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[Pakenhamsaint]

So if you're rich enough to be able to spend between $150K and $750K on a "renovation" then you are entitled to a govt handout - FMD this is so so wrong!!!

Means-tested HomeBuilder grant to require minimum $150k spend

The Federal Government will give eligible Australians $25,000 to build or substantially renovate their homes, in an effort to boost demand in the construction sector and keep builders employed, provided they spend at least $150,000 of their own money.

www.abc.net.au

I'd like a house let alone renovate one!

 

[Stewart66]

Gee I wonder who the voter demographic is?

It’s all about divide & rule the World over .

Usual targets Unemployed , Homeless , Immigrants, all the money should have been spent on social housing.

Oversight is essential in the fast-moving crisis that is COVID-19

The Morrison government will inevitably make mistakes - that's understandable. That's why transparency and accountability will help preserve...

www.canberratimes.com.au

Again Scumo is spending secretly $500 million on voter research which was announced at estimates today.
Its all about aiming at the base ...Roger Ailes theory ...all the followers are Trump , Scumo, Johnson &
Bolsanaro.....

 

[StFly]

Haha, they are absolutely hopeless aren't they.

Nah, captain obvious for sure. If they were hopeless, Scotty would still be in Hawaii or lost at sea instead of showng all his competence in pork barrelling.

 

[Stewart66]

Gee I wonder who the voter demographic is?

Ask these guys

How the boomer meme-industrial complex helped shred Bill Shorten's campaign

A video has emerged of a Liberal Party consultant revealing details of the social media savvy used to outflank Labor in the election and win the 'battle of the thumbs'.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Stewart66]

Nah, captain obvious for sure. If they were hopeless, Scotty would still be in Hawaii or lost at sea instead of showng all his competence in pork barrelling.

The new normal

Minerals Council demands "reform" while its members pay little or no tax - Michael West

Last week, the Minerals Council of Australia published “immediate reform to accelerate economic recovery” while its members avoid tax. ACCR's Dan Gocher reports.

www.michaelwest.com.au

Who Pays: should ordinary taxpayers foot the bill for bushfires or the fossil fuel giants who pay no tax? - Michael West

Insurance premiums are set to soar. Fossil fuel companies should pay for Australian bushfires. Tax avoidance.

www.michaelwest.com.au

 

[Moral Decay]

It’s all about divide & rule the World over .

Usual targets Unemployed , Homeless , Immigrants, all the money should have been spent on social housing.

Oversight is essential in the fast-moving crisis that is COVID-19

The Morrison government will inevitably make mistakes - that's understandable. That's why transparency and accountability will help preserve...

www.canberratimes.com.au

Again Scumo is spending secretly $500 million on voter research which was announced at estimates today.
Its all about aiming at the base ...Roger Ailes theory ...all the followers are Trump , Scumo, Johnson &
Bolsanaro.....

It's been pretty contemptible all the way through, waiting until Quantas stop flying before they close the borders.

Any one from China into immigrant detention, others get home iso or hotels.

The Ruby Princess.

A weeks delay in Job Keeper and Job Seeker, just to keep the March quarterly looking good.

No Job Keeper for the Arts community, well they won't vote conservative anyway.

No Job Seeker for back packers, farm workers, foriegners, we don't care if you pay tax or for how long, you don't vote so you don't count so piss off back to where you come from.

He's been dragged into good policy by Andrews and Berejiklian, but lets his back benchers slam them in the Press, Palascuk wants to save Qld jobs at Virgin so Dutton has to tear her down. All the time taking credit for the Covid response, berating States thst don't do what he wants and then wants to tell us how well the National Cabinet is working.

Announces billions for fire relief that won't be delivered and tens of billions for Covid that won't be delivered.

His response to Childcare and Education has been laughable, for everyone that wasn't a parent or teacher, or childcare worker.

Let's not even contemplate our relationship with China.

There's more but I've forgotten them.

So this latest effort by Scotty from Marketing is just another miss step, given his record so far I don't have much hope for the future.

Scomo, the hollowest of hollow men.

 

[jwikked]

I came across this George Carlin stand up video from 1965. What stands out to me is George being impossibly young, and the content of his comedy. It could be delivered today and still be relevent. I really wish he was still around to add his biting commentary on the way things are in 2020.

 

[Moral Decay]

Ask these guys

How the boomer meme-industrial complex helped shred Bill Shorten's campaign

A video has emerged of a Liberal Party consultant revealing details of the social media savvy used to outflank Labor in the election and win the 'battle of the thumbs'.

www.abc.net.au

Well that makes it all perfectly ok.

 

[Stewart66]

It's been pretty contemptible all the way through, waiting until Quantas stop flying before they close the borders.

Any one from China into immigrant detention, others get home iso or hotels.

The Ruby Princess.

A weeks delay in Job Keeper and Job Seeker, just to keep the March quarterly looking good.

No Job Keeper for the Arts community, well they won't vote conservative anyway.

No Job Seeker for back packers, farm workers, foriegners, we don't care if you pay tax or for how long, you don't vote so you don't count so piss off back to where you come from.

He's been dragged into good policy by Andrews and Berejiklian, but lets his back benchers slam them in the Press, Palascuk wants to save Qld jobs at Virgin so Dutton has to tear her down. All the time taking credit for the Covid response, berating States thst don't do what he wants and then wants to tell us how well the National Cabinet is working.

Announces billions for fire relief that won't be delivered and tens of billions for Covid that won't be delivered.

His response to Childcare and Education has been laughable, for everyone that wasn't a parent or teacher, or childcare worker.

Let's not even contemplate our relationship with China.

There's more but I've forgotten them.

So this latest effort by Scotty from Marketing is just another miss step, given his record so far I don't have much hope for the future.

Scomo, the hollowest of hollow men.

Estimates advised that Covid budget increased from $2 billion to $5 billion
Where is extra $3 billion .....consultant fees ...Hockey back from just gets better

 

[Moral Decay]

Estimates advised that Covid budget increased from $2 billion to $5 billion
Where is extra $3 billion .....consultant fees ...Hockey back from just gets better

I want to put an emoji on that post but I can't pick just one, they all apply.

 

[mightymalaka]

I want to put an emoji on that post but I can't pick just one, they all apply.

How about this one?

 

[plugger66]

This thread should be retitiled looking through the labor eyes

 

[Verdun]

This thread should be retitiled looking through the labor eyes

Head to the Herald Sun for some balance plugger

 

[plugger66]

Head to the Herald Sun for some balance plugger

Don’t do papers anymore. I listen to bolt, jones and panihi for some sensible balance.

 

[pebblesofsand]

This thread should be retitiled looking through the labor eyes

There's nothing stopping you from posting a positive analysis of something like the home improvement scheme any time you like - except perhaps the scheme itself!!!!!

Its clearly a beauty- as someone said - it has all the conditions and restrictions of a wine club discount voucher where you have to buy more of what you don’t want at a price you can’t afford before the savings kick in at all.

 

[plugger66]

There's nothing stopping you from posting a positive analysis of something like the home improvement scheme any time you like - except perhaps the scheme itself!!!!!

Its clearly a beauty- as someone said - it has all the conditions and restrictions of a wine club discount voucher where you have to buy more of what you don’t want at a price you can’t afford before the savings kick in at all.

I like it. I’m doing my bathroom at the moment. It was going to cost 17k but I’ve no expanded it to 150k. To be honest I really don’t care.

 

[Verdun]

I like it. I’m doing my bathroom at the moment. It was going to cost 17k but I’ve no expanded it to 150k. To be honest I really don’t care.

I strongly believe the money should have gone to social housing - tradies still employed, people housed who do not have them.


It comes down to a question of need, something that is not discussed. To state the obvious it is pure marketing

 

[CaptainRisky]

How about more housing or refuges for homeless people , the streets look like at ghetto at times and no one should have to sleep outside in winter

 

[gringo2011]

I strongly believe the money should have gone to social housing - tradies still employed, people housed who do not have them.


It comes down to a question of need, something that is not discussed. To state the obvious it is pure marketing

Or what you usually do and build all the neglected infrastructure projects while times are shit.

 

[Stewart66]

Head to the Herald Sun for some balance plugger

It’s not about Labor , Liberal, Greens , Nationals , One Nation that’s the old ignorance is bliss.
Rich & Powerful people want decisions to keep them rich & powerful “division “is the means they do it.

Will Our Future Be Organized by the Rich or the Poor?

Isn’t it time to stop vindicating the wealthiest people in this country?

truthout.org

Be it Australia or North Korea its the same .

Wasting money on Military Hardware ...with companies like BAE , Raytheon would be good start.

The Shadow World

 

[Kildonan]

Sound like a true saints supporter always a reason why you[r] side loses

This is an unfair attack, mate. Pull your head in.

You may feel that you should always respond to a post because you seem to know an awful lot about everything but just sometimes it may pay to listen to that tiny voice in your head telling you to leave it alone. Not everyone thinks exactly the same way that you do, not everyone is missing some vital piece of information or lacks repetition of information you've already furnished.

Sure I love the Saints, and sure they have not been the most successful club in history, but I love supporting them, I love the anticipation of a premiership just around the corner, I love the development of players into a team who want to win for each other, I love the little wins along the way, sometimes I am a little blind to their faults but I am loyal without being blind. I criticise where I see faults and I admit when we have been outclassed, or out-coached or whatever I assess the weakness to be that resulted in our loss. Instead of thinking that this is now set in stone I look to what we can do to overcome that fault or weakness.

My assessment of the unfair media situation causing the downfall of Shorten's campaign isn't a team barracking situation, though politics for some does seem to be that way, it was a lament of what might have been. Labor had strong policies to counter the fire risk, they had sound policies for funding of science and medicine and a much better policy for social equality and safety nets. Labor has a much better record in managing the nation's economy. Instead of good government we have a corrupt mob protected by the corruptly empowered media. Everybody except the wealthy is worse off.

 

[George]

Labor has a much better record in managing the nation's economy. Instead of good government we have a corrupt mob protected by the corruptly empowered media. Everybody except the wealthy is worse off.

Couldn't have said this better myself, and the thinking that the Liberals are better at it than Labor is a dated idea and laughed at by anyone that at least does a bit of their own research.

 

[plugger66]

This is an unfair attack, mate. Pull your head in.

You may feel that you should always respond to a post because you seem to know an awful lot about everything but just sometimes it may pay to listen to that tiny voice in your head telling you to leave it alone. Not everyone thinks exactly the same way that you do, not everyone is missing some vital piece of information or lacks repetition of information you've already furnished.

Sure I love the Saints, and sure they have not been the most successful club in history, but I love supporting them, I love the anticipation of a premiership just around the corner, I love the development of players into a team who want to win for each other, I love the little wins along the way, sometimes I am a little blind to their faults but I am loyal without being blind. I criticise where I see faults and I admit when we have been outclassed, or out-coached or whatever I assess the weakness to be that resulted in our loss. Instead of thinking that this is now set in stone I look to what we can do to overcome that fault or weakness.

My assessment of the unfair media situation causing the downfall of Shorten's campaign isn't a team barracking situation, though politics for some does seem to be that way, it was a lament of what might have been. Labor had strong policies to counter the fire risk, they had sound policies for funding of science and medicine and a much better policy for social equality and safety nets. Labor has a much better record in managing the nation's economy. Instead of good government we have a corrupt mob protected by the corruptly empowered media. Everybody except the wealthy is worse off.

Unfair attack. Seriously? But the attack on the media is ok. I stand by it. Your bias is showing. And by the way your attack on me is far worse than me saying what I said. Pull your head in. Or can only a mod say that. I’m happy for you to attack me but don’t whinge that I attacked you when your comment was much worse. Amazing. A bit weird you brought up something I said nearly 2 weeks ago. It was such an innocent comment I’d even forgotten saying it.

 

[plugger66]

Couldn't have said this better myself, and the thinking that the Liberals are better at it than Labor is a dated idea and laughed at by anyone that at least does a bit of their own research.

Haha

 

[Kildonan]

Unfair attack. Seriously? But the attack on the media is ok. I stand by it. Your bias is showing. And by the way your attack on me is far worse than me saying what I said. Pull your head in. Or can only a mod say that. I’m happy for you to attack me but don’t whinge that I attacked you when your comment was much worse. Amazing. A bit weird you brought up something I said nearly 2 weeks ago. It was such an innocent comment I’d even forgotten saying it.

Everybody has the right to say "pull your head in" when they perceive that they have been unfairly attacked. You included.
My attack on the (overwhelmingly) right wing media is bias? They are changing who governs this country and because you favour the criminals now in charge you think that is ok. It is not. Check your own bias.

Don’t do papers anymore. I listen to bolt, jones and panihi for some sensible balance.

Ugh