Random Random Chat Thread XL

[Jack Richards]

Getting in the shit for breathing (at least it's as close as I can come to putting my finger on it) is one of my favourite pass times apparently.

Likewise. Forget that I am the sole breadwinner in the house and work with 22 kids all day and come home to 2 of my own while my wife is a stay-at-home mum. As a dad supposedly I am not entitled to ask for a day to myself every now and again..

 

[Runk]

I guess you'll have to dry the dog then

Turns out the dog wasn't even wet. She had hid in the shed for the first time ever. If I've learned anything from this, and I haven't, it's that I will at least be able to watch tv without being interrupted.*



*FYI - I've cooked dinner, emptied the dishwasher, refilled it, hung out washing, folded dry washing and nothing. Donuts.

 

[Jack Richards]

You guys got me thinking about my childhood, if anyone knows Mt Gambier, these were my official boundaries. I had plenty to do in a pretty small area though when I look at it, it was 95% footy/cricket/riding/stirring up plovers, 5% pinnies and eating junk from the delis and I wouldn't have hit any other way. I had probably 5 or 6 school mates within the circle too so houses to visit. Unoffically I went farther and wider, sometimes with permission (to the pool on Margaret St), mostly without (down the main drag, up to Potters Pt then down the side of the Valley Lake crater to the bottom etc).

EDIT - the marker isn't where I lived, but pretty damn close.

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Man our childhoods were great compared to what the kids of today have. I use to have to ride my bike 10-20 minutes to school (had hills to push my bike up that were bloody steep) and just hang out at the local creek with the neighbours.. Nowadays kids at the school I teach at can't even walk to school and they have to be in the estate (so at a max, they would be 10 minute walk..)

Where has the day of playing cricket in the street or walking to a mates house to play out the front gone? I worry for my kids that they wont have neighbours to play with because they dont bloody leave their house because the parents want to wrap them in cotton wool.

 

[Jack Richards]

Turns out the dog wasn't even wet. She had hid in the shed for the first time ever. If I've learned anything from this, and I haven't, it's that I will at least be able to watch tv without being interrupted.*



*FYI - I've cooked dinner, emptied the dishwasher, refilled it, hung out washing, folded dry washing and nothing. Donuts.

At least you tried.

 

[Runk]

At least you tried.

****ing dog....


Update: we are talking again. All is well.

 

[Doss]

Tomic has endured a week of criticism following his outburst after his first round loss at Wimbledon, but he has again hit out.

“You probably don’t like me but, at only 24, you guys can only dream about having what I have at 24,” he said in an exclusive interview with the Sunday Herald Sun.

“End of the day, don’t like me or whatever. Just go back dreaming about your dream car or house while I go buy them.”

So just on this, just saw an ad on Channel 7 promoting Melissa Doyle's interview with Tomic, to be aired on Sunday Night.

Doyle: "Do you feel Australian?"

Douchebag doing voiceover: "is he a national disgrace?"

I dislike Tomic but what ****ing trash journalism. It's a sport for crying out loud. The chest beating, jingoistic crap makes me want to puke.

 

[Beerfish]

Mhmm

Or not. The **** do I know?

 

[Runk]

Or not. The **** do I know?

It's hard to write that and want it to sound like a LaFonda or a Shaniqua are saying it. Finger snap!

 

[Mercurial89]

So just on this, just saw an ad on Channel 7 promoting Melissa Doyle's interview with Tomic, to be aired on Sunday Night.

Doyle: "Do you feel Australian?"

Douchebag doing voiceover: "is he a national disgrace?"

I dislike Tomic but what ******* trash journalism. It's a sport for crying out loud. The chest beating, jingoistic crap makes me want to puke.

Make no mistake the reason our tennis players are the way they are and act they way they act is a direct result of our media and our Australian society.

This guys come in at 16-17 and are treated appallingly, we then as a nation crack the shits when they don't behave or respect others. Oh I wonder who we have to blame for that mentality?

We do the same thing with our Olympic athletes, ignore them for 3 years, worship them for 2 months whilst lambasting them for not acting how we as a society want them to act.

 

[Howard Moon]

Make no mistake the reason our tennis players are the way they are and act they way they act is a direct result of our media and our Australian society.

This guys come in at 16-17 and are treated appallingly, we then as a nation crack the shits when they don't behave or respect others. Oh I wonder who we have to blame for that mentality?

We do the same thing with our Olympic athletes, ignore them for 3 years, worship them for 2 months whilst lambasting them for not acting how we as a society want them to act.

never forget... these kids are spoon fed off the tax payer dollar early in their careers as they develop - we are within our rights as a nation to expect that as being down payment on a decent role model represnting our country.

 

[Mercurial89]

never forget... these kids are spoon fed off the tax payer dollar early in their careers as they develop - we are within our rights as a nation to expect that as being down payment on a decent role model represnting our country.

That is besides the point.
Do you remember when Kyrigos came onto the circuit?

I do, the kid was Lauded, people loved his confident brash nature, they applauded him and vilified Tomic who was on his slide. It was all fine, he was playing well, he had exceeded the majority of peoples expectations (mainly because no one follows tennis bar certain parts of the year).

Then he started to struggle, as most sportsman do. We jumped off so quick, "why are you so arrogant?", why are you quitting? Why are you throwing a tantrum?.

We built him into that. Rewarding brattish behaviour and lauding praise, money and attention onto a young immature kid. Then we hammer him with negativity and abuse when he crumbles under the pressure to perform, and because he was young when he first got all that attention he has no coping mechanisms and it just spirals.

Same as our Olympians. They work bloody hard for 4 years and receive nothing. No fame, no glory, then after all that hard work when there is no spotlight on what they do in their personal lives, we throw it on them, with immense public pressure to perform after our media/government comes out and sets expectations about we will this many medals and bla bla.
Then we jump on their backs when they step a toe out of line ( a line we draw and reserve the right to change at any time for anybody) and when they falter we bash them, and when they succeed, we raise our expectations further and declare them a god, until they falter eventually and are trashed as well.

They aren't the problem. This country is.

 

[Howard Moon]

That is besides the point.
Do you remember when Kyrigos came onto the circuit?

I do, the kid was Lauded, people loved his confident brash nature, they applauded him and vilified Tomic who was on his slide. It was all fine, he was playing well, he had exceeded the majority of peoples expectations (mainly because no one follows tennis bar certain parts of the year).

Then he started to struggle, as most sportsman do. We jumped off so quick, "why are you so arrogant?", why are you quitting? Why are you throwing a tantrum?.

We built him into that. Rewarding brattish behaviour and lauding praise, money and attention onto a young immature kid. Then we hammer him with negativity and abuse when he crumbles under the pressure to perform, and because he was young when he first got all that attention he has no coping mechanisms and it just spirals.

Same as our Olympians. They work bloody hard for 4 years and receive nothing. No fame, no glory, then after all that hard work when there is no spotlight on what they do in their personal lives, we throw it on them, with immense public pressure to perform after our media/government comes out and sets expectations about we will this many medals and bla bla.
Then we jump on their backs when they step a toe out of line ( a line we draw and reserve the right to change at any time for anybody) and when they falter we bash them, and when they succeed, we raise our expectations further and declare them a god, until they falter eventually and are trashed as well.

They aren't the problem. This country is.

Im not 100% it is besides the point though, I think it's a factor

 

[Runk]

That is besides the point.
Do you remember when Kyrigos came onto the circuit?

I do, the kid was Lauded, people loved his confident brash nature, they applauded him and vilified Tomic who was on his slide. It was all fine, he was playing well, he had exceeded the majority of peoples expectations (mainly because no one follows tennis bar certain parts of the year).

Then he started to struggle, as most sportsman do. We jumped off so quick, "why are you so arrogant?", why are you quitting? Why are you throwing a tantrum?.

We built him into that. Rewarding brattish behaviour and lauding praise, money and attention onto a young immature kid. Then we hammer him with negativity and abuse when he crumbles under the pressure to perform, and because he was young when he first got all that attention he has no coping mechanisms and it just spirals.

Same as our Olympians. They work bloody hard for 4 years and receive nothing. No fame, no glory, then after all that hard work when there is no spotlight on what they do in their personal lives, we throw it on them, with immense public pressure to perform after our media/government comes out and sets expectations about we will this many medals and bla bla.
Then we jump on their backs when they step a toe out of line ( a line we draw and reserve the right to change at any time for anybody) and when they falter we bash them, and when they succeed, we raise our expectations further and declare them a god, until they falter eventually and are trashed as well.

They aren't the problem. This country is.

I'm not saying this is 100% accurate but can only go from memory.

When Nick came onto the scene he was the fresh air we needed from the bullshit Tomic & co kept putting out.
The main difference for me was that Nick was also very humble at the start of his career. I think that's what took our attention and why people jumped on board. FINALLY someone who we could like.

The rest is history.

 

[Howard Moon]

Nobody can is asking you to win, or be good

We are asking you to represent the flag , you are representing us as people

Were you proud of pat rafter and what he stood for? How did it make you feel hearing him say sorry every time I missed a ball drop

 

[Howard Moon]

Rafter and scud were arguably equally successful, yet we grew to admire only one.

Its the way you carry yourself and its free

 

[Beerfish]

Rafter and scud were arguably equally successful, yet we grew to admire only one.

Its the way you carry yourself and its free

Phillipoopoohead never won anything did he?

 

[Howard Moon]

Made a us final, won us a Davis cup away in the last rubberino, was pretty pretty pretty, pretty good, I guess?

 

[Howard Moon]

Even Wayne Arthur's crying into his towel after losing the Davis cup tie... Humility. These new punks go hit the club's instead

 

[Beerfish]

Made a us final, won us a Davis cup away in the last rubberino, was pretty pretty pretty, pretty good, I guess?

Davis Cup is a team thing isn't it? He didn't win it on his own. He never won a title did he? I thought overall he was average, unless you're talking about 'women's magazine' covers made in which case he was a dead set superstar for a while there.

 

[Mercurial89]

Nobody can is asking you to win, or be good

We are asking you to represent the flag , you are representing us as people

Were you proud of pat rafter and what he stood for? How did it make you feel hearing him say sorry every time I missed a ball drop

You might have a higher opinion of our country and its media than I do.

They are representing us as a country bloody well at the moment.

Some people don't like what they see, but they are a product of this country's way of treating people.
Until people realise they are the issue, the end result will be the same.

 

[Howard Moon]

You might have a higher opinion of our country and its media than I do.

They are representing us as a country bloody well at the moment.

Some people don't like what they see, but they are a product of this country's way of treating people.
Until people realise they are the issue, the end result will be the same.

but kokkinakis is subject to the same media, likewise riccardo, likewise ben simmons, jason day.. i dunno, the list goes on - not everyone goes full ahole because of it.

 

[Pweter]

They've had smoke blown up their arse since they were kids, a legacy of being the best. Their talent saw them win and they were subsequently gifted everything to make it at a professional level. Their attitude now is a reflection of the attitude that was nurtured in their junior career and the start of their professional career.

I think all Australian sports fans wanted both Tomic and Kyrios to succeed and has been very patient with them over the journey. There's only so much childish petulance people are willing to accept though. They aren't kids any longer, they are grown men.

The thing is the ATP allows them to make more than (presumably) you and I could ever dream of despite their obvious character flaws. They are damn talented at tennis and as long as they enter enough tournaments their talent will see them make a good living.

We just need to accept that they'll be around until they can't be screwed with the lifestyle any longer, attitude and all.

 

[Mercurial89]

Bit chicken egg scenario it seems.

Were they arrogant before they got the constant praise and attention or is it a product of it.
Nature vs Nurture debate a bit.

Personally, I feel nothing against these blokes, I don't blame them at all for the way they act.

 

[Howard Moon]

How much respect do young boys have for their dads as a young teen?

Not much...

Now make him your coach..

 

[Doss]

The Australian national psyche never seeks to amaze me.

Gives sports stars an unnatural and out of proportion amount of adulation. But if they dare look like they're not trying, suddenly the jingoistic crap comes out.

There are many people who are a disgrace on a national and important scale. Someone not particularly enjoying a game of tennis is not one of them.