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[StCicatriz]

But the Dems did the same thing four years ago and it was okay then?

mate, trump went on live TV and asked another nation to intervene in the election. what did you think was going to come from that?

couple that with the cambridge analytica outcome and you're wondering why there was attention on that?

pro-tip if you don't want people to question if there was foreign interference, DONT GO ON LIVE TV AND ASK FOR FOREIGN INTERFERENCE

 

[StCicatriz]

Nah they said the Russians were in on it

gee i wonder why:

 

[StCicatriz]

Fact check US: What is the impact of Russian interference in the US presidential election?

Russian interference deeply marked the 2016 American presidential election. Four years later, let’s analyze the form and impact of disinformation coming from Russia.

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[Ceanag]

my god. repeat after me: "biden and the democrats are not the left"

Well if Biden and the Democrats should not be considered as the left then 70 million Americans who voted for Trump should not be tarred as right wing fanaticists.

 

[StCicatriz]

Well if Biden and the Democrats should not be considered as the left then 70 million Americans who voted for Trump should not be tarred as right wing fanaticists.

is that even english

 

[Ceanag]

is that even english

As long as you understood the gist then it is good enough for an internet football forum (You little grammer Nazi you ) ...

 

[StCicatriz]

 

[StCicatriz]

Well if Biden and the Democrats should not be considered as the left then 70 million Americans who voted for Trump should not be tarred as right wing fanaticists.

if you're going to run with fake claims of voter fraud to cling to power then i think you're pretty far down the path of "right-wing fanatic" or "right-wing fascist"

i'm not sure what you meant given you seem to have smashed both words into each other.

 

[Ceanag]

if you're going to run with fake claims of voter fraud to cling to power then i think you're pretty far down the path of "right-wing fanatic" or "right-wing fascist"

i'm not sure what you meant given you seem to have smashed both words into each other.

Is it a word ...isn't it a word ...

"A fanaticist is different from a fanatic. A fanatic simply loves a particular subject or brand. A fanaticist on the other hand employs their outward extremism as a cover to hide an unacknowledged and suppressed inner cognitive dissonance. "

Fanaticist’s Error – The Ethical Skeptic

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[Ceanag]

if you're going to run with fake claims of voter fraud to cling to power then i think you're pretty far down the path of "right-wing fanatic" or "right-wing fascist"

How easy it is to put a label on someone who doesn't agree with your point of view ..

 

[CursingFijian]

But the Dems did the same thing four years ago and it was okay then?

Hilary conceded the day after the election as soon as the media called it.

 

[CursingFijian]

It's not a matter of "the left" or "the right", it's a matter of "the truth".

You mean your truth.

 

[Crusty Undies]

You mean your truth.

There's no such thing. There's the truth and there's everything else so thanks anyway but I meant precisely what I said.

 

[gringo2011]

close to the money

also doesnt explain why they would rig the presidential election but leave the senate and house completely untouched. also doesn't explain multiple counties across multiple states.

when you sit there and actually think about it, you see how damn ridiculous this is and how gullible/stupid some people can be

Yeah, that is the glaring bit of counter evidence. It's like breaking into a bank but not bringing anything to open the safe.

 

[Ceanag]

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo weighs in on the state of the election.
"There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration."

 

[StCicatriz]

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo weighs in on the state of the election.
"There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration."

as i said, seems pretty far right to me.

that's what far-right parties do, hold onto power by any means possible

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Hilary conceded the day after the election as soon as the media called it.

True!
But did anyone expect any different here?
The media have prematurely called the election. So what does Trump do?
He Trumps of course.
I wonder what his base would rather him do...

 

[StCicatriz]

deliberate

 

[mailman4]

Yeah, that is the glaring bit of counter evidence. It's like breaking into a bank but not bringing anything to open the safe.

This is the problem with conspiracy theories. They take a few bits of suspicious evidence and extrapolate it out into some master plan.

But if you start from the other end (ie the Democrats rigged the whole election), the proposed method they're being accused of makes 0 sense. Why not just fraud your way to winning Florida or Texas and wrap it up there? Why use such a wide range of different methods of fraud? If apparently, they can just roll in more postal votes whenever they want, why bother with dead voters? Why not take the Senate?

 

[gringo2011]

Too much has been/is being made of the “fraud” claims, it’s the inconsistency of the method of the counts which will be their big push.
Trump has maybe a 1% chance of retaining office, of course someone with his temperament will challenge.
If anything, this could bring to the fore the gaping holes in their voting system.

Actually any democratic system. He'd been plotting this for a while. The peaceful transition of power between elected officials is so fundamental to western democracy that no-one even considered that it might be challenged. This is more like a third world strong man forcing his will when things don't work out how he wants them too. The authoritarian bully boy act is very unusual for the west.

US election: Trump won't commit to peaceful transfer of power

The president also predicted the US election result would be determined before the Supreme Court.

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A day after Donald Trump fired defence secretary Mark Esper, three people staunchly loyal to the US President have been appointed to defence top jobs, including a former Fox News commentator whose offensive remarks about Islam skewered his previous attempt for such a role.

www.abc.net.au

Trump is attempting a coup in plain sight

How do we cover it when it’s happening here?

www.vox.com

 

[bergholt]

my god. repeat after me: "biden and the democrats are not the left"

I don't understand the bee in your bonnet about this. US politics (like Australia) is basically two sides. They may not be objectively "left" and "right" but as shorthand for one side or the other that seems perfectly reasonable to me - everyone knows what it means.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Actually any democratic system. He'd been plotting this for a while. The peaceful transition of power between elected officials is so fundamental to western democracy that no-one even considered that it might be challenged. This is more like a third world strong man forcing his will when things don't work out how he wants them too. The authoritarian bully boy act is very unusual for the west.

US election: Trump won't commit to peaceful transfer of power

The president also predicted the US election result would be determined before the Supreme Court.

www.bbc.com

Staunch Donald Trump loyalists moved into top US defence roles

A day after Donald Trump fired defence secretary Mark Esper, three people staunchly loyal to the US President have been appointed to defence top jobs, including a former Fox News commentator whose offensive remarks about Islam skewered his previous attempt for such a role.

www.abc.net.au

Trump is attempting a coup in plain sight

How do we cover it when it’s happening here?

www.vox.com

Look I agree, however there’s multiple fuels being thrown on the fire. An arrogant, 80’s salesman, Machiavellian operator throwing his last haymakers, and a media spreading misinformation.

 

[gringo2011]

Polling is starting to become a dying art. They can't rely on the traditional methods anymore and people are more reluctant to participate.

Over there the AP provide the numbers for most of the network then you have the American equivalent of Antony Green at each network looking at them. Even then they guess somewhat given the total number of ballots is not known until they count then.

It's just a giant mess. No one really wins in the end.

AI using social media responses will be the future of polling. This guy does lots of media but there are better ones.

Data guru says Trump is on track to win again

A data scientist who correctly predicted Donald Trump’s shock victory over Hillary Clinton in 2016 says the US President is currently on track to win again.

www.news.com.au

 

[StCicatriz]

I don't understand the bee in your bonnet about this. US politics (like Australia) is basically two sides. They may not be objectively "left" and "right" but as shorthand for one side or the other that seems perfectly reasonable to me - everyone knows what it means.

because the left vs right labelling that's been going on a while now, that started in the states through the media there and ended up on our shores, is used to demonise everything they don't like.

if you hate X, then you just label it as "the left" or "lefties". the people using it don't even understand what the left or right are, they're just parroting the shit they've heard as a catch-all sledge.

 

[Verdun]

because the left vs right labelling that's been going on a while now, that started in the states through the media there and ended up on our shores, is used to demonise everything they don't like.

if you hate X, then you just label it as "the left" or "lefties". the people using it don't even understand what the left or right are, they're just parroting the sh*t they've heard as a catch-all sledge.

Yep the new political correctness label anyone who calls something out as a lefty