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I thought you didn't initiate attacks or play the man.

Sorry, is this the first post in a new conversation? Or are we changing the definition of the word "initiate"?

Yes, one of the reasons the Zionist movement got so much support from the UK establishment was how popular that idea was among the UK establishment even before the 20th century. Being the racist scum they were, no doubt they were keen to get those pesky Jewish people out of Europe, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about a definite change in tone across the internet from around 2007.

What I'm talking about was the conspiracy the Koch brothers engaged in with elements of right wing media to use the Tea party movement to deny Obama access to government funds after the 2010 mid terms.

Conservatives working to stymy Democrats is nothing new. Reagan conspired to ensure the Iranian hostages weren't released while Carter was in the White House, and turned it into a wedge issue that won him the Presidency. Then he traded weapons in the Iran-Contra affair. Again, none of this is new.

Hell, circling back to hip-hop, one of my fav tracks by one of my fav artists delves into this nicely;



No you don't.

(Ignoring all the instances where I do) Sure okay.

I got that understanding from you and another poster on this page of this thread:


A) Did you actually read that page? Because it wasn't just me and "another poster", there were several of us involved.
B) If you had read it, you wouldn't need me to explain to you how Warlord absolutely misrepresented what happened
C) I don't see any "tantrums" on that page?

Credit where its due hey... lol.

Are you claiming you're responsible for the improvement in quality of the stuff for younger kids? Cos it certainly reads that way.

Hahahahahahahahaha get ****ed there is NO WAY you actually think that's what I was saying. :tearsofjoy:
And that is the perfect example of why you're such a snake. You disingenuously interpret and twist words to try and push false narratives that suit your own agenda. And this is why engaging with you on the issues is often a pointless endeavour. This right here.
Of course I'm not taking credit. I'm specifically saying credit to Jen Watt. You idiot. Hahahahahahaha.
 
Props for the Killer Mike track. Its a good'un.

He was arrested after winning a bunch grammys last year. Because he refused to endorse Biden beat up a security guard. ... probably serves him right for accepting grammys.
 

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Sorry, is this the first post in a new conversation? Or are we changing the definition of the word "initiate"?

This conversation has been ongoing forever. Since you came into the chessboard thread and starting paying out on people for having a different opinion.

Conservatives working to stymy Democrats is nothing new. Reagan conspired to ensure the Iranian hostages weren't released while Carter was in the White House, and turned it into a wedge issue that won him the Presidency. Then he traded weapons in the Iran-Contra affair. Again, none of this is new.

Its funny how the US used Israel to deliver those weapons hey. And that the contras were all connected to coke suppliers.

These are political conspiracies, like the one the Koch brothers engaged in that was exposed by Mother Jones.

You probably laugh at the idea that idea that there wouldn't have been a 9/11 Commission or any investigation without the 9/11 truth movement but its another fact. Now the term truther is used to signify someone who peddles bullshit.
(Ignoring all the instances where I do) Sure okay.

Still waiting for you to read that article.

A) Did you actually read that page? Because it wasn't just me and "another poster", there were several of us involved.
B) If you had read it, you wouldn't need me to explain to you how Warlord absolutely misrepresented what happened
C) I don't see any "tantrums" on that page?

I don't care what Warlord said, I read it for myself. You were talking to a journalist cos you were pissed off about losing your seat. That's a tantrum.

Hahahahahahahahaha get ****ed there is NO WAY you actually think that's what I was saying. :tearsofjoy:
And that is the perfect example of why you're such a snake. You disingenuously interpret and twist words to try and push false narratives that suit your own agenda. And this is why engaging with you on the issues is often a pointless endeavour. This right here.
Of course I'm not taking credit. I'm specifically saying credit to Jen Watt. You idiot. Hahahahahahaha.

I'm just gonna repost what you typed.

Credit where it's due; last year I spoke with Jen Watt about improving the range of guernseys and merch for younger kids, and Puma and the club have absolutely delivered this year.

You didn't need to insert yourself into the very start of that narrative, but you did. Its all about you Chad. Everything is always all about you.
 
This conversation has been ongoing forever. Since you came into the chessboard thread and starting paying out on people for having a different opinion.

Well firstly... no. This isn't one continous conversation obviously.

Secondly, that "different opinion", as you put it, is the silly belief shared amongst the clique that responsibility/blame for the Russian invasion of Ukraine belongs to some amorphous combo of Biden/America/NATO/"the West"/EU/UK/Zelenskyy... instead of Putin and Russia.

And I never attacked or "paying out on people" over it until y'all started abusing me for disagreeing with you, calling me a neo-con and a nazi-sympathiser etc. So no... nice try.


You probably laugh at the idea that idea that there wouldn't have been a 9/11 Commission or any investigation without the 9/11 truth movement but its another fact. Now the term truther is used to signify someone who peddles bullshit.

Well... you're sorta correct about the origins of the 9/11 commission, but also sorta wrong to imply that the 9/11 "truthers" weren't a bunch of groups peddling bullshit.

For posterity and just so we're on the same page;
  • 9/11 was not an inside job
  • Thermite was not involved
  • Missiles were not involved
  • The Twin Towers were not demolished
  • WTC 7 was not demolished
  • Bin Laden was not a CIA agent
  • Al Qaeda was responsible

Still waiting for you to read that article.

I told you at the time I read it, but wasn't going to engage with you until you watched that video I linked you. This isn't a one way street buddy.

I don't care what Warlord said, I read it for myself. You were talking to a journalist cos you were pissed off about losing your seat. That's a tantrum.

Yeah see you say you read it for yourself... but then you miss the entire point, which leaves me skeptical that you know how to read.

For summary, again, as this is like the millionth time I've gone over this in an effort to combat Warlord's deliberate lies about the situation;

1) The club emailed affected members and told us that all Marvel Home teams were losing the same seats due to an AFL decision around the Marvel Stadium redevelopment (Ess/Car/WB/StK).
2) Because North were the first of the Marvel clubs to get their membership packages out, this seemed potentially newsworthy, so I reached out to a journo I'd worked with on a few things previously to give him the heads up. It was not a "tantrum about losing my seat".
3) The journo discovered that no other Marvel Stadium clubs were actually reallocating the seats, and that this was a specific NMFC decision. It was at this point the journo's involvement ended because it was no longer a newsworthy issue of a sweeping AFL change impacting multiple clubs.
4) Affected members then sought clarification from the club who admitted (somewhat sheepishly) that their original explanation for the rationale of the change was somewhat less than accurate, and that actually they were turning the impacted bays into corporate seating.

There was never a "tantrum" involved and if the club had just said upfront that they were reallocating the seating (and not the AFL) I never would have contacted the journo.

This is all verfiable for yourself in that thread that you said you read...

I'm just gonna repost what you typed.

Credit where it's due; last year I spoke with Jen Watt about improving the range of guernseys and merch for younger kids, and Puma and the club have absolutely delivered this year.

You didn't need to insert yourself into the very start of that narrative, but you did. Its all about you Chad. Everything is always all about you.

Hahahaha that is the absolute most ridiculously petty way to interpret that sentence, and again just goes to show you approach these things through the lens of enormous bias and malice. Hahahahahaha.
 
Well firstly... no. This isn't one continous conversation obviously.

Secondly, that "different opinion", as you put it, is the silly belief shared amongst the clique that responsibility/blame for the Russian invasion of Ukraine belongs to some amorphous combo of Biden/America/NATO/"the West"/EU/UK/Zelenskyy... instead of Putin and Russia.

And I never attacked or "paying out on people" over it until y'all started abusing me for disagreeing with you, calling me a neo-con and a nazi-sympathiser etc. So no... nice try.

That's not how I remember it. Even now you're not being fair with about what we were talking about.


Well... you're sorta correct about the origins of the 9/11 commission, but also sorta wrong to imply that the 9/11 "truthers" weren't a bunch of groups peddling bullshit.

I've got a mate who coined the term 9/11 truth so nothing you say about truthers will come close to what he says about them.

For posterity and just so we're on the same page;
  • 9/11 was not an inside job
  • Thermite was not involved
  • Missiles were not involved
  • Al Qaeda was responsible

Don't care. If all the truthers had spent 2004 and 2005 focusing on Bush government over reach and crimes instead of trying to prove 9/11 was an inside job the US would be a very different place by now. I've removed the comments I disagree with.

Its pretty obvious the buildings you referred to were demolished in the attack. After all they collapsed. The idea they were some sort of controlled demolition or even fell into their own footprint is demonstrably false.

As for Bin Laden neither you or I know anything his relationship with the US or US intelligence agencies during the 80s and very early 90s.

I told you at the time I read it, but wasn't going to engage with you until you watched that video I linked you. This isn't a one way street buddy.

What video is this. I said I'd read a transcript but I don't watch videos, I prefer to read things. That wasn't the first time either. You have constantly refused to watch vids I flagged just for you cos I hoped you'd be able to engage in a sensible discussion about them. Instead you said they were Maga rubbish despite being produced by lefties like the More perfect Union people and Kyle Kruszelnicki or whatever his name is.

Yeah see you say you read it for yourself... but then you miss the entire point, which leaves me skeptical that you know how to read.

For summary, again, as this is like the millionth time I've gone over this in an effort to combat Warlord's deliberate lies about the situation;

1) The club emailed affected members and told us that all Marvel Home teams were losing the same seats due to an AFL decision around the Marvel Stadium redevelopment (Ess/Car/WB/StK).
2) Because North were the first of the Marvel clubs to get their membership packages out, this seemed potentially newsworthy, so I reached out to a journo I'd worked with on a few things previously to give him the heads up. It was not a "tantrum about losing my seat".
3) The journo discovered that no other Marvel Stadium clubs were actually reallocating the seats, and that this was a specific NMFC decision. It was at this point the journo's involvement ended because it was no longer a newsworthy issue of a sweeping AFL change impacting multiple clubs.
4) Affected members then sought clarification from the club who admitted (somewhat sheepishly) that their original explanation for the rationale of the change was somewhat less than accurate, and that actually they were turning the impacted bays into corporate seating.

There was never a "tantrum" involved and if the club had just said upfront that they were reallocating the seating (and not the AFL) I never would have contacted the journo.

This is all verfiable for yourself in that thread that you said you read...

I agree with most of that - tldr ... you had a tantrum and contacted a journo.

Hahahaha that is the absolute most ridiculously petty way to interpret that sentence, and again just goes to show you approach these things through the lens of enormous bias and malice. Hahahahahaha.

Unlike you I'm genuinely laughing at this ... something about self awareness.

Well done tho, for whatever role you had in improving the quality of that merch.
 
BTW Chad, I've repeatedly read and responded to articles you've posted including going thru them paragraph by paragraph and giving my thoughts and opinions. To which you rarely if ever respond.

Then you come out with this "watch this video or I won't respond" crap and wonder why your posting generates hostility among other posters. Captain lockthread self awareness.
 
That's not how I remember it. Even now you're not being fair with about what we were talking about.

Really? You don't think I'm being 'fair'? Which part do you disagree with specifically?

I'm curious.

I've got a mate who coined the term 9/11 truth so nothing you say about truthers will come close to what he says about them.

...okay? Cool story...


I've removed the comments I disagree with.

Its pretty obvious the buildings you referred to were demolished in the attack. After all they collapsed. The idea they were some sort of controlled demolition or even fell into their own footprint is demonstrably false.

I'm confused what you're stating here.

My assertion was that the Twin Towers/WTC 7 were not brought down by a demolition, but by the planes.
9/11 Truthers regularly posit that there were pre-planted demolition charges in the buildings (especially WTC 7) that "proves" it was an inside job/conspiracy/etc. I'm saying I disagree. What's your position?

As for Bin Laden neither you or I know anything his relationship with the US or US intelligence agencies during the 80s and very early 90s.

A popular conspiracy among 9/11 Truthers is that Bin Laden was working for the CIA at the time of the attacks, and that it was all part of a CIA plot/deep state plot/etc. I'm saying I disagree.

I agree with most of that - tldr ... you had a tantrum and contacted a journo.

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BTW Chad, I've repeatedly read and responded to articles you've posted including going thru them paragraph by paragraph and giving my thoughts and opinions. To which you rarely if ever respond.

Then you come out with this "watch this video or I won't respond" crap and wonder why your posting generates hostility among other posters. Captain lockthread self awareness.

I posted the video to watch on Dec 15;

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You didn't watch it, then a full day and a half later you posted an article with the nonsense preamble "If you are a decent person you'll read all of it and respond to the substance"...
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I read your article the night you linked it. But considering I posted the video first, which you ignored because "I don't like to watch videos", I didn't feel especially compelled to honour your request about responding to the article.

We aren't just NPCs here to serve your whims, ferball. Dialogue is not a one-way street. You don't get to ignore what you don't like and then demand people respond to things you deem worthy of discussion. That's not how society works lol.
 

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Genuine question - what are any of you getting out of this?

You're not going to convince the other side and neither of you seem willing to budge an inch. These personal attacks aren't you, and if your aim is to show that there's an opposing opinion to the side you're disagreeing with, speaking this poorly to each other doesn't serve that end.

You're all kind people generally on this forum. And you probably agree on more things with each other than each of you would with your next door neighbours.

Don't let rage and anger make you someone you're not.
 
Genuine question - what are any of you getting out of this?

You're not going to convince the other side and neither of you seem willing to budge an inch. These personal attacks aren't you, and if your aim is to show that there's an opposing opinion to the side you're disagreeing with, speaking this poorly to each other doesn't serve that end.

You're all kind people generally on this forum. And you probably agree on more things with each other than each of you would with your next door neighbours.

Don't let rage and anger make you someone you're not.
I think it's just grumpy old men being grumpy old men.

I just wish there was an appropriate thread where we could all have it out.
 
Genuine question - what are any of you getting out of this?

Me personally? I am defending myself.

I repeatedly say that I don't start any of these tete-a-tetes, and by way of an example/proof, here's how the silliness of the last couple of days started. You tell me what I did wrong here 😂;

The entire (ridiculous) issue of hip-hop came out of nowhere when Val said that I know nothing about hip-hop. (The only context was that I mentioned Iyah May is pushing a deliberate cancel-culture angle to promote herself. Which is an undeniable fact). Val said "captain lockthread knows nothing about hip-hop" or something to that effect.

I said I do... because I do.

ferball then jumped on and attacked me for calling an artist called Immortal Technique a "conspiracy theorist". Which he is. Like, undeniably he is. He is famous for it lol.

ferball then proceeded to say I am incapable of understanding hip-hop, called me a privileged white guy, called me racist, attacked me for working for VicPol, called me toxic, said he doesn't like me, said I am not a good person, abused me repeatedly, and then tried to suggest he was the victim 😂.

All because I had the audacity to suggest that Iyah Maye... is doing the thing she is literally doing.

Don't believe me? Scroll back the last few pages and see for yourself.

So yeah... I'll always defend myself against nonsense attacks. Direct the scorn to the people doing the attacking 👍🏽😉
 
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Me personally? I am defending myself.

I repeatedly say that I don't start any of these tete-a-tetes, and by way of an example/proof, here's how the silliness of the last couple of days started. You tell me what I did wrong here 😂;

The entire (ridiculous) issue of hip-hop came out of nowhere when Val said that I know nothing about hip-hop. (The only context was that I mentioned Iyah May is pushing a deliberate cancel-culture angle to promote herself. Which is an undeniable fact). Val said "captain lockthread knows nothing about hip-hop" or something to that effect.

I said I do... because I do.

ferball then jumped on and attacked me for calling an artist called Immortal Technique a "conspiracy theorist". Which he is. Like, undeniably he is. He is famous for it lol.

ferball then proceeded to say I am incapable of understanding hip-hop, called me a privileged white guy, called me racist, attacked me for working for VicPol, called me toxic, said he doesn't like me, said I am not a good person, abused me repeatedly, and then tried to suggest he was the victim 😂.

All because I had the audacity to suggest that Iyah Maye... is doing the thing she is literally doing.

Don't believe me? Scroll back the last few pages and see for yourself.

So yeah... I'll always defend myself against nonsense attacks. Direct the scorn to the people doing the attacking 👍🏽😉
There have been a million opportunities for each and every one of you to turn the other cheek and show the other some kindness, and no one takes it.

It's become like one of those old family blood feuds where no one remembers how it started and, IMO, it would be a good thing to end it.

Edit: it's not scorn man. I respect all of you but just really hate seeing you all at each other's throats like this.
 
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Well firstly... no. This isn't one continous conversation obviously.

Secondly, that "different opinion", as you put it, is the silly belief shared amongst the clique that responsibility/blame for the Russian invasion of Ukraine belongs to some amorphous combo of Biden/America/NATO/"the West"/EU/UK/Zelenskyy... instead of Putin and Russia.

And I never attacked or "paying out on people" over it until y'all started abusing me for disagreeing with you, calling me a neo-con and a nazi-sympathiser etc. So no... nice try.




Well... you're sorta correct about the origins of the 9/11 commission, but also sorta wrong to imply that the 9/11 "truthers" weren't a bunch of groups peddling bullshit.

For posterity and just so we're on the same page;
  • 9/11 was not an inside job
  • Thermite was not involved
  • Missiles were not involved
  • The Twin Towers were not demolished
  • WTC 7 was not demolished
  • Bin Laden was not a CIA agent
  • Al Qaeda was responsible



I told you at the time I read it, but wasn't going to engage with you until you watched that video I linked you. This isn't a one way street buddy.



Yeah see you say you read it for yourself... but then you miss the entire point, which leaves me skeptical that you know how to read.

For summary, again, as this is like the millionth time I've gone over this in an effort to combat Warlord's deliberate lies about the situation;

1) The club emailed affected members and told us that all Marvel Home teams were losing the same seats due to an AFL decision around the Marvel Stadium redevelopment (Ess/Car/WB/StK).
2) Because North were the first of the Marvel clubs to get their membership packages out, this seemed potentially newsworthy, so I reached out to a journo I'd worked with on a few things previously to give him the heads up. It was not a "tantrum about losing my seat".
3) The journo discovered that no other Marvel Stadium clubs were actually reallocating the seats, and that this was a specific NMFC decision. It was at this point the journo's involvement ended because it was no longer a newsworthy issue of a sweeping AFL change impacting multiple clubs.
4) Affected members then sought clarification from the club who admitted (somewhat sheepishly) that their original explanation for the rationale of the change was somewhat less than accurate, and that actually they were turning the impacted bays into corporate seating.

There was never a "tantrum" involved and if the club had just said upfront that they were reallocating the seating (and not the AFL) I never would have contacted the journo.

This is all verfiable for yourself in that thread that you said you read...



Hahahaha that is the absolute most ridiculously petty way to interpret that sentence, and again just goes to show you approach these things through the lens of enormous bias and malice. Hahahahahaha.
But you are a neo-con
 
Me personally? I am defending myself.

I repeatedly say that I don't start any of these tete-a-tetes, and by way of an example/proof, here's how the silliness of the last couple of days started. You tell me what I did wrong here 😂;

The entire (ridiculous) issue of hip-hop came out of nowhere when Val said that I know nothing about hip-hop. (The only context was that I mentioned Iyah May is pushing a deliberate cancel-culture angle to promote herself. Which is an undeniable fact). Val said "captain lockthread knows nothing about hip-hop" or something to that effect.

I said I do... because I do.

ferball then jumped on and attacked me for calling an artist called Immortal Technique a "conspiracy theorist". Which he is. Like, undeniably he is. He is famous for it lol.

ferball then proceeded to say I am incapable of understanding hip-hop, called me a privileged white guy, called me racist, attacked me for working for VicPol, called me toxic, said he doesn't like me, said I am not a good person, abused me repeatedly, and then tried to suggest he was the victim 😂.

All because I had the audacity to suggest that Iyah Maye... is doing the thing she is literally doing.

Don't believe me? Scroll back the last few pages and see for yourself.

So yeah... I'll always defend myself against nonsense attacks. Direct the scorn to the people doing the attacking 👍🏽😉
Probably should reread what Val posted, you jumped the shark about a no name aust singer who sang some controversial lyrics, called her a conspiracy theorist.

Val simply said wait till you hear about hip hop, considering a bunch of the best from the 90s was conspiracy related.
 
But you are a neo-con

a different world i rest my case GIF
 
Probably should reread what Val posted, you jumped the shark about a no name aust singer who sang some controversial lyrics, called her a conspiracy theorist.

Nah, I didn't call her a conspiracy theorist. I called her someone chasing the conservative grifter money.

I called Immortal Technique a conspiracy theorist (aaaaaages ago), and ferball raised it again yesterday.
 
I posted the video to watch on Dec 15;

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You didn't watch it, then a full day and a half later you posted an article with the nonsense preamble "If you are a decent person you'll read all of it and respond to the substance"...
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I read your article the night you linked it. But considering I posted the video first, which you ignored because "I don't like to watch videos", I didn't feel especially compelled to honour your request about responding to the article.

We aren't just NPCs here to serve your whims, ferball. Dialogue is not a one-way street. You don't get to ignore what you don't like and then demand people respond to things you deem worthy of discussion. That's not how society works lol.
**** off dickhead. Don't start criticising me for something that happened in december when you were doing the same thing before Trump's election.
 
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