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[Joffaboy]

Looks as though Pennsylvania is poised to turn blue

With approx between 350 to 400k to count Trump ahead by 36k

 

[StCicatriz]

I just want a fair result and if that needs to be played out with legal process so be it.

It's not a Trump v Biden thing, I don't know how many times I have to say it.

do you see the point he is making though?

 

[George]

do you see the point he is making though?

Of course I do. What does his point have to do with mine?

 

[StCicatriz]

I am not an overly political person but my political views would lean more to the right of center ...how should I be defined ..because it seems to me if I express any slightly right of center viewpoints I am labelled as a right wing fringe conspiracy theorist lunatic and therefore not to be taken seriously by the growing "woke" mob.

mate you literally used a far right conspiracy theory group as evidence that there is election fraud...

why are you surprised?

 

[George]

I am not an overly political person but my political views would lean more to the right of center ...how should I be defined ..because it seems to me if I express any slightly right of center viewpoints I am labelled as a right wing fringe conspiracy theorist lunatic and therefore not to be taken seriously by the growing "woke" mob.

It is disgraceful

 

[Joffaboy]

I am not an overly political person but my political views would lean more to the right of center ...how should I be defined ..because it seems to me if I express any slightly right of center viewpoints I am labelled as a right wing fringe conspiracy theorist lunatic and therefore not to be taken seriously by the growing "woke" mob.

Are you the Veritas Project? I can't see you being labelled anythng. Just your source. If you feel you must play victim, make sure it is over something factual.

 

[StCicatriz]

Of course I do. What does his point have to do with mine?

your point is we do not know if there is election fraud and we should wait for the evidence

the point of others is trump cannot make the statements he did without evidence to support it

the evidence trump did provide has been proven to be a lie

so he's basically gone, well if we can take that path, lets just label all the positive trump electorates as fraudulent as well with no evidence to support it, but lets just wait for the evidence.

 

[StCicatriz]

I am not an overly political person but my political views would lean more to the right of center ...how should I be defined ..because it seems to me if I express any slightly right of center viewpoints I am labelled as a right wing fringe conspiracy theorist lunatic and therefore not to be taken seriously by the growing "woke" mob.

"woke"

yeah time to take the boy off

 

[Armoooo]

I try to see and appreciate both sides of a story ..it appears the only thing you know about Project Veritas is what it says on Wikipedia and as that doesn't suit your narrative you are happy to just leave it at that.

Project Veritas aren't there to find any truth. O'Keefe serves to frenzy the conspiracy theory addicted fringe.

Do you really think Trump believed in the birther conspiracy? Of course not.

 

[BucketsandBanger]

I've mentioned it yesterday in here. I still don't get why people think because I support one party in one country means I need to support the same party in another. It is bizarre to me. I am not that invested in any party in any country. I look at both candidates policies and make up my mind from there. I am a swing voter and I believe that's how everyone should be. We aren't in the 60's anymore we should be able to weigh up both sides and make a decision.
[/QUOTE]

Fair enough, I'm a swing voter as well. For what its worth I agree with a lot of what you say, I think the left is as broken as the right, identity politics is cancerous to society, most of the coverage of Trump from mainstream media is hysterical exaggeration etc. I'm not gonna lie though, I think it's bizarre that anyone could have different opinions on major policy items such as climate change and healthcare from one country to another, if that is what your implying. Especially stable western democracy's like the US and Aus.

 

[Joffaboy]

I just want a fair result and if that needs to be played out with legal process so be it.

It's not a Trump v Biden thing, I don't know how many times I have to say it.

It's as if you think I believe Trump, lol

So you are all for the Florida result to go to court over massive Election Day voter fraud alleged (but with no evidence?)

 

[Joffaboy]

Project Veritas aren't there to find any truth. O'Keefe serves to frenzy the conspiracy theory addicted fringe.

Do you really think Trump believed in the birther conspiracy? Of course not.

hmm the useful idiots strategy

 

[George]

your point is we do not know if there is election fraud and we should wait for the evidence

the point of others is trump cannot make the statements he did without evidence to support it

the evidence trump did provide has been proven to be a lie

so he's basically gone, well if we can take that path, lets just label all the positive trump electorates as fraudulent as well with no evidence to support it, but lets just wait for the evidence.

So you are all for the Florida result to go to court over massive Election Day voter fraud alleged (but with no evidence?)

Haha this is mad.

Why don't we just have a proper fair legal election. Why is that so off putting to you and others?

I don't care if they have to review every state. Get a result that is fair and done legally.

What are you even taking issue with me on?

 

[Ceanag]

"woke"

yeah time to take the boy off

If the shoe fits

 

[Joffaboy]

Just updated down to 26,000 with 5% or more that 300k to count.

 

[StCicatriz]

Haha this is mad.

Why don't we just have a proper fair legal election. Why is that so off putting to you and others?

I don't care if they have to review every state. Get a result that is fair and done legally.

What are you even taking issue with me on?

because you are completely ignoring what trump has done and dressing it up as something completely different now

no one has an issue at all with a fair an legal election

they have an issue with the president claiming there is wide spread fraud when the evidence he provided is just blatantly false. if there is more evidence he has to present it then, which tells me there is none.

so lets just start labelling what ever we want as fraudulent when it doesn't go our way. that'll work well.

 

[flyingmagic]

I just want a fair result and if that needs to be played out with legal process so be it.

It's not a Trump v Biden thing, I don't know how many times I have to say it.

It's as if you think I believe Trump, lol

So it is not ok for Lebron to say that black people are being hunted down.

But it is ok for Trump to say that he has won the election or that the only way he loses the election is if it is rigged.

Right.

 

[George]

because you are completely ignoring what trump has done and dressing it up as something completely different now

no one has an issue at all with a fair an legal election

they have an issue with the president claiming there is wide spread fraud when the evidence he provided is just blatantly false. if there is more evidence he has to present it then, which tells me there is none.

so lets just start labelling what ever we want as fraudulent when it doesn't go our way. that'll work well.

I'm more interested in what happens with the legal process. If it is found that there was no fraud then he will cop his whack and rightfully so, he will look like an absolute clown and I will agree on that if it happens.

 

[Pardon me]

Haha this is mad.

Why don't we just have a proper fair legal election. Why is that so off putting to you and others?

I don't care if they have to review every state. Get a result that is fair and done legally.

What are you even taking issue with me on?

There shouldnt be a need for this to go to courts all just because one of the representatives makes baseless claims. It's only going to be decided by the legal system because no one is prepared to call the President on his bullshit.
The election is "proper" and "fair" and if it is fundamentally broken and requires the use of courts to determine an outcome in a democratic country then the system they have needs to change.
But they wont because in the "greatest democracy in the world" the right to make baseless claims is just as important as a fair, free election.

The fact this needs to be decided by courts to determine if this was fair is a mockery of the democratic process.

 

[StCicatriz]

I'm more interested in what happens with the legal process. If it is found that there was no fraud then he will cop his whack and rightfully so, he will look like an absolute clown and I will agree on that if it happens.

you don't have an issue with a leader providing false information to support unproven claims of voter fraud in what is a very close election at a time of great division?

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

Haha this is mad.

Why don't we just have a proper fair legal election. Why is that so off putting to you and others?

I don't care if they have to review every state. Get a result that is fair and done legally.

What are you even taking issue with me on?

but this is happening.

Trump is setting a very dangerous precedent with his recent statements. I am very interested to see how the power brokers of the GOP respond from here.

 

[Joffaboy]

Haha this is mad.

Why don't we just have a proper fair legal election. Why is that so off putting to you and others?

I don't care if they have to review every state. Get a result that is fair and done legally.

What are you even taking issue with me on?

Why, an unsubstantiated claim is an unsubstantiated claim, no matter who it comes from?

Just typing that you want a fair election is self-evident, unless there is an inference that others don't?

What is not evident is that there is grounds to claim fraud without foundation.

 

[flyingmagic]

In other news, Biden has now received 4 million more votes than trump.

 

[George]

There shouldnt be a need for this to go to courts all just because one of the representatives makes baseless claims. It's only going to be decided by the legal system because no one is prepared to call the President on his bullshit.
The election is "proper" and "fair" and if it is fundamentally broken and requires the use of courts to determine an outcome in a democratic country then the system they have needs to change.
But they wont because in the "greatest democracy in the world" the right to make baseless claims is just as important as a fair, free election.

The fact this needs to be decided by courts to determine if this was fair is a mockery of the democratic process.

you don't have an issue with a leader providing false information to support unproven claims of voter fraud in what is a very close election at a time of great division?

but this is happening.

Trump is setting a very dangerous precedent with his recent statements. I am very interested to see how the power brokers of the GOP respond from here.

Honestly it's neither here nor there for me. I wouldn't care if it was Biden doing it. I don't think it really makes that big of a difference. 150 million people in America did not vote in the biggest election in the countries history. People don't care as much as you probably like to think they do.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Honestly it's neither here nor there for me. I wouldn't care if it was Biden doing it. I don't think it really makes that big of a difference. 150 million people in America did not vote in the biggest election in the countries history. People don't care as much as you probably like to think they do.

The ones who care do.