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[George]

It’s weird And I thought fox who is a trump supporter was owned by Murdoch. Confused.

Maybe you need to do a little bit more research into the history of mainstream media in America.

 

[George]

No I don’t. Only takes 30 seconds to realise the guy is a maniac and a dangerous one at that.

Yes you'd think that if you believe what the media tells you haha

 

[plugger66]

Maybe you need to do a little bit more research into the history of mainstream media in America.

Maybe you need to explain Murdoch love of trump yet it’s apparently only the media saying trump is crazy. Haven’t seen fox say that.

 

[George]

Maybe you need to explain Murdoch love of trump yet it’s apparently only the media saying trump is crazy. Haven’t seen fox say that.

Does Murdoch own all media in America does he? Again, do some research.

 

[plugger66]

Yes you'd think that if you believe what the media tells you haha

Boring line. Lacks imagination. Also makes no sense as I said I hear trump And not the media telling me how crazy and dangerous he is.

 

[jwikked]

It’s weird And I thought fox who is a trump supporter was owned by Murdoch. Confused.

Fox didn't want Trump to win the Republican nomination. They were against him until it became clear he was going to win that race. They only back him because he's a Republican, not because the Fox channel actually like him. Some do, sure. But overall that Channel is more anti-democrat than pro Trump.

 

[plugger66]

Does Murdoch own all media in America does he? Again, do some research.

Not sure I said that. Weak poor argument. You are going poorly at the moment.

 

[George]

Boring line. Lacks imagination. Also makes no sense as I said I hear trump And not the media telling me how crazy and dangerous he is.

You are smarter than that. Surely you don't really believe mainstream media provide the public with any impartiality

 

[George]

Not sure I said that. Weak poor argument. You are going poorly at the moment.

Not sure I said Fox News either.

 

[plugger66]

Fox didn't want Trump to win the Republican nomination. They were against him until it became clear he was going to win that race. They only back him because he's a Republican, not because the Fox channel actually like him. Some do, sure. But overall that Channel is more anti-democrat than pro Trump.

Well that is still pro trump. Trump is the leader. They see how crazy he is but still back him.

 

[triggering bro]

Trump is going to win this election. What a great day.

 

[George]

Fox didn't want Trump to win the Republican nomination. They were against him until it became clear he was going to win that race. They only back him because he's a Republican, not because the Fox channel actually like him. Some do, sure. But overall that Channel is more anti-democrat than pro Trump.

Just leave him mate he watches too much telly

 

[George]

Trump is going to win this election. What a great day.

Common sense prevails

 

[plugger66]

You are smarter than that. Surely you don't really believe mainstream media provide the public with any impartiality

You are one going on about media. I pointed out fox and Murdoch are trump supporters. I don’t care what any media say. I have my own opinion.

 

[plugger66]

Just leave him mate he watches too much telly

You have zero no idea. It’s an embarrassing argument when you need to make things up.

 

[George]

You are one going on about media. I pointed out fox and Murdoch are trump supporters. I don’t care what any media say. I have my own opinion.

That's your narrative, I never said anything about Fox News. I said mainstream media in America. And if you bothered to have any kind of a look at what is going on in America you'd see how much the left are rallying against him. Or do we just forget the impeachment based on nothing. Yet he still wins. Incredible result.

 

[George]

You have zero no idea. It’s an embarrassing argument when you need to make things up.

It's okay mate, I don't direct the issue at you. It's not your fault you have no idea. You just believe what they tell you, It's more an issue with media and how they control narratives.

 

[plugger66]

That's your narrative, I never said anything about Fox News. I said mainstream media in America. And if you bothered to have any kind of a look at what is going on in America you'd see how much the left are rallying against him. Or do we just forget the impeachment based on nothing. Yet he still wins. Incredible result.

It is. Just more proof there are a huge number of dumb yanks.

 

[plugger66]

It's okay mate, I don't direct the issue at you. It's not your fault you have no idea. You just believe what they tell you, It's more an issue with media and how they control narratives.

Why make up things. I clearly said I get my opinions from listening to the crazy man. Now you go on about me being influenced by the media. That’s a genuine lie. I suppose people need to do that instead of actually saying what I said because you have an agenda. Unfortunately it’s just lies.

 

[George]

It is. Just more proof there are a huge number of dumb yanks.

Evidently not! And the mainstream media is not a representation of the people, clearly, given the huge discrepancy of the narrative towards Trump and then the results of today's election. They (the media) used to have a stranglehold on elections but not anymore, people finally waking up and very happy this is the case. Those who just want to believe what the man on the TV tells them are becoming more and more irrelevant. Fox News yes owned by Murdoch yes had given Trump a fair go but mainstream in America does not begin and end at Fox News.

Why make up things. I clearly said I get my opinions from listening to the crazy man. Now you go on about me being influenced by the media. That’s a genuine lie. I suppose people need to do that instead of actually saying what I said because you have an agenda. Unfortunately it’s just lies.

Judging by your posts on American politics and politics in this country you seem to have the same view as those in the media. Trash Labor in Australia and trash Trump in America. Not to mention there's millions of people like you who just turn on the TV or radio and don't bother making their own minds up. Admittedly I was like that too until I decided to wake up. Today's result is a huge step in the right direction if we are to do away with media control over power. I'm more happy for the fact those in media who campaigned disgracefully against a candidate had it shoved back in their face. In this country we have the biggest ever petition for a royal commission into the media's stranglehold over this country. At this point the only way you'd think any of this is a non issue is if you believe whatever they tell you.

 

[George]

This forum is cooked, Crouch + Trump have blown the servers

 

[plugger66]

Evidently not! And the mainstream media is not a representation of the people, clearly, given the huge discrepancy of the narrative towards Trump and then the results of today's election. They (the media) used to have a stranglehold on elections but not anymore, people finally waking up and very happy this is the case. Those who just want to believe what the man on the TV tells them are becoming more and more irrelevant. Fox News yes owned by Murdoch yes had given Trump a fair go but mainstream in America does not begin and end at Fox News.


Judging by your posts on American politics and politics in this country you seem to have the same view as those in the media. Trash Labor in Australia and trash Trump in America. Not to mention there's millions of people like you who just turn on the TV or radio and don't bother making their own minds up. Admittedly I was like that too until I decided to wake up. Today's result is a huge step in the right direction if we are to do away with media control over power. I'm more happy for the fact those in media who campaigned disgracefully against a candidate had it shoved back in their face. In this country we have the biggest ever petition for a royal commission into the media's stranglehold over this country. At this point the only way you'd think any of this is a non issue is if you believe whatever they tell you.

Please don’t pretend that I am anything like you. I continually say I make up my own mind. Just because you couldn’t initially doesn’t mean I can’t. I do. Pure and simply. Just plain arrogance to say I don’t make my own mind just because it’s similar to main steam media even though one mainstream media In the USA agrees with you. I’m not going to be so arrogant to suggest you get your opinions off that mainstream media because I don’t have to lower myself to making things up to suit an agenda. Even worse is how I told you I get my opinions on trump and there was no mention of getting them from the media. And my opinion is trump is dangerous maniac. I’m not even sure mainstream media has said that. I wouldn’t know though as I make up my own mind.

 

[gringo2011]

You watch too much TV. Imagine basing your vote on a personality and not a policy. Absurd. Thankfully the people of that country don't do that.

I think his policy is the real issue. He's dangerously disregarding laws and conventions. Still supporting the system that pushes money to the top while causing a chasm amongst the population. I can't see one policy that he's had that is seriously better for the population in general unless they were accidental like isolating them from Chinese trade.

 

[gringo2011]

Does Murdoch own all media in America does he? Again, do some research.

US media is more liberal centrist than Australia and the UK in general but they have a much more conservative and right leaning politics. Strange thing that.

 

[George]

I think his policy is the real issue. He's dangerously disregarding laws and conventions. Still supporting the system that pushes money to the top while causing a chasm amongst the population. I can't see one policy that he's had that is seriously better for the population in general unless they were accidental like isolating them from Chinese trade.

My overarching view is that the current political systems across the world do not work and we need new systems. But that's a separate discussion to who I think is better for the country. In 2016 all the talk was they were going to war with North Korea. Didn't happen. Then they try and impeach the President and find absolutely nothing. Now they blame racial tension and general division on him. It's hilarious and even funnier people sit in front of their telly and lap it up.

Look at how the media in that country has riled people up to such a point that they are basically in a civil war now. It is disgraceful. My issue is actually the misrepresentation of the facts and the purposeful misreporting of events. It is them who have divided that country. You can talk about silly things Trump has said but it's a weak argument. They talk about racial division caused by Trump - last I checked he wasn't the one who passed a crime bill that incarcerated millions of african americans. What he did do though is pass criminal reform and improve employment across the country for minorities. But nobody talks about that.

Now there's the rally around defunding the police. I just have to laugh. I would agree they need to ban things like chokeholds obviously but a few bad incidents and apparently the entire force needs to pay.

They have hounded and hounded and hounded him for years. They only report on the news that backs their agenda. You don't hear any impartiality. If they just told it how it actually was then the entire country would benefit.

As for the Democrats, they think the American people are stupid. "You aren't black if you don't vote for me" , remember? Constantly pandering for votes by interviewing morons like Cardi B, someone who knows absolutely nothing about politics but has 20 million fans that hang onto her every word so obviously a good way to get a few votes. Biden playing Despacito off his phone and dancing to it in front of a stage at a Hispanic Heritage Month event. It's a disgrace.

But in saying all that, from today's results it looks as though the American people are sick of being treated like that. In the face of unprecedented scrutiny, Trump still wins. For me it's more a win for anti establishment than anything else.