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just dusted off my old vintage lego collection recently, have to say iam surprised that i actually had the complete bricksets for quite a few packs,
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there was a good Lego Brickumentary on SBS last night. Worth having a look at on Demand if you're a lego fan.
 

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Indeed. All i said was unfortunately o'meara has been ruined by injuries. Now he's likely to end up as a poor man's LDU. Which is still good. Hawk mod was in charge at the time = :thumbsdown::fire::thumbsdown:
What board was it on?

If it was on any board other than the hawks board thats absolutely piss poor by the mod.
 
So Manly (NRL) have been issued with a breach notice for being over the salary cap for the last 5 years.
When Storm did this once, they had a premiership removed, were fined & played for zero points in one season when serial dickhead and Melbourne hater Gallop was NRL CEO.

Twinkletoes - what's the bet some limp-wristed finger-pointing happens and SFA?
Protect a NSW club that are known for such behaviour? You betcha!

Could also go in the grumpy old thread but * it!
 
So Manly (NRL) have been issued with a breach notice for being over the salary cap for the last 5 years.
When Storm did this once, they had a premiership removed, were fined & played for zero points in one season when serial dickhead and Melbourne hater Gallop was NRL CEO.

Twinkletoes - what's the bet some limp-wristed finger-pointing happens and SFA?
Protect a NSW club that are known for such behaviour? You betcha!

Could also go in the grumpy old thread but glory be it!

Watching this subject being discussed on NRL 360 tonight and being compared to similar salary cap breaches at other clubs in Sydney, most notably Parra, I just kept thinking "ok, there's now enough evidence that salary cap indiscretions have been occuring all over the place for many years yet only one team copped the biggest most ridiculously over the top sledgehammer as punishment. Hand back the f***ing trophies you dogs!"

Yep, there may be a scapegoat or two in admin and a couple of fines, but that'll be about it...........as per usual.
 
University of Melbourne scientists take first step in bringing Tasmanian tiger back from extinction

Mark Dunn, Herald Sun
December 12, 2017 3:00am
Subscriber only
HOPES to bring back the famous Tasmanian tiger from extinction have taken another step forward: Australian and international scientists have sequenced its genome.

University of Melbourne Associate Professor Andrew Pask said any hope of re-creating a Tasmanian tiger was at least 10 years away.

“It is technically the first step to bringing the thylacine back, but we are still a long way off that possibility,” he said.

ARE TASSIE TIGERS LIVING IN THE CITY?

TASMANIAN TIGER TALES SOUGHT

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Scientists say reviving the Tassie tiger is at least 10 years away.
“We would still need to develop a marsupial animal model to host the thylacine genome, like work conducted to include mammoth genes in the modern elephant.”

The best chance for hosts for embryos would be dunnarts (mouse-sized marsupials), and then, if populations recovered, Tasmanian devils, which are both in a family related to the tiger.

“It’s definitely a long-term goal, can we create embryos and can we transfer those back (into hosts)?” Prof Pask said.

“(The technology) is way beyond us at the moment, but so was sequencing the genome just a couple of decades ago.

“Ethically, we actually owe it to species like that, the species we wiped off. If we could bring it back, we should.”

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Scientists have taken the first step in reviving the extinct Tassie tiger.
The thylacine’s genome also provides lessons in tackling the challenges faced by the Tasmanian devil, which has genetic limitations as a result of being geographically isolated for 10,000 to 13,000 years.

The genome research, conducted using samples from a 106-year-old pouch-young specimen held in the Museums Victoria collection, showed that low diversity had left the thylacine in poor genetic health.

“Our hope is that there is a lot the thylacine can tell us about the genetic basis of extinction to help other species,” Prof Pask said.

The thylacine and dingo are a prime example of convergent evolution, in which organisms not closely related independently evolve to look the same as a result of having to adapt to similar environments.

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A Tasmanian tiger that was on display at the Australian Museum in Sydney. Picture: AFP

FAMILY CLAIMS IT SPOTTED TASSIE TIGER IN LANGWARRIN SOUTH

Researchers found their hunting techniques and meat diet influenced skull and body shape similarities.

“We found the Tasmanian tiger had a more similar skull shape to the red fox and grey wolf than to its closest relatives,” Museums Victoria Dr Christy Hipsley said. “That these groups have not shared a common ancestor since the Jurassic makes this an astounding example of convergence.”

Prof Pask said environmental factors turned genes “on and off” at different stages over 160 million years of evolution. The research is published in Nature Ecology and Evolution.
 
University of Melbourne scientists take first step in bringing Tasmanian tiger back from extinction

Mark Dunn, Herald Sun
December 12, 2017 3:00am
Subscriber only
HOPES to bring back the famous Tasmanian tiger from extinction have taken another step forward: Australian and international scientists have sequenced its genome.

University of Melbourne Associate Professor Andrew Pask said any hope of re-creating a Tasmanian tiger was at least 10 years away.

“It is technically the first step to bringing the thylacine back, but we are still a long way off that possibility,” he said.

ARE TASSIE TIGERS LIVING IN THE CITY?

TASMANIAN TIGER TALES SOUGHT

d51ce337106b9edb4cf892278887e7a0

Scientists say reviving the Tassie tiger is at least 10 years away.
“We would still need to develop a marsupial animal model to host the thylacine genome, like work conducted to include mammoth genes in the modern elephant.”

The best chance for hosts for embryos would be dunnarts (mouse-sized marsupials), and then, if populations recovered, Tasmanian devils, which are both in a family related to the tiger.

“It’s definitely a long-term goal, can we create embryos and can we transfer those back (into hosts)?” Prof Pask said.

“(The technology) is way beyond us at the moment, but so was sequencing the genome just a couple of decades ago.

“Ethically, we actually owe it to species like that, the species we wiped off. If we could bring it back, we should.”

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Scientists have taken the first step in reviving the extinct Tassie tiger.
The thylacine’s genome also provides lessons in tackling the challenges faced by the Tasmanian devil, which has genetic limitations as a result of being geographically isolated for 10,000 to 13,000 years.

The genome research, conducted using samples from a 106-year-old pouch-young specimen held in the Museums Victoria collection, showed that low diversity had left the thylacine in poor genetic health.

“Our hope is that there is a lot the thylacine can tell us about the genetic basis of extinction to help other species,” Prof Pask said.

The thylacine and dingo are a prime example of convergent evolution, in which organisms not closely related independently evolve to look the same as a result of having to adapt to similar environments.

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A Tasmanian tiger that was on display at the Australian Museum in Sydney. Picture: AFP

FAMILY CLAIMS IT SPOTTED TASSIE TIGER IN LANGWARRIN SOUTH

Researchers found their hunting techniques and meat diet influenced skull and body shape similarities.

“We found the Tasmanian tiger had a more similar skull shape to the red fox and grey wolf than to its closest relatives,” Museums Victoria Dr Christy Hipsley said. “That these groups have not shared a common ancestor since the Jurassic makes this an astounding example of convergence.”

Prof Pask said environmental factors turned genes “on and off” at different stages over 160 million years of evolution. The research is published in Nature Ecology and Evolution.
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University of Melbourne scientists take first step in bringing Tasmanian tiger back from extinction

Mark Dunn, Herald Sun
December 12, 2017 3:00am
Subscriber only
HOPES to bring back the famous Tasmanian tiger from extinction have taken another step forward: Australian and international scientists have sequenced its genome.

University of Melbourne Associate Professor Andrew Pask said any hope of re-creating a Tasmanian tiger was at least 10 years away.

“It is technically the first step to bringing the thylacine back, but we are still a long way off that possibility,” he said.

ARE TASSIE TIGERS LIVING IN THE CITY?

TASMANIAN TIGER TALES SOUGHT

d51ce337106b9edb4cf892278887e7a0

Scientists say reviving the Tassie tiger is at least 10 years away.
“We would still need to develop a marsupial animal model to host the thylacine genome, like work conducted to include mammoth genes in the modern elephant.”

The best chance for hosts for embryos would be dunnarts (mouse-sized marsupials), and then, if populations recovered, Tasmanian devils, which are both in a family related to the tiger.

“It’s definitely a long-term goal, can we create embryos and can we transfer those back (into hosts)?” Prof Pask said.

“(The technology) is way beyond us at the moment, but so was sequencing the genome just a couple of decades ago.

“Ethically, we actually owe it to species like that, the species we wiped off. If we could bring it back, we should.”

ab8a4d3fdba8d267422c1712d1b88d5a

Scientists have taken the first step in reviving the extinct Tassie tiger.
The thylacine’s genome also provides lessons in tackling the challenges faced by the Tasmanian devil, which has genetic limitations as a result of being geographically isolated for 10,000 to 13,000 years.

The genome research, conducted using samples from a 106-year-old pouch-young specimen held in the Museums Victoria collection, showed that low diversity had left the thylacine in poor genetic health.

“Our hope is that there is a lot the thylacine can tell us about the genetic basis of extinction to help other species,” Prof Pask said.

The thylacine and dingo are a prime example of convergent evolution, in which organisms not closely related independently evolve to look the same as a result of having to adapt to similar environments.

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A Tasmanian tiger that was on display at the Australian Museum in Sydney. Picture: AFP

FAMILY CLAIMS IT SPOTTED TASSIE TIGER IN LANGWARRIN SOUTH

Researchers found their hunting techniques and meat diet influenced skull and body shape similarities.

“We found the Tasmanian tiger had a more similar skull shape to the red fox and grey wolf than to its closest relatives,” Museums Victoria Dr Christy Hipsley said. “That these groups have not shared a common ancestor since the Jurassic makes this an astounding example of convergence.”

Prof Pask said environmental factors turned genes “on and off” at different stages over 160 million years of evolution. The research is published in Nature Ecology and Evolution.
 
Has anyone on here recently installed solar panels on their homes? If so, who did you go with and what system did you end up getting?

Currently waiting on responses for quotes from half a dozen companies. Had a look at our club's sponsor Hello Solar but their site just looks dodgy. Quoted $6200 for a 3kW system + free Enphase battery + Enphase Envoy (Battery Controller) and Solar Monitoring with any purchase. Has anyone installed with them?
 
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Has anyone on here recently installed solar panels on their homes? If so, who did you go with and what system did you end up getting?

Currently waiting on responses for quotes from half a dozen companies. Had a look at our club's sponsor Hello Solar but their site just looks dodgy. Quoted $6200 for a 3kW system + free Enphase battery + Enphase Envoy (Battery Controller) and Solar Monitoring with any purchase. Has anyone installed with them?
Whats with the font?
I got quoted something like 7-7,500 or 7,700 for something similar a few years back GR.
Just didnt trust the salesmen and the panels themselves.

My opinion is this tho. Once its done its done and it what it is. You have to live with it. Dont know when the best time to get solar is and thats why there is uncertainty over it.
 
University of Melbourne scientists take first step in bringing Tasmanian tiger back from extinction

Mark Dunn, Herald Sun
December 12, 2017 3:00am
Subscriber only
HOPES to bring back the famous Tasmanian tiger from extinction have taken another step forward: Australian and international scientists have sequenced its genome.

University of Melbourne Associate Professor Andrew Pask said any hope of re-creating a Tasmanian tiger was at least 10 years away.

“It is technically the first step to bringing the thylacine back, but we are still a long way off that possibility,” he said.

ARE TASSIE TIGERS LIVING IN THE CITY?

TASMANIAN TIGER TALES SOUGHT

d51ce337106b9edb4cf892278887e7a0

Scientists say reviving the Tassie tiger is at least 10 years away.
“We would still need to develop a marsupial animal model to host the thylacine genome, like work conducted to include mammoth genes in the modern elephant.”

The best chance for hosts for embryos would be dunnarts (mouse-sized marsupials), and then, if populations recovered, Tasmanian devils, which are both in a family related to the tiger.

“It’s definitely a long-term goal, can we create embryos and can we transfer those back (into hosts)?” Prof Pask said.

“(The technology) is way beyond us at the moment, but so was sequencing the genome just a couple of decades ago.

“Ethically, we actually owe it to species like that, the species we wiped off. If we could bring it back, we should.”

ab8a4d3fdba8d267422c1712d1b88d5a

Scientists have taken the first step in reviving the extinct Tassie tiger.
The thylacine’s genome also provides lessons in tackling the challenges faced by the Tasmanian devil, which has genetic limitations as a result of being geographically isolated for 10,000 to 13,000 years.

The genome research, conducted using samples from a 106-year-old pouch-young specimen held in the Museums Victoria collection, showed that low diversity had left the thylacine in poor genetic health.

“Our hope is that there is a lot the thylacine can tell us about the genetic basis of extinction to help other species,” Prof Pask said.

The thylacine and dingo are a prime example of convergent evolution, in which organisms not closely related independently evolve to look the same as a result of having to adapt to similar environments.

67b78552c05eb7dea9939f11edf7228a

A Tasmanian tiger that was on display at the Australian Museum in Sydney. Picture: AFP

FAMILY CLAIMS IT SPOTTED TASSIE TIGER IN LANGWARRIN SOUTH

Researchers found their hunting techniques and meat diet influenced skull and body shape similarities.

“We found the Tasmanian tiger had a more similar skull shape to the red fox and grey wolf than to its closest relatives,” Museums Victoria Dr Christy Hipsley said. “That these groups have not shared a common ancestor since the Jurassic makes this an astounding example of convergence.”

Prof Pask said environmental factors turned genes “on and off” at different stages over 160 million years of evolution. The research is published in Nature Ecology and Evolution.
Having a science background, this excites me greatly.

But having a behavioural and conservation background makes me worry.

Current animals wouldn't see the Tassie Tiger as a known predator and it could lead to thinning out of already endangered species in the wild.

Similar to how Tassie as a whole shits itself over the idea of a Fox making it here from the mainland.

Will be a long time if at all we see a live TT in the wild, will be a captive species for a long time if it's even possible to clone them.
 
Has anyone on here recently installed solar panels on their homes? If so, who did you go with and what system did you end up getting?

Currently waiting on responses for quotes from half a dozen companies. Had a look at our club's sponsor Hello Solar but their site just looks dodgy. Quoted $6200 for a 3kW system + free Enphase battery + Enphase Envoy (Battery Controller) and Solar Monitoring with any purchase. Has anyone installed with them?

They ring all the time here.

Gaso hang up.

You just gotta do the Math..
 
Having a science background, this excites me greatly.

But having a behavioural and conservation background makes me worry.

Current animals wouldn't see the Tassie Tiger as a known predator and it could lead to thinning out of already endangered species in the wild.

Similar to how Tassie as a whole shits itself over the idea of a Fox making it here from the mainland.

Will be a long time if at all we see a live TT in the wild, will be a captive species for a long time if it's even possible to clone them.

Yes concur after watching Jurassic Park.
 
Having a science background, this excites me greatly.

But having a behavioural and conservation background makes me worry.

Current animals wouldn't see the Tassie Tiger as a known predator and it could lead to thinning out of already endangered species in the wild.

Similar to how Tassie as a whole shits itself over the idea of a Fox making it here from the mainland.

Will be a long time if at all we see a live TT in the wild, will be a captive species for a long time if it's even possible to clone them.


Nah, all those little marsupials will have survival in their genes, they'll run from anything bigger than them. Have you seen the studies of ducklings responding to hawk and goose silhouettes they've never seen before? The bigger issue, as noted in the article, prior to extinction the thylacines were suffering from weak genetic diversity, not sure how many sources of DNA they have for a genetic foundation to repopulate. Interesting times though... some big moral dilemmas ahead with the ongoing swine people embryos and the upcoming human head transplant.
 
Has anyone on here recently installed solar panels on their homes? If so, who did you go with and what system did you end up getting?

Currently waiting on responses for quotes from half a dozen companies. Had a look at our club's sponsor Hello Solar but their site just looks dodgy. Quoted $6200 for a 3kW system + free Enphase battery + Enphase Envoy (Battery Controller) and Solar Monitoring with any purchase. Has anyone installed with them?
You may want to PM me as I have worked in the solar industry for over 10 years.

I no longer work in the retail as I represent a large manufacturer of solar panels so can’t directly help though can assist in advice

Personally the Enphase micro inverters stuff is over priced and not reccomended unless you have a tricky roof. Also I am assuming they are giving away 1kW battery which is pretty much bigger all.

$6,200 should get you close to a 5kW system with European made inverter (Fronius or SMA) and tier 1 panel, such as Suntech, Trina, Q-Cells etc etc.

Personally I wouldn’t bother about storage (batteries) right now as prices will still continue to drop over the next 2 years.

Hello Solar are nobodies and I wouldn’t trust that they would stay the distance to honour warranties. But thanks for sponsoring the club nonetheless. :p
This industry is riddled with dodgy companies. Do not touch Eurosolar or True Value Solar as a quick Google review will reveal their business practices.

In Melbourne I would suggest Solargain or Energymatters for credible large retailers that use credible componentry.

Or if you want the personal touch Urban Energy are a small company but the blokes running it are 2 of the best installers I know in the business.

Anyways you could always go look at the whirlpool forums on Solar for more information.
 
You may want to PM me as I have worked in the solar industry for over 10 years.

I no longer work in the retail as I represent a large manufacturer of solar panels so can’t directly help though can assist in advice

Personally the Enphase micro inverters stuff is over priced and not reccomended unless you have a tricky roof. Also I am assuming they are giving away 1kW battery which is pretty much bigger all.

$6,200 should get you close to a 5kW system with European made inverter (Fronius or SMA) and tier 1 panel, such as Suntech, Trina, Q-Cells etc etc.

Personally I wouldn’t bother about storage (batteries) right now as prices will still continue to drop over the next 2 years.

Hello Solar are nobodies and I wouldn’t trust that they would stay the distance to honour warranties. But thanks for sponsoring the club nonetheless. :p
This industry is riddled with dodgy companies. Do not touch Eurosolar or True Value Solar as a quick Google review will reveal their business practices.

In Melbourne I would suggest Solargain or Energymatters for credible large retailers that use credible componentry.

Or if you want the personal touch Urban Energy are a small company but the blokes running it are 2 of the best installers I know in the business.

Anyways you could always go look at the whirlpool forums on Solar for more information.

Interesting info for us non solar panel owners NV, ta.

I also love the irony in your renewable energy source information post having a like prior to mine, from none other than Coalface. The yin and yang of BF!
 
Interesting info for us non solar panel owners NV, ta.

I also love the irony in your renewable energy source information post having a like prior to mine, from none other than Coalface. The yin and yang of BF!

Ha ha, well, ironically, I actually do work a bit in renewables, not so much technical aspects though, environmental, social and health impact assessments and permiting for solar/wind/hydro (hopefully geothermal at some point..) projects in Indonesia. We help our clients meet equator principles/IFC standards to get funding from international donor organisations. ...have worked in coal though... and the handle comes from self imposed CB callsigns during that time.
 
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