence operation collecting blackmail

Have a look at where Epstein got his money from. Kind of weird.

 

[Val Keating]

I'm not accusing Gates of being a paedophile.

From what I've read about Epstein there weren't just underage girls at his houses/islands etc, there were adult women available too.

Gates was almost certainly availing himself of those delights.

I'm interested in what Epstein's "professional capacity" was though.

Some sort of money guy - Gates hardly short of those.

Ghislaine was the true brains of that deal, and I strongly suspect was doing it as part of an intelligence operation collecting blackmail

It’s funny how out of all these geniuses the only one I know of that realised Epstein was a fraud was Eric Weinstein, at first meeting no less.

 

[Mav]

Vale Sister Bernadette, Magda Davitt, Shuhada' Sadaqat.

Defined the anger and heart break of lost love for my generation in one of the best music vids ever. Then spent a life fighting not only her own demons but those of many others. A true legend. RIP.

 

[Val Keating]

Have a look at where Epstein got his money from. Kind of weird.

He was in with Madoff wasn’t he?

Edit- It was Steven Hoffenberg.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2022/08/26/hoffenberg-ponzi-epstein-dies/

 

[ferball]

Its interesting he's been accused of pretty much every vile thing you can do, by very credible witnesses - rape, paying pr0n stars for sex, cheating on his pregnant wife etc etc.

But never underage stuff.

Bowie and Jimmy page weren't villified for that stuff either. Richard Neville wrote about having sex with a 14 year old while she was tripping on acid in one of those editions of Oz. I dunno. The sexual revolution was happening. Old taboos were being broken, new ones not yet formed with those guys so maybe not quite as creepy.

The photos i saw the girls looked 14 - 18. He's groping them at various functions or whatever and it looks like a variety of ages. Some were black and white photos, some in colour. Some images are fully hands all over the girls, some they're sitting in his lap others just look creepy.

 

[ferball]

 

[Del191229]

Have a look at where Epstein got his money from. Kind of weird.

Didn't he get it from Ghislaine?

 

[ferball]

Didn't he get it from Ghislaine?

He's connected to alot of very rich men i'd barely heard of.

 

[koshari]

anyone else reckon 7800° was an under rated album?

 

[blackshadow]

anyone else reckon 7800° was an under rated album?

No!

 

[Engimal v3]

It’s funny how out of all these geniuses the only one I know of that realised Epstein was a fraud was Eric Weinstein, at first meeting no less.

Game recognises game

 

[koshari]

No!

good, then that can be my point of difference.

 

[Del191229]

He's connected to alot of very rich men i'd barely heard of.

Ghislaine is Mossad right ...

 

[DesertRoo]

Isn't the far more likely suggestion that she had the money that old man had looted from the Mirror pension funds, which is how Epstein came into the picture - she needed him to wash/cover it?

Maxwell fortune was started off by the British taxpayer giving money for scientific papers being published, Maxwell was smart enough to realise it was a never ending tap, so he quickly went about buying up all of the science journals and a publishing as many articles as posible.

That is different from Gis links with the Gates.

The Cover-Up Continues: The Truth About Bill Gates, Microsoft, and Jeffrey Epstein

While more revelations about the Bill Gates–Jeffrey Epstein relationship have begun trickling out following the Gates’s divorce announcement, the strong evidence pointing to their relationship beginning decades prior to 2011 continues to be covered up by the media—not necessarily to protect Bill...

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And Maxwell/Epstein we’re about selling spyware, so it’s no surprise their links to Microsoft founder. It’s safe to say the blackmail was only a wry small part for all these players. As much as it’s a crime, I’d rather know why/what people were blackmailed.

 

[DesertRoo]

Ghislaine is Mossad right ...

Mossad like cia just gave backing by the state, they were always working for individuals.

 

[Val Keating]

Game recognises game

Probably more that Eric is a mathematician that did some finance shit for Peter Theil so he knew he was full of shit.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

There's been lots and lots of women come forward about Trump - none of them underage at the time of the attacks/offences.

Agree, I'm just saying that the quote you used doesn't constitute proof.

 

[DesertRoo]

Its interesting he's been accused of pretty much every vile thing you can do, by very credible witnesses - rape, paying pr0n stars for sex, cheating on his pregnant wife etc etc.

But never underage stuff.

Trumps mentor Roy Cohn was, he certainly rolls around in bad company..

The only whiff of hope I get from trump is he went after Epistein, but it’s probably Just the old mafia tradition of ratting on your competition.

 

[ferball]

Ghislaine is Mossad right ...

Yeah ... well i presume so given her dad.

 

[ferball]

He was in with Madoff wasn’t he?

Edit- It was Steven Hoffenberg.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2022/08/26/hoffenberg-ponzi-epstein-dies/

Epstein was introduced to Hoffenburg (or vice versa) by one of the people who arranged the All Yo Mamas arms deal. (Its actually known as the Al-Yamama arms deal presumably cos that's where it was negotiated or signed.)

He worked with Larry Fink at First Boston before that. They were in the so called leadership group but in different departments. Someone suggested they may have had some connection to the Savings and Loan Crisis in the US in the 1980s.

Its amazing the amount of people Epstein is connected to and then if you add the people he was vaguely associated with ... its like he was one of the most networked people on earth.

 

[Del191229]

Agree, I'm just saying that the quote you used doesn't constitute proof.

Wasn't suggesting it was "proof", I've always just found it very very interesting, like he's delineating a divide between himself an Epstein ... we're both really similar, we like parties, we love beautiful women, but he likes them a lot younger.