Play Nice Random Chat Thread VII

[Ligma]

I'm sorry but diagnoses for a condition like this doubling in five years is just implausible.

I have no doubt increased/improved methods are behind SOME of them, but this is also largely a social phenomenon, with myriad drivers and contributors.

And yes, part of it is ADHD becoming "fashionable" as a way for middle class people in their mid to late 30s finding way to justify them not "fulfilling" the ability they were told they had as kids or their own expectations not being met.

Its the predictable end result of a generation of kids being assured they are special" or "gifted" and "can do whatever they want to do".

Because when it turns out hey aren't particularly special and that what they defined as "success" hasn't materialised, they need to find a REASON, and in our pathologised culture where pharma companies are desperate to sell you a meds for anything, that's very easily packaged up as a CONDITION which PREVENTED you becoming an astronaut or marine biologist.

ADHD scripts and diagnoses more than double in five years

More than 400,000 people are taking drugs for the common neurodevelopmental disorder, as awareness rises among doctors and the public.

www.theage.com.au

A result of capitalism measuring success with material assets.

I don’t function like the typical human, i do not need or want medication.

I am still an academic weapon without it.

 

[Del191229]

The Warlord
When you know, you know..

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/nationwide-shortage-aussie-reveals-doctors-terrifying-admission/news-story/69377359ac1765f950e283db450c6870

This is it, people who do need it are being imperilled by all the diagnoses for folks who frankly don't.

 

[Del191229]

A result of capitalism measuring success with material assets.

I don’t function like the typical human, i do not need or want medication.

I am still an academic weapon without it.

Exactly!

 

[Ligma]

Exactly!

Hyper focus is a wonderful thing.

Did my essay on immigration detention centres in 3 days isn’t due til the 29th

 

[ferball]

This is it, people who do need it are being imperilled by all the diagnoses for folks who frankly don't.

My eldest daughter uses Vyvanse. If she doesn't have her daily medication her teachers will know within fifteen minutes cos she flat out refuses to have anything to do with school or with them telling her what to do.

 

[Del191229]

My eldest daughter uses Vyvanse. If she doesn't have her daily medication her teachers will know within fifteen minutes cos she flat out refuses to have anything to do with school or with them telling her what to do.

Yep, and her supply is now being imperilled.

 

[danj]

Hyper focus is a wonderful thing.

Did my essay on immigration detention centres in 3 days isn’t due til the 29th

Lucky you weren’t in one could have taken 3 years

 

[ferball]

Yep, and her supply is now being imperilled.

I know. I'd like to know more about why this situation is happening.

 

[Del191229]

I know. I'd like to know more about why this situation is happening.

This was a good read

A ‘perfect storm’ led to an ADHD medication shortage. Here’s why

A shortage affecting Adderall has now led to intermittent supply of other ADHD drugs, including the commonly prescribed methylphenidate, often known by brand names Ritalin or Concerta.

www.pbs.org

 

[Del191229]

So two posh idiots - supported by the Victorian Greens aka the party for posh idiots who think identity politics = progressive politics - have just blown up Victoria and all the other state's revenue raising capacity.

Good work Green morons, that's not at all goinbg to blow up in your faces when we have another decade plus of hard right Coalition rule in Canberra and the states are ever more reliant on the Commonwealth for funding.

‘Caught everyone off guard’: High Court zaps state electric vehicle tax

The court ruled Victoria’s levy on electric vehicles is unconstitutional, in a landmark judgment that means other states also face future budget problems.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Del191229]

This one is fascinating ferball - have the orca in South Africa taught local whales how to hunt great white sharks for their livers?

Spoiler: Great white shark story

Mystery surrounds creature responsible for great white shark death on Portland beach

Spoiler: Great white shark story

Researchers are “looking for the pieces of the puzzle” to solve the mystery of the half-eaten great white shark that washed ashore near Portland.
Lauren Hutchinson

2 min read
October 19, 2023 - 8:56AM

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It’s suspected the shark may have been mauled by a pod of killer whales. Picture: Neil Tokin

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Locals believe a pod of killer whales were responsible for the death of a half-eaten great white shark which was found washed ashore on a beach in Victoria’s southwest.
Portland residents discovered the chewed-up carcass of the great white on the sand at Bridgewater beach on Monday, a day after orca whales were spotted circling in nearby waters.
Local surfer Mark Berry, who stumbled across the shark on his way to the surf, said only a whale could be responsible for such a large bite.
“It was such a big shark, I doubt anything else would have happened to it,” Mr Berry said.
“We are guessing orcas may have preyed upon it; there were orcas sighted in the area only a day or two before,” he said.

A great white washed up on Bridgewater beach near Portland. Picture: Facebook/mark Berry
“It’s quite bizarre. I’ve never seen anything like this before and I’ve been surfing here for 50 years.
“It was a pretty big shark, half of it had been eaten.”
Portland resident Allen McCauley said he watched as orcas circled at Bridgewater Bay, just west of Portland for two and a half hours on Sunday.
“We thought they might have been feeding on some salmon but, after seeing the photo of the shark, we realised what might have happened,” he said.

While locals are convinced they know what took down the great white, marine experts say there is more killer creatures than just orcas.
Research officer at the Dolphin Research Institute, David Donnelly, said in his 20 years of research, he’s never heard of an orca attacking a great white shark.
Mr Donnelly said they were still in investigating the bizarre discovery, and did not want to jump to any conclusions before the complete scientific process has taken place.
“We are just looking for those pieces of the puzzle that will let us know that this is a certainty,” said Mr Donnelly.
“There’s more than killer whales in the ocean, there’s a lot of creatures out there.”
Despite the prospect of the apex predators surfacing near his local swimming haunt, Mr McCauley said he was not deterred from getting back in the water.
“I swim every morning at Nuns Beach in town and we are still all going in,” he said.
Officers from the Victorian Fisheries Authority (VFA) have since taken the carcass to conduct further testing to determine what really happened to the shark.

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[danj]

So two posh idiots - supported by the Victorian Greens aka the party for posh idiots who think identity politics = progressive politics - have just blown up Victoria and all the other state's revenue raising capacity.

Good work Green morons, that's not at all goinbg to blow up in your faces when we have another decade plus of hard right Coalition rule in Canberra and the states are ever more reliant on the Commonwealth for funding.

‘Caught everyone off guard’: High Court zaps state electric vehicle tax

The court ruled Victoria’s levy on electric vehicles is unconstitutional, in a landmark judgment that means other states also face future budget problems.

www.theage.com.au

I know a little about this issue. The biggest problem isn’t a tax it’s when it’s applied and how it’s applied. This type of tax only makes sense once fuel standards are introduced and the diesel rebate for industry and agriculture is abolished. You might also want to consider taxing heavy transport on our roads at an appropriate rate, your average 18 wheeler causes thousands of times more wear to our roads than your average motor vehicle yet they are lightly taxed for the damage they cause and the subsequent cost to tax payers to maintain and repair our roads. I’m all for an EV tax but it has to be equitably.

 

[Del191229]

I know a little about this issue. The biggest problem isn’t a tax it’s when it’s applied and how it’s applied. This type of tax only makes sense once fuel standards are introduced and the diesel rebate for industry and agriculture is abolished. You might also want to consider taxing heavy transport on our roads at an appropriate rate, your average 18 wheeler causes thousands of times more wear to our roads than your average motor vehicle yet they are lightly taxed for the damage they cause and the subsequent cost to tax payers to maintain and repair our roads. I’m all for an EV tax but it has to be equitably.

No tax is perfect, there's always winners and losers.

But the upshot of this one is that some rich people who can afford EVs didn't want to have to pay a small amount of tax and ran off to the Paedophile's Friend aka the High Court, which only rich people can do.

And in the process the High Court - which seems to think it is superior to the legislatures these days - has blown up the ability of states to raise revenue independent of the Commonwealth.

It is a terrible judgement by the HCA, and terribly short sighted politics frm the idiot Greens, who promise the world at policy level but just blew up their ability to fund anything with a stupid party political stunt coz they got driven nuts by Andrews cutting their lunch.

 

[Del191229]

Yay higher rego for everyone because some poshos had a sook about having to pay their fair share.

And the idiot Greens supported it.

 

[Forever North]

Seems any issue, problem, oversight, mistake, miscalculation the state government encounters nowdays the solution seems to be another tax, charge, levy, money grab etc.

 

[koshari]

Yay higher rego for everyone because some poshos had a sook about having to pay their fair share.

And the idiot Greens supported it.

i think the only fair way going forward is to abolish the fuel excise and implement a rego system that charges for mileage times vehicle weight across the board, the problem with getting there is vehicle rego is a state tax and excise federal. the actual rego componant id tiny when you decouple the 3rd party insurance, at least in victoria.

 

[koshari]

Seems any issue, problem, oversight, mistake, miscalculation the state government encounters nowdays the solution seems to be another tax, charge, levy, money grab etc.

you cant maintain roads without a user tax. the issue is how its raised.

 

[Del191229]

Seems any issue, problem, oversight, mistake, miscalculation the state government encounters nowdays the solution seems to be another tax, charge, levy, money grab etc.

How are governments ever meant to do anything if cynical opposition parties like the Greens wilfully undermine sensible attempts at policy reform then rush off to unelected courts who appear to think they are superior to legislatures?

 

[Del191229]

i think the only fair way going forward is to abolish the fuel excise and implement a rego system that charges for mileage times vehicle weight across the board, the problem with getting there is vehicle rego is a state tax and excise federal. the actual rego componant id tiny when you decouple the 3rd party insurance, at least in victoria.

States USED to have petrol excise too, until again the Paedophile's Friend in Canberra removed that too.

Its fiendishly difficult and the government tried to fix it - noting other states wanted to copy the policy.

But some rich sooks could pay their way to the HCA and killed it.

Great result.

 

[Disco Dew]

the 60tonner set up at work yesterday, very impressive machine,

Loy yang?

 

[William Caresser]

The Commonwealth was always likely to want to introduce an excise tax on EV usage at some stage as its revenues from the fuel (petrol and diesel) excise started to decline. No matter which party was in power, it would've said, "no states, you can't charge an excise on usage and you knew that - but you introduced the legislation anyway. We'll now be introducing an EV excise to replace the hole left in the budget from the decline in fuel excise - repeal yours or we'll see you in court."

 

[Del191229]

The Commonwealth was always likely to want to introduce an excise tax on EV usage at some stage as its revenues from the fuel (petrol and diesel) excise started to decline. No matter which party was in power, it would've said, "no states, you can't charge an excise on usage and you knew that - but you introduced the legislation anyway. We'll now be introducing an EV excise to replace the hole left in the budget from the decline in fuel excise - repeal yours or we'll see you in court."

Hmmm, I don't know about that.

Any Labor Govt that tried it would be destroyed by a completely bad faith Coalition scare campaign.

And Coalition governments of late haven't shown any ability or inclination for that kind of progressive detailed policy reform.

I agree that sooner or later that revenue gap would need to be filledm but a Coalition govt would be far more likely to fill it elsewhere imo.

 

[DesertRoo]

No tax is perfect, there's always winners and losers.

But the upshot of this one is that some rich people who can afford EVs didn't want to have to pay a small amount of tax and ran off to the Paedophile's Friend aka the High Court, which only rich people can do.

And in the process the High Court - which seems to think it is superior to the legislatures these days - has blown up the ability of states to raise revenue independent of the Commonwealth.

It is a terrible judgement by the HCA, and terribly short sighted politics frm the idiot Greens, who promise the world at policy level but just blew up their ability to fund anything with a stupid party political stunt coz they got driven nuts by Andrews cutting their lunch.

Nah, I don’t like limiting movement, never liked the model rich can drive everywhere and if you’re stuck in the outer suburbs you have to pay more model.

Victorian Government isn’t exactly the epitome of budgetary spending either, they don’t need more money.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Nah, I don’t like limiting movement, never liked the model rich can drive everywhere and if you’re stuck in the outer suburbs you have to pay more model.

Victorian Government isn’t exactly the epitome of budgetary spending either, they don’t need more money.

Yeah, not much budgetary spending, Dan just splashed on a couple of big ticket items, such as half a billion for NOT hosting the Commonwealth Games, and over a billion for NOT having an east-west link road.

 

[DesertRoo]

Yeah, not much budgetary spending, Dan just splashed on a couple of big ticket items, such as half a billion for NOT hosting the Commonwealth Games, and over a billion for NOT having an east-west link road.

Lol, I wish I was in an industry where you could blow half a billion on not delivering and get promoted.