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[NeXus Nick]

Hit 'em nice and hard
Make them drop their guard
'cos we're loyal to our Saints
'cos we're the Saints

 

[plugger66]

No worries

 

[Johnnyrayflamingo]

Record breaking half metre of rainfall

From tinder dry to sodden. The Northern Territory was so deluged on the weekend a record breaking 500mm of rain fell in parts.

www.news.com.au

Record rainfall in NT. Awesome.

Rain also sweeping the states helping with the busfires in VIC and NSW no doubt.

 

[Crusty Undies]

The fact you are probably serious highlights you have absolutely no idea on this topic. Knowing what you know, try spend a year in Tehran or Beijing as a citizen...then I dare you to complain about Australian democratic rights. Conduct the self experiment!

Johnnyray just shaking his head right now...

Does johnnyray think talking in the third person and refusing to talk about the actual point crusty made think that makes him right? Because if so johnnyray is as wrong as ever.

Seriously do you not think it's worth addressing the fact that Australia has been downgraded from an open to restricted democracy entirely on the actions of the Morrison led Liberals? Way to make yet another non sequitur. Another country being worse does not mean ours cannot, and should not, be better. You're right, Australians like you do take it for granted which is why we should be fighting to protect our rights ratherthan meekly letting them slip away because it's too much effort but that would go against your Liberal mentality so I suppose that's a step too far for you.

 

[CALL ME SNAKE]

Hit 'em nice and hard
Make them drop their guard
'cos we're loyal to our Saints
'cos we're the Saints

Close.
But its " mates" not Saints.
I've got this old StKilda cork board hanging in my tool shed.

 

[Crusty Undies]

Record breaking half metre of rainfall

From tinder dry to sodden. The Northern Territory was so deluged on the weekend a record breaking 500mm of rain fell in parts.

www.news.com.au

Record rainfall in NT. Awesome.

Rain also sweeping the states helping with the busfires in VIC and NSW no doubt.

Yeah I'm sure those NT rains are really helping with the megafires in VIC and NSW. Mhmm and those flash floods in the middle of summer that we've never had before and are posing yet another significant risk to fireys and civilians are sure great too. That's not out of the ordinary at all.

 

[Johnnyrayflamingo]

Does johnnyray think talking in the third person and refusing to talk about the actual point crusty made think that makes him right? Because if so johnnyray is as wrong as ever.

Seriously do you not think it's worth addressing the fact that Australia has been downgraded from an open to restricted democracy entirely on the actions of the Morrison led Liberals? Way to make yet another non sequitur. Another country being worse does not mean ours cannot, and should not, be better. You're right, Australians like you do take it for granted which is why we should be fighting to protect our rights ratherthan meekly letting them slip away because it's too much effort but that would go against your Liberal mentality so I suppose that's a step too far for you.

Geez, you are just so out of touch with reality and the real world its astoundingly mind boggling. Time to grow up sonny jim. You have got it very, very good in this beautiful country.

 

[Johnnyrayflamingo]

Yeah I'm sure those NT rains are really helping with the megafires in VIC and NSW. Mhmm and those flash floods in the middle of summer that we've never had before and are posing yet another significant risk to fireys and civilians are sure great too. That's not out of the ordinary at all.

Unlike you, myself and others would rather celebrate good news and be positive.

Its sad you can't alter your bias and ego to not fit your catastrophic end of the world mentality surrounding the bushfires.

No, but a young and green Crusty who has probably never left the sanctuary of his internet world knows better! Lol.

 

[Crusty Undies]

Unlike you, myself and others would rather celebrate good news and be positive.

Its sad you can't alter your bias and ego to not fit your catastrophic end of the world mentality surrounding the bushfires.

No, but a young and green Crusty who has probably never left the sanctuary of his internet world knows better! Lol.

I honestly don't understand you. You say you want to argue with facts so we give you facts then you either deny their legitimacy or straight up ignore them for emotional, story driven arguments. So we present our arguments in testimonials as it seems to be the only way you understand them, then when you don't like those answers you revert to petty ad hominem and name calling. Then when you get called out on it you ask for facts and evidence again. Literally the biggest circular argument since the bible.

Edit: oh and I forgot the consistent sprinkling of complete non sequiturs you use to draw eyes from the fact that not once have you satisfactorily countered an argument.

 

[Johnnyrayflamingo]

I honestly don't understand you. You say you want to argue with facts so we give you facts then you either deny their legitimacy or straight up ignore them for emotional, story driven arguments. So we present our arguments in testimonials as it seems to be the only way you understand them, then when you don't like those answers you revert to petty ad hominem and name calling. Then when you get called out on it you ask for facts and evidence again. Literally the biggest circular argument since the bible.

Edit: oh and I forgot the consistent sprinkling of complete non sequiturs you use to draw eyes from the fact that not once have you satisfactorily countered an argument.

More dribble from you Crusty. The so called facts you sometimes present are so biased and left wing they are completely ridiculous and to even bother countering them or making fun of is not worth it. I have disproved plenty of left wing bias on this random discussion forum, especially yours.

Get in touch with reality mate and the world is not self destructing. Nor is it filled with right wing conspiracies and repitilian aliens disguising themselves as ScoMo or Donald Trump.

The only really good thing I can say about you is that you're a St Kilda supporter. FQF.

Thank god the rains are coming hey? We wouldn't want those doomers and greenie nutjobs taking advantage of them anymore for political purposes would we?........

 

[StFly]

Well it really hasn't managed the clean in some of the most extreme environmental disasters of modern times in Fukushima and Chernobyl.There have been something like 50 serious incidents since Chernobyl. That is the real issue but there is also the spent uranium that needs safe storage, plenty has been dumped in oceans and Fukushima looks like it might end up that way too. The spent material can be weaponised as well.

I was in Japan just after the Fukushima disaster, you literally couldn't buy food from a huge area of their country. There were holes in supermarket shelves where products couldn't be supplied and people panic bought stuff because they thought it would get to the point of running out. There are serious health consequences for people in a huge radius and an unrepairable town that continues to leech radioactive water through the pacific.

Until they can turn the whole thing into a low risk and easy to store they won't bring it in. It's a much much more expensive form of power than renewables. They would be better to have mini battery substations on every large building, and self contained batteries on houses and use renewables if not.

My parents in law just built a house that is completely self reliant, it has huge underground water tanks, so much solar on the roof they could never get through it, it has batteries for a Tesla they have ordered but hasn't come yet, it's triple glazed and passive. It's not cheap but it has every luxury and won't cost a cent to run. It's still on the grid but if power goes off it can self power it's self.

The government has a scam that means you have to connect but feed your power to the grid and they pay FA for it but you have to stay connected so still pay supply charges.

On nuclear the Bill Gates one looks the most likely to succeed. It uses spent material and is much safer than traditional reactors.....only the fossil fuel companies seem determined to bury it. It would be the one chance the world has to stop a massive amount of carbon. Trump has shelved it by not allowing it in the US and then once it was signed up to be constructed in China, he stopped the transfer of technology so shelved it permanently.

TerraPower - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's fine, I mean it's only been what, 2 years since you've been able to fly over Fukushima and not get radioactive poisoning immediately, Chernobyl is getting random tourists and Mururoa is only at risk of completely collapsing in upon itself from radioactive fallout as opposed to having already given up its integrity. Surely we must be commending the progression of the green argument for nuclear fission because we dream of fusion and this is worth it. Let's not mention lake karachay either from Russias other dirty storage option that failed spectacularly. Because we dream of fusion, as we have since the 50's when tobacco was medicinal and only great ideas came from carbonating a chrome stripping agent see oh el eh COLA....

Sweet hopefully the landslides can damage the homes the fires missed. Maybe some animals can get trapped in the mud and die

Saves the government sweeping it under the rug if the Earth does it for them I suppose.

 

[CursingFijian]

Fundraising currently over $AUD 40 million. Not gonna lie, it put a tear in my eye.

 

[Crusty Undies]

More dribble from you Crusty. The so called facts you sometimes present are so biased and left wing they are completely ridiculous and to even bother countering them or making fun of is not worth it. I have disproved plenty of left wing bias on this random discussion forum, especially yours.

Get in touch with reality mate and the world is not self destructing. Nor is it filled with right wing conspiracies and repitilian aliens disguising themselves as ScoMo or Donald Trump.

The only really good thing I can say about you is that you're a St Kilda supporter. FQF.

Thank god the rains are coming hey? We wouldn't want those doomers and greenie nutjobs taking advantage of them anymore for political purposes would we?........

No you haven't. You just say you have and no one bothers to deny it because we all know you're lying at this point. And for someone who claims to be in the political centre you sure are obsessed with destroying LIBTARDS with FACTS and LOGIC. Just be honest and tell us that you get your information from Alex Jones, Ben Shapiro and Fox News, the professional opinion havers. How does it feel knowing you unfortunately aren't even good enough at it to get paid for it? I think I've figured you out now too. You're a conspiracy theorist in denial trying to pretend you're normal. You're one step away from telling us sheeple to wake up. What, is the earth flat too? Do vaccines cause autism? Did Bush do 9/11? Is the CIA in contact with interdimensional aliens? Is Mark Zuckerberg one of our reptilian overlords? And is he only being held back by big daddy Trump, Scomo and Boris? You're all the same. You always act high and mighty, disparage actual institutions of learning, education and science then claim to have the REAL knowledge that we're too indoctrinated to understand. When in reality you just can't admit you're just as (and likely more) bland, boring and biased as everyone else.

I'm done replying to you now Johnny. I've won so many times I'm getting sick of winning. I've done my job, poked so many holes in your hodge-podge collection of uninformed opinions and ad hominem you call a coherent position to display to everyone just how inept you are as a rational, critically thinking human being. Have a good time telling everyone how I'm a moronic greenie. I'm sure they'll all believe it.

 

[Johnnyrayflamingo]

Fundraising currently over $AUD 40 million. Not gonna lie, it put a tear in my eye.

Fantastic news. Its great to see people positively contributing to these bushfires. Bravo.

 

[Johnnyrayflamingo]

Why Aboriginal planners say the bush 'needs to burn'

Interesting article. In any case, the states and fed goverment need to employ more full time land carers implementing aboriginal and modern techniques. We need hundreds of them and we easily have the money for them.

 

[plugger66]

No you haven't. You just say you have and no one bothers to deny it because we all know you're lying at this point. And for someone who claims to be in the political centre you sure are obsessed with destroying LIBTARDS with FACTS and LOGIC. Just be honest and tell us that you get your information from Alex Jones, Ben Shapiro and Fox News, the professional opinion havers. How does it feel knowing you unfortunately aren't even good enough at it to get paid for it? I think I've figured you out now too. You're a conspiracy theorist in denial trying to pretend you're normal. You're one step away from telling us sheeple to wake up. What, is the earth flat too? Do vaccines cause autism? Did Bush do 9/11? Is the CIA in contact with interdimensional aliens? Is Mark Zuckerberg one of our reptilian overlords? And is he only being held back by big daddy Trump, Scomo and Boris? You're all the same. You always act high and mighty, disparage actual institutions of learning, education and science then claim to have the REAL knowledge that we're too indoctrinated to understand. When in reality you just can't admit you're just as (and likely more) bland, boring and biased as everyone else.

I'm done replying to you now Johnny. I've won so many times I'm getting sick of winning. I've done my job, poked so many holes in your hodge-podge collection of uninformed opinions and ad hominem you call a coherent position to display to everyone just how inept you are as a rational, critically thinking human being. Have a good time telling everyone how I'm a moronic greenie. I'm sure they'll all believe it.

Libtards. Lovely. Classy.

 

[Stewart66]

Clearing of native vegetation in NSW jumps 800% in three years

Exclusive: figures released after eight-month battle between Guardian Australia and state tribunal

www.theguardian.com

They have destroyed huge areas of Koala habitat my sister took over 1,000 Koala’ s in rescue destroyed
without care in the world they now reside in Grafton .
good old Gladys ....

Just for balance other mob politicians are no better.

Former Labor minister's ex-chief of staff lobbying for Norwegian oil giant

Foreign influence register reveals Bindi Gove lobbying for Equinor, which is wanting to drill in Great Australian Bight

www.theguardian.com

.

 

[Johnnyrayflamingo]

Why Aboriginal planners say the bush 'needs to burn'

Interesting article. In any case, the states and fed goverment need to employ more full time land carers implementing aboriginal and modern techniques. We need hundreds of them and we easily have the money for them.

Blue Mountains resident fought for permission to hazard reduction burn for two and a half years

Another very interesting read.

 

[NeXus Nick]

Close.
But its " mates" not Saints.
I've got this old StKilda cork board hanging in my tool shed.
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I was close.......I have the CD somewhere!!!!!

 

[prophetic1]

A better article on the impact.

Seabed mining is coming — bringing mineral riches and fears of epic extinctions

Plans are advancing to harvest precious ores from the ocean floor, but scientists say that companies have not tested them enough to avoid devastating damage.

www.nature.com

I fear it is inevitable....one can only hope that our technology advances sufficiently to solve the inherent sediment problems as we become more dependent on the 'rare earth' and other resources and minerals down there. At the moment they have Afghanistan to divvy up and exploit.....extremely rich in a great many of the minerals they're after...but that won't last forever...

 

[prophetic1]

You might call it cynical if you didn't know better. Apparently the ocean floor mining which will be an unprecedented ecological disaster is to keep up wth our demand for solar batteries and mobile devices. As a species we are a little bit doomed.

Understatement?

 

[gringo2011]

I read the Herald Sun for the first time in years yesterday. I have realised that you aren’t ignorant, you’re just indoctrinated. It’s the most unbalanced nonsense newspaper I have seen outside of England. That is the only voice in most states. It read straight from the Johnnyray playbook, all positive spin on the fires and blaming the greens when it’s not. It’s insane.

Blue Mountains resident fought for permission to hazard reduction burn for two and a half years

Another very interesting read.

 

[Yawkey way]

I read the Herald Sun for the first time in years yesterday. I have realised that you aren’t ignorant, you’re just indoctrinated. It’s the most unbalanced nonsense newspaper I have seen outside of England. That is the only voice in most states. It read straight from the Johnnyray playbook, all positive spin on the fires and blaming the greens when it’s not. It’s insane.

What can you read that isn’t full of garbage, opinion pieces dripping in vitriol etc.

I can’t remember the last time I read the sun and I just scan the age headlines online these days, it was probably back when I had them on subscription for the kids.

Seriously is there any source you would trust at face value these days without fact checking?.

 

[Yawkey way]

I’m planning on taking a break from posting for a while, it has nothing to do with this thread or bigfooty.

Both knees and at least my left hip are shot so I need to devote more time to finding ways of keeping fit, getting some exercise and visiting the physiotherapist before I even consider replacement surgery. Checking the iPad dozens of times a day to keep up with bigfooty just gives me an excuse not to do the things I should.

My eldest daughter is planning her wedding for around this time next year so I have some added incentive. Best wishes to everyone I hope you all have a good year and the mighty saints have a breakout year.

 

[Johnnyrayflamingo]

I read the Herald Sun for the first time in years yesterday. I have realised that you aren’t ignorant, you’re just indoctrinated. It’s the most unbalanced nonsense newspaper I have seen outside of England. That is the only voice in most states. It read straight from the Johnnyray playbook, all positive spin on the fires and blaming the greens when it’s not. It’s insane.

???

The Guardian, the most biased left wing and pro climate change rag out there gets referenced on this site more than the holy bloody bible. That is the fact. I have referenced all sorts of sites like the BBC, The Age, ABC, etc.

I am far from indoctrinated, I prefer lots of media outlets but to be honest, I'm not a big fan of most media these days. Too much clickbait headings. I prefer watching and reading things like Youtube, TED and other sources these days. People across the world have more choice and freedom now. Its why the mainstream media is getting more desperate for headlines and that's on all sides.