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[St Muir]

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Hawking is dead, so yeah, his physical difficulties are hard to overcome.
Any disabilities he had didn't manifest until he was in his early twenties though.
He may have suffered from being a "nerd" when younger , but in University, nerds tend to go up the social ladder a bit.
Yes he had the same physical disabilities as my late uncle and Neil Daniher, managing to be one of the longest ( if not the longest ) survivors of motor neuron disease. All of them had healthy children.
I still fail to see the relevance , we weren't talking about creating a Hitler youth, we weren't discussing debilitating diseases.

Some people suspect that Einstein had autism, but there is certainly not enough evidence to hold it up as an example.

The point was that with advanced technology particularly in medicine. Survival traits are not necessary.
We don't need intelligence to survive, we look after stupid people.
If people in a particular group suddenly didn't have opposable thumbs , they would still get through ok. We can even help people with missing limbs and organs live productive lives.
Quite simply , evolution for humans may not be focusing on survival traits as much as likelyhood of having more children..

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321942.php[/QUOTE]
I'm getting the impression you only read your own posts

 

[pebblesofsand]

So after 2 1/2 years the Tories have finally established they don't like any of the possible options for Brexit but still want to Brexit.

FFS I thought the LNP in Australia was hopeless!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/27/theresa-may-to-resign-before-next-phase-of-brexit

 

[St Muir]

So after 2 1/2 years the Tories have finally established they don't like any of the possible options for Brexit but still want to Brexit.

FFS I thought the LNP in Australia was hopeless!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/27/theresa-may-to-resign-before-next-phase-of-brexit

Surely, they go to another referendum? It was a stupid call having one in the first place. A lot of people can now see the disadvantages of exiting that wasn't apparent in the political grandstanding.

 

[VDS66]

Hawking has profound physical disabilities, Einstein autism. For some reason I get a visual of a group of blue eyed, blond youth, immaculately dressed, coldly smiling in a group photo, when discussion goes down this path (not your post in particular).
I really think the humanity capacity to work together and support the group gets underrated when we talk about human dominance and evolution. Let’s face it the biggest, fastest, strongest, smartest individual was never going to win out against some of the bigger creatures that have roamed this planet, if working alone.

The evolution of our neo cortex and frontal lobe brought with it superior reasoning and strategising abilities. It made us the most adaptable animal in almost any environment and thus allowed us to thrive and ultimately dominate the planet.

It is not about survival of the fittest, but survival of the most adaptable. Evolutionary jumps such as walking upright and the use of fine motor skills through features like opposable thumbs caused the brain to grow in capacity and become more complex. Don't tell the vegans, but ingesting protein rich meat was critical in this process as well. The ability to use fire as a cooking method allowed for easier digestion and greater ingestion.

The whole process created a loop that continues today. The more challenges we face and overcome the more complex our brains become. We therefore have greater capacity to solve the next problem and so on.

This lead to huge leaps in evolution such as the acquisition of language, abstract reasoning and an ability to plan for the future. Social structures and the ability to co operate in large numbers further fuelled the process.

Our basic physiology rewards pro social behaviour and Co operation through hormonal loops that provide physical pleasure to encourage such behaviours. Oxcytocin, the love hormone, sometimes and our natural opiates flood our systems when we relate positively to others.

The opposite is also the case. Stress hormones such as adrenaline and cortisol damage our DNA and cause premature aging if they stay in the system for too long. It doesn't pay to stay angry.

So it seems we are designed to Co operate, get along and be good to each other. Fotumites take note!
You can read more about this in Carl Sagan's groundbreaking book, "The Dragons of Eden", which is about the evolution of consciousness and the attendant benefits of higher reasoning.

Or you may want to wait a couple of months for my book on the subject of the physical and psychological benefits of pro social behaviour, titled "It's Good To be Good". Your choice.[/QUOTE]
Can't wait.

Love this stuff.

 

[Joffaboy]

Call it the WA First party. The folks out west will vote for it without reading the fine print.

Calling it Joffaboy's Always Right Party, or JARP for short.

Lets face it, who isn't sick of WA's whinging about them carrying Australia and wanting more GST, and crapping on about the 'east' and all their shit.

Lets do it and find a solution to the Sandgroper issue.

 

[mightymalaka]

Calling it Joffaboy's Always Right Party, or JARP for short.

Lets face it, who isn't sick of WA's whinging about them carrying Australia and wanting more GST, and crapping on about the 'east' and all their shit.

Lets do it and find a solution to the Sandgroper issue.

I thought it meant Joffa's a Real Prick! either way it works!
But i'm with you we must find a solution to the Prawn issue! They can't even carry Kalgoorlie let alone Aus!

You know Sandgroper is just a pseudonym for East South Africa!

 

[Drake Huggins]

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Hawking is dead, so yeah, his physical difficulties are hard to overcome.
Any disabilities he had didn't manifest until he was in his early twenties though.
He may have suffered from being a "nerd" when younger , but in University, nerds tend to go up the social ladder a bit.
Yes he had the same physical disabilities as my late uncle and Neil Daniher, managing to be one of the longest ( if not the longest ) survivors of motor neuron disease. All of them had healthy children.
I still fail to see the relevance , we weren't talking about creating a Hitler youth, we weren't discussing debilitating diseases.

Some people suspect that Einstein had autism, but there is certainly not enough evidence to hold it up as an example.

The point was that with advanced technology particularly in medicine. Survival traits are not necessary.
We don't need intelligence to survive, we look after stupid people.
If people in a particular group suddenly didn't have opposable thumbs , they would still get through ok. We can even help people with missing limbs and organs live productive lives.
Quite simply , evolution for humans may not be focusing on survival traits as much as likelyhood of having more children..

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321942.php[/QUOTE]
My point was the various stages of evolution led us to this point. Many mutations and developments that helped us in the past are redundant, even disadvantageous in the modern environment. Our sympathetic nervous system's flight fight response, which enabled us to survive physically dangerous environments when we were hunter gatherers, has become something of a liability in the modern world, in which most of our stress is generated by psychological factors and the rapid advances in technology.

If you were born in England in 1400, you got as much new information in your entire life as we get in a single day today. When you consider that physiologically we are still much the same as we were 10,000 years ago, it's not difficult to understand why there are so many issues with mental health and feelings of being overwhelmed. Physical evolution just can't keep up. AI and technological enhancement of the physical body is the way forward. It's already happening.

 

[StFly]

So, because I am toothless, I wish to have a whinge.

Texas Burger & Fries

Aussie beef patty topped with pulled adobo beef, cheddar cheese, peppered bacon, tomato, onion, pickles, lettuce, Smokin’ BBQ sauce and Cajun battered onion rings.

Where in the shit does this mention the bun and all the things is smothered in mayo? And I mean pick burger up and have it drip. because it's bun both sides, onion dipped in, tomato coated. What is the goddamn fascination with ruining shit with condiments?

I mean, sure, my adobo beef was cold, as was the bacon, and the patty was luke warm, so it was already a shit experience, but what in the actual hell?

I suppose I should blame work for holding a dinner at TGI Fridays on a Thursday, obviously got the B team and broke the universe...

 

[gringo2011]

Hawking is dead, so yeah, his physical difficulties are hard to overcome.
Any disabilities he had didn't manifest until he was in his early twenties though.
He may have suffered from being a "nerd" when younger , but in University, nerds tend to go up the social ladder a bit.
Yes he had the same physical disabilities as my late uncle and Neil Daniher, managing to be one of the longest ( if not the longest ) survivors of motor neuron disease. All of them had healthy children.
I still fail to see the relevance , we weren't talking about creating a Hitler youth, we weren't discussing debilitating diseases.

Some people suspect that Einstein had autism, but there is certainly not enough evidence to hold it up as an example.

The point was that with advanced technology particularly in medicine. Survival traits are not necessary.
We don't need intelligence to survive, we look after stupid people.
If people in a particular group suddenly didn't have opposable thumbs , they would still get through ok. We can even help people with missing limbs and organs live productive lives.
Quite simply , evolution for humans may not be focusing on survival traits as much as likelyhood of having more children..

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321942.php

My point was the various stages of evolution led us to this point. Many mutations and developments that helped us in the past are redundant, even disadvantageous in the modern environment. Our sympathetic nervous system's flight fight response, which enabled us to survive physically dangerous environments when we were hunter gatherers, has become something of a liability in the modern world, in which most of our stress is generated by psychological factors and the rapid advances in technology.

If you were born in England in 1400, you got as much new information in your entire life as we get in a single day today. When you consider that physiologically we are still much the same as we were 10,000 years ago, it's not difficult to understand why there are so many issues with mental health and feelings of being overwhelmed. Physical evolution just can't keep up. AI and technological enhancement of the physical body is the way forward. It's already happening.[/QUOTE]


I think mental engagement is a real issue too, people had no time for anything but survival once, now we need phones and computers to stop us thinking too much. Labour saving devices have given us too much time to naval gaze. Need to get on footy forums to waste time to stay occupied now we don't have 16 hours of hard labour to exhaust us.

Did you read Sapiens? It's hypothesising about the shift from hunter gatherer to agrarian being the thing that grew our populations to massive proportions but at the same time tying up all our time. Good read.

https://www.booktopia.com.au/sapien...MIh6iX5qem4QIVzROPCh1ijQu0EAQYASABEgIbBfD_BwE

 

[St Muir]

Hawking is dead, so yeah, his physical difficulties are hard to overcome.
Any disabilities he had didn't manifest until he was in his early twenties though.
He may have suffered from being a "nerd" when younger , but in University, nerds tend to go up the social ladder a bit.
Yes he had the same physical disabilities as my late uncle and Neil Daniher, managing to be one of the longest ( if not the longest ) survivors of motor neuron disease. All of them had healthy children.
I still fail to see the relevance , we weren't talking about creating a Hitler youth, we weren't discussing debilitating diseases.

Some people suspect that Einstein had autism, but there is certainly not enough evidence to hold it up as an example.

The point was that with advanced technology particularly in medicine. Survival traits are not necessary.
We don't need intelligence to survive, we look after stupid people.
If people in a particular group suddenly didn't have opposable thumbs , they would still get through ok. We can even help people with missing limbs and organs live productive lives.
Quite simply , evolution for humans may not be focusing on survival traits as much as likelyhood of having more children..

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321942.php

My point was the various stages of evolution led us to this point. Many mutations and developments that helped us in the past are redundant, even disadvantageous in the modern environment. Our sympathetic nervous system's flight fight response, which enabled us to survive physically dangerous environments when we were hunter gatherers, has become something of a liability in the modern world, in which most of our stress is generated by psychological factors and the rapid advances in technology.

If you were born in England in 1400, you got as much new information in your entire life as we get in a single day today. When you consider that physiologically we are still much the same as we were 10,000 years ago, it's not difficult to understand why there are so many issues with mental health and feelings of being overwhelmed. Physical evolution just can't keep up. AI and technological enhancement of the physical body is the way forward. It's already happening.[/QUOTE]
A couple of cracking posts Drake. Thanks!

 

[gringo2011]

I went out to the comedy festival last night, my wife ran into a girl from her work, she's about 25 and hot and loves footy so much that she was watching footy on Kayo on her phone (not even her team) while the show was on and watches every game she can. She had a boyfriend who was complaining about how obsessed she was and doesn't even like footy. Why couldn't I have found a woman like that when I was young, she even sculled a beer before the show with me. I had to marry the fun police instead. I guess opposites attract.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I went out to the comedy festival last night, my wife ran into a girl from her work, she's about 25 and hot and loves footy so much that she was watching footy on Kayo on her phone (not even her team) while the show was on and watches every game she can. She had a boyfriend who was complaining about how obsessed she was and doesn't even like footy. Why couldn't I have found a woman like that when I was young, she even sculled a beer before the show with me. I had to marry the fun police instead. I guess opposites attract.

I can relate so much to your post.

 

[Yawkey way]

I went out to the comedy festival last night, my wife ran into a girl from her work, she's about 25 and hot and loves footy so much that she was watching footy on Kayo on her phone (not even her team) while the show was on and watches every game she can. She had a boyfriend who was complaining about how obsessed she was and doesn't even like footy. Why couldn't I have found a woman like that when I was young, she even sculled a beer before the show with me. I had to marry the fun police instead. I guess opposites attract.

Gringo I don’t know if you’ve ever read Tom sharpe but there’s more than a hint of Henry Wilt about you.

Firstly there’s not a guy alive you doesn’t have the one that got away. Secondly you probably did meet a girl like that who was so much fun it should have been illegal, I know I did. Thirdly they all change just as we do, work, kids and mortgages tend to do that.

Lastly our better halves are probably thinking the same things, if you like pina colada and getting caught in the rain .

 

[pebblesofsand]

So, because I am toothless, I wish to have a whinge.

Texas Burger & Fries

Aussie beef patty topped with pulled adobo beef, cheddar cheese, peppered bacon, tomato, onion, pickles, lettuce, Smokin’ BBQ sauce and Cajun battered onion rings.

Where in the shit does this mention the bun and all the things is smothered in mayo? And I mean pick burger up and have it drip. because it's bun both sides, onion dipped in, tomato coated. What is the goddamn fascination with ruining shit with condiments?

I mean, sure, my adobo beef was cold, as was the bacon, and the patty was luke warm, so it was already a shit experience, but what in the actual hell?

I suppose I should blame work for holding a dinner at TGI Fridays on a Thursday, obviously got the B team and broke the universe...

Food related - after months of very very little rain, I planned a big spanish evening tonight for a few friends - lots of char grilled meats and seafoods over hot coals - so what happens - rain!!!!

The big charcoal griller is now in the garage smoking up the golf clubs, the wetsuits, every piece of camping gear in the shed and my work clothes are gonna stink for months. (well at least it will be a different aroma)

But what a beautiful smell it is!!!!

Where's the sparkling burgundy!!!!

 

[Mikka84]

So, this has been bothering me for many years. How on Earth do you eat a hot pie properly? Every single time I either spill it or burn myself or take 45 minutes to finish it. I look like a complete nuffie that clearly shouldn’t be eating one, but they’re delicious.. is there a manual on such a thing?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

So, this has been bothering me for many years. How on Earth do you eat a hot pie properly? Every single time I either spill it or burn myself or take 45 minutes to finish it. I look like a complete nuffie that clearly shouldn’t be eating one, but they’re delicious.. is there a manual on such a thing?

It should be on the citizen test.
AND
It has to be one handed. Paper bag permitted.

Hint ( bit of dead horse will cool it down ).

 

[Mikka84]

It should be on the citizen test.
AND
It has to be one handed. Paper bag permitted.

Hint ( bit of dead horse will cool it down ).

I can never bite either side or middle without some explosion the other end and hot meat searing my cheek.. I don’t like sausage rolls or hotdogs, I love pies. I just can’t eat them. A dilemma that’s bothered me for years.

 

[Yawkey way]

So, this has been bothering me for many years. How on Earth do you eat a hot pie properly? Every single time I either spill it or burn myself or take 45 minutes to finish it. I look like a complete nuffie that clearly shouldn’t be eating one, but they’re delicious.. is there a manual on such a thing?

I hadn’t really thought about it until you asked, any way that allows you to enjoy the pie without wearing it really.

Personally I favour the middle, side, side method whilst my son nibbles his and takes a good 30 minutes to eat the pie. I have a lot more problems with the massive things that claim to be hamburgers these days. I have no idea how anyone with a mouth smaller than a killer whale can eat them without deconstructing it and they are smothered in too much sauce, mayo etc.

 

[Mikka84]

I hadn’t really thought about it until you asked, any way that allows you to enjoy the pie without wearing it really.

Personally I favour the middle, side, side method whilst my son nibbles his and takes a good 30 minutes to eat the pie. I have a lot more problems with the massive things that claim to be hamburgers these days. I have no idea how anyone with a mouth smaller than a killer whale can eat them without deconstructing it and they are smothered in too much sauce, mayo etc.

I’m like your son.. I now take 30min to eat the pie and I can sense people watching me and judging me.. so much so I can nervous when I buy the pie. I know I’ll be pie shamed once I rip the plastic bag off.

 

[gringo2011]

I’m like your son.. I now take 30min to eat the pie and I can sense people watching me and judging me.. so much so I can nervous when I buy the pie. I know I’ll be pie shamed once I rip the plastic bag off.

Now we know who you are Mikka.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ie-knife-fork-australia-outrage-a8467811.html

 

[Drake Huggins]

I went out to the comedy festival last night, my wife ran into a girl from her work, she's about 25 and hot and loves footy so much that she was watching footy on Kayo on her phone (not even her team) while the show was on and watches every game she can. She had a boyfriend who was complaining about how obsessed she was and doesn't even like footy. Why couldn't I have found a woman like that when I was young, she even sculled a beer before the show with me. I had to marry the fun police instead. I guess opposites attract.

Bet she's an axe murdering, black widow type. Lures them in with the siren song of watching footy and sculling beers and then once you're hooked, BAM! You'll be dashed on the rocks. Check your Greek and Teutonic legends and myths. The Sirens, The Lorelei etc. She sounds like fun, though.

 

[Drake Huggins]

I’m like your son.. I now take 30min to eat the pie and I can sense people watching me and judging me.. so much so I can nervous when I buy the pie. I know I’ll be pie shamed once I rip the plastic bag off.

"Pie Shamed". Gold. We have a new term in the lexicon.

 

[Mikka84]

Now we know who you are Mikka.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ie-knife-fork-australia-outrage-a8467811.html

Gave it my best shot. Morrison can jump in a lake the back stabbing ghost.

 

[VDS66]

I can never bite either side or middle without some explosion the other end and hot meat searing my cheek.. I don’t like sausage rolls or hotdogs, I love pies. I just can’t eat them. A dilemma that’s bothered me for years.

Nibble around the edge. Flip the lid and let the steam.out.

 

[VDS66]

Bet she's an axe murdering, black widow type. Lures them in with the siren song of watching footy and sculling beers and then once you're hooked, BAM! You'll be dashed on the rocks. Check your Greek and Teutonic legends and myths. The Sirens, The Lorelei etc. She sounds like fun, though.

Probably got herpes...