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[Pakenhamsaint]

Exeloo - perfect example of automated systems that drain society's wealth. Every time an Exeloo is purchased someone pays a bunch of money to an overseas company (based in NZ) and fires some cleaners. So then there are fewer local jobs and more money going offshore. This sort of automation across many areas is going to kill local economies.

They still need cleaners though. Some in the city are just a scribble board for the vandals.

They cost a good bit of coin. They put 2 in at Hallam Station at 250k.

 

[MUFKilda]

I only know one expat and she's absolutely barking, but the idea was brought up that prior to the Brexit vote social violence was not unexpected, the Brexit vote acted as a circuit breaker, and I wondered about your take on things. I don't expect Brexit to be a success, rather that there will be less opportunity to pass the buck.

Well that's one interesting issue: when the 'evil EU' can no longer be blamed for all our problems, which group will be targeted next? The lunatic fringe will go full racist, blaming ethnic minorities for everything again, whilst others will become disillusioned when the promises don't materialise; indeed when their circumstances get even worse. It's ironic that many of the areas which voted to leave the EU are the poorest, yet they receive most EU funding, which will disappear next month. All the analysis says we will be economically worse off, which of course hits those with the least the most. I think we will be politically weaker and much less relevant, and also socially poorer for breaking the ties with neighbouring countries. We don't yet know how bad the overall impact will be, but, if it's really bad, who knows what will happen. You don't just leave a trading block of 500 million people with no consequences. We will survive, but it could be very painful.

Our press has been majority against the EU for decades, with the right wing tabloids pushing all kinds of rubbish. What they didn't say, of course, was that the anger felt by working class communities wasn't the fault of the European Union at all, but was a consequence of the economic policies those same newspapers cheered: globalisation, deregulation, weaker unions, trickle down economics. They killed industry and decimated wage rates; so, when none of those are solved after Brexit, due to five more years of neoliberalism, what next?

 

[sunny3193]

"Welcome to Exeloo. Press button to close and lock door"
"*Airlock sound* Door locked, your maximum use time is 10 minutes. Press button to unlock door"

*Thats the actual song*

Are you sure?
Does not sound like that in my head.
Nor out of the one speaker Exeloo Global Inc has specified for each unit.
Maybe I’ve just got the mono version burrowed in my skull.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Are you sure?
Does not sound like that in my head.
Nor out of the one speaker Exeloo Global Inc has specified for each unit.
Maybe I’ve just got the mono version burrowed in my skull.

That's the standard song. I can tell by the piano at the start.

 

[Stewart66]

Well that's one interesting issue: when the 'evil EU' can no longer be blamed for all our problems, which group will be targeted next? The lunatic fringe will go full racist, blaming ethnic minorities for everything again, whilst others will become disillusioned when the promises don't materialise; indeed when their circumstances get even worse. It's ironic that many of the areas which voted to leave the EU are the poorest, yet they receive most EU funding, which will disappear next month. All the analysis says we will be economically worse off, which of course hits those with the least the most. I think we will be politically weaker and much less relevant, and also socially poorer for breaking the ties with neighbouring countries. We don't yet know how bad the overall impact will be, but, if it's really bad, who knows what will happen. You don't just leave a trading block of 500 million people with no consequences. We will survive, but it could be very painful.

Our press has been majority against the EU for decades, with the right wing tabloids pushing all kinds of rubbish. What they didn't say, of course, was that the anger felt by working class communities wasn't the fault of the European Union at all, but was a consequence of the economic policies those same newspapers cheered: globalisation, deregulation, weaker unions, trickle down economics. They killed industry and decimated wage rates; so, when none of those are solved after Brexit, due to five more years of neoliberalism, what next?

All good here mate happy to read your posts myself .

Laugh when they say the “silent majority “voted the conservatives in here

Queensland the home of One Nation got them over the line 20 seats to 4 told the tale .
Clive Palmer still hasn’t paid the nickel workers either..
Do I care ..not really anymore .

As said happy to informed by the silent network of reporters around the world , guys like Michael West here
in Australia, Glen Greenwald in USA ..they haven’t sold their soul to Murdoch.

When you watch shows like “ The Great Hack “ on Netflix Christopher Wylie is a hero in presenting
the clear facts of what Cambridge Analytica were up to , and what Roger Ailes was up to in the USA is pretty vivid
stuff , despise guys like Bannon profiting on extolling misery around the globe too.

Happy New Year.

 

[BigPowerForward]

Anyone who likes murder documentaries, I can highly recommend "Don't &$*? with kittens" on Netflix. Disturbing in parts but extremely watchable.
It's only 3 parts, so easy to binge watch.

 

[Stewart66]

Anyone who likes murder documentaries, I can highly recommend "Don't #$*? with kittens" on Netflix. Disturbing in parts but extremely watchable.
It's only 3 parts, so easy to binge watch.

Highly recommend The Shadow Line.. on Stan

 

[Johnnyrayflamingo]

 

[gringo2011]

The deplorables were anyone presumably in her eyes stupid enough to vote trump, she had a few categories but basically millions of Americans.

Others including Obama have made similar insulting comments about opposition supporters, anyway watch the video and her take back and make up your own mind. I guess if you want to focus on the undesirable and extreme supporters of any candidate your going to find very ugly views.

My impression watching her at the time was of a deliberately insulting and incredibly arrogant candidate.

All of my kids none of which could ever be described as right of centre openly acknowledge that they’ve seen students persecuted for questioning left wing views. Their also adamant that if you care about your marks and an easy life then you should simply fall into line.

Have a listen to the philosopher that I posted a link to. He acknowledges a left bias in uni...also said the economics subjects are opposite though. You don't find a marxist on staff in those departments. The people who work in uni instead of industry are generally the more left leaning because they have turned down industry jobs to teach. It attracts a certain demographic.

 

[Crusty Undies]

OK doomer. Why don't you adhere to your own lofty expectations if others and quote your sources? Afraid we'll look them up, if they actually exist? Go on, admit it. You just make shit up to suit yourself, or simply blindly belueve that which suits your confirmation bias.

Imagine unironically calling someone a ... I am too foolish to read the site rules and thinking that's even a good insult let alone an argument hahaha.

 

[Mowman]

Rance do a Carey did he ?

Its a dirty duck that paddles in a mates pond

 

[StFly]

Rance do a Carey did he ?

Its a dirty duck that paddles in a mates pond

Be very, very careful with what you parrot as it is simply noise that growing at the moment.

You have a retirement and a personal relationship on the cusp of ending, hardly anything to be stating social warrioring based on birds chirping.

Carey was different, he was notorious for chasing skirts and blind freddy could see that he was going to go close to potting someone who was attached, but as always, it takes two to tango so the fault is not his entirely to own.

 

[Mowman]

Be very, very careful with what you parrot as it is simply noise that growing at the moment.

You have a retirement and a personal relationship on the cusp of ending, hardly anything to be stating social warrioring based on birds chirping.

Carey was different, he was notorious for chasing skirts and blind freddy could see that he was going to go close to potting someone who was attached, but as always, it takes two to tango so the fault is not his entirely to own.

Nah
think you will find i'm pretty much on the money

 

[Johnnyrayflamingo]

I thought Rance was mega religious?
Surely devout religious people never sin!

 

[sammm]

I

I have Israeli Jewish friends who said he's more anti zionist than anti semitic. I'm not actually that into politics that I can say I know what he has said though. They were outraged by Trump's speech though so it might just depend on which side of the political fence you sit on.

Trump accused of anti-Semitism after saying Jewish Americans will vote for him so they can avoid a wealth tax

"You're brutal killers," President Donald Trump told those in real estate. "Not nice people at all, but you have to vote for me you have no choice."

www.businessinsider.com.au

I am right wing and my belief is anti Zionism is another word for anti-Semitism. It is too difficult to differentiate in my opinion.

I am sure Trump also has said anti-semitic things.
Unfortunately, These days There is pretty no where in the world where is is no anti-Semitism.

 

[CursingFijian]

I thought Rance was mega religious? Surely devout religious people never sin!

The first stones have been cast.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Exeloo - perfect example of automated systems that drain society's wealth. Every time an Exeloo is purchased someone pays a bunch of money to an overseas company (based in NZ) and fires some cleaners. So then there are fewer local jobs and more money going offshore. This sort of automation across many areas is going to kill local economies.

But but....our country was meant to embrace technology when we found out we couldn't bolt things together, or do anything with the stuff we digged from the ground ( face it if the chinese could dig it out of our ground, we'd be crap at that too ).
Why are we buying the automation from sheep farmers?

 

[bergholt]

But but....our country was meant to embrace technology when we found out we couldn't bolt things together, or do anything with the stuff we digged from the ground ( face it if the chinese could dig it out of our ground, we'd be crap at that too ).
Why are we buying the automation from sheep farmers?

Yep, exactly. Lots of work to do on improving Australia’s economy. I hope for all of our sakes that a government actually has the balls to do it.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Yep, exactly. Lots of work to do on improving Australia’s economy. I hope for all of our sakes that a government actually has the balls to do it.

They focus on education, but they need the industry incentives to go with it.
One of our universities developed a great new way to manufacture carbon fibre, it was sold.

The vision below, did not happen.
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Birth of Australian-made carbon fibre industry | Composites Australia

The vision for Geelong, Victoria, to be a carbon fibre manufacturing hub producing low-cost high performance material for the Australian and global markets is fast becoming a reality with three recent developments. The developments will hopefully give the Australian composites industry a...

www.compositesaustralia.com.au

Australia has joined the elite club of carbon fibre manufacturers using CSIRO patented technology is the first step in creating a generation of carbon fibre that is stronger and of a higher quality, Dr Marshall said.

“Together with Deakin University, we’ve created the seed to grow our manufacturing industry in Australia – generating jobs of the future built on home-grown innovation.”

CSIRO Research Director Dr John Tsanaktsidis said: “On our first attempt we created car-quality carbon fibre – we now expect to improve on that result and produce aerospace standard carbon fibre.”

 

[Kildonan]

Have a listen to the philosopher that I posted a link to. He acknowledges a left bias in uni...also said the economics subjects are opposite though. You don't find a marxist on staff in those departments. The people who work in uni instead of industry are generally the more left leaning because they have turned down industry jobs to teach. It attracts a certain demographic.

While that is a factor, uni professors are rarely career educators these days, more commonly they are drawn from career high performers, who usually rise to department heads and they will often have a strong teaching element to their role. The public service actually served us well in that function (or used to before it was mutilated by the LNP), and as you surmised, there is an ideological preference already at play. A lot of university professors still have a finger in the pie after their appointment to a teaching role by still working part time in the industry of origin. It helps keep them relevant. I have attended various universities for over ten years and have tutored as well (albeit quite some time ago now), a colleague of mine is now an associate professor with hopes of obtaining full tenure - but he remains an employee in my department as well.

Oh and PS - in all that time at uni, I was never approached with a view of making me vote left or educated in a way that made me favour the left

 

[Crusty Undies]

While that is a factor, uni professors are rarely career educators these days, more commonly they are drawn from career high performers, who usually rise to department heads and they will often have a strong teaching element to their role. The public service actually served us well in that function (or used to before it was mutilated by the LNP), and as you surmised, there is an ideological preference already at play. A lot of university professors still have a finger in the pie after their appointment to a teaching role by still working part time in the industry of origin. It helps keep them relevant. I have attended various universities for over ten years and have tutored as well (albeit quite some time ago now), a colleague of mine is now an associate professor with hopes of obtaining full tenure - but he remains an employee in my department as well.

Oh and PS - in all that time at uni, I was never approached with a view of making me vote left or educated in a way that made me favour the left

Coincidentally. I too haven't been cajoled into voting left by anyone at a university. Must've been the brainwashing I suppose.

 

[prophetic1]

All good here mate happy to read your posts myself .

Laugh when they say the “silent majority “voted the conservatives in here

Queensland the home of One Nation got them over the line 20 seats to 4 told the tale .
Clive Palmer still hasn’t paid the nickel workers either..
Do I care ..not really anymore .

As said happy to informed by the silent network of reporters around the world , guys like Michael West here
in Australia, Glen Greenwald in USA ..they haven’t sold their soul to Murdoch.

When you watch shows like “ The Great Hack “ on Netflix Christopher Wylie is a hero in presenting
the clear facts of what Cambridge Analytica were up to , and what Roger Ailes was up to in the USA is pretty vivid
stuff , despise guys like Bannon profiting on extolling misery around the globe too.

Happy New Year.

I thought West worked for Murdoch for Eight years '"INVESTIGATING" Finance and Big Business .....obviously not Murdoch's!!
However, I do see that West was appointed Adjunct Associate Professor at the University of Sydney’s School of Social and Political Sciences last year. The role is to work with the School’s Sydney Democracy Network, investigating money in politics, corporate influence and the intersection between government and big business. Sounds good!

 

[Kildonan]

It (ozone hole) is progressing towards repairing itself but the progress is inconsistent. As the Antarctic warms, more of the ozone hole travels north and manifests as weakening of the protection that the ozone usually affords us. It is as yet unpredictable exactly where the higher UV levels will manifest, but there is a ring of probability of the effect that crosses over southern Australia and NZ. I suspect South America may also be affected.

Interesting article: A record highest ever for the most ice to melt in Antarctica in one day

 

[pebblesofsand]

This has got a few people jumpy!!!

I'm dusting off the boots and fire resistant overalls just in case but hopefully the winds tomorrow aren't too strong and everything remains safe for the small communities in the hills and the Bruthen fire remains within the control lines.

Thousands told to evacuate vast east Gippsland fire threat zone

Visitors and residents told to ‘get out of’ an area half the size of Belgium immediately, in the face of historic fire threat day on Monday

www.theguardian.com

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

This has got a few people jumpy!!!

I'm dusting off the boots and fire resistant overalls just in case but hopefully the winds tomorrow aren't too strong and everything remains safe for the small communities in the hills and the Bruthen fire remains within the control lines.

Thousands told to evacuate vast east Gippsland fire threat zone

Visitors and residents told to ‘get out of’ an area half the size of Belgium immediately, in the face of historic fire threat day on Monday

www.theguardian.com

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Thats a big area full of trees. A major road and tourist area to boot.



Ive gone to the BBL. Full strength at the Garden gate!!!