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My cousin was on this stretch of road and they were driving in the emergency lane.

Well well well....that's the Road I travel down to games on and if there is any good to come out of it, Vic Roads might turn its attention to the shit four lanes north and south between Seymour and Broadford once and for all.

Been the same surface since 1980's.
 

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Well well well....that's the Road I travel down to games on and if there is any good to come out of it, Vic Roads might turn its attention to the shit four lanes north and south between Seymour and Broadford once and for all.

Been the same surface since 1980's.
That's a shocker. It's only 30-32 max today so imagine tomorrow when it hits 43 or so.
 

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"Why are u so desperate to protect repeat, dangerous offenders that hurt innocent people?
How is protecting the community "right wing"?
Is justice, community safety and a "fair go" concepts that only the "right" are willing to talk about?[/QUOTE]


Justice, community safety and a fair go are hardly right wing issues obviously. And the words themselves are less important than the meanings different political ideologies give to them anyway.

However the Murdoch Press' coverage of the 'African' 'crime wave' doesn't concern itself with justice or a fair go. And even their spruiking of 'community safety' seems opportunistic, given the fact that youth violence is mostly perpetrated by non-Africans (if you look at the stats I posted above).

As for me being 'desperate' to protect offenders, I did post that I agree with proper sentencing for criminals acts - if you bothered to read what I actually posted.
 

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"Why are u so desperate to protect repeat, dangerous offenders that hurt innocent people?
How is protecting the community "right wing"?
Is justice, community safety and a "fair go" concepts that only the "right" are willing to talk about?

Justice, community safety and a fair go are hardly right wing issues obviously. And the words themselves are less important than the meanings different political ideologies give to them anyway.

However the Murdoch Press' coverage of the 'African' 'crime wave' doesn't concern itself with justice or a fair go. And even their spruiking of 'community safety' seems opportunistic, given the fact that youth violence is mostly perpetrated by non-Africans (if you look at the stats I posted above).

As for me being 'desperate' to protect offenders, I did post that I agree with proper sentencing for criminals acts - if you bothered to read what I actually posted.[/QUOTE]

I did read your post. My "desperate to protect offenders" comment was born from your response to BTron who said that where possible high level offending from those wishing to become Aust citizens should be deported.

For example, mr smith is from Ireland and looking to become an Aust citizen. He commits an armed robbery here. Gets bailed and then assaults someone.

We should be doing everything in our power to send mr smith back to Ireland.

We have enough scum here already that make ordinary people's lives a misery through violent crime. There is no need to import more.

In relation to the herald sun, yes they have clearly jumped board and using people's anger to get hits on their site. Almost as funny as Fairfax chasing it's tail trying to frame their leftie opinion. For months they wouldn't print "African" in relation to crime. Then they jump board naming and shaming, even getting a former Sudanese immigrant, now proud Aussie, to write an opinion piece THAT THERE IS A CLEAR PROBLEM with African crime. Then a couple of days later they reverse position, back to their original position of no problem, and trot out the immigration activist saying it's "not a problem and perspective is needed"

I wonder what perspective the poor lady had last night when 14 youths stormed her house, assaulted her and robbed her?
 

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"I did read your post. My "desperate to protect offenders" comment was born from your response to BTron who said that where possible high level offending from those wishing to become Aust citizens should be deported.
For example, mr smith is from Ireland and looking to become an Aust citizen. He commits an armed robbery here. Gets bailed and then assaults someone.
We should be doing everything in our power to send mr smith back to Ireland.
We have enough scum here already that make ordinary people's lives a misery through violent crime. There is no need to import more.
In relation to the herald sun, yes they have clearly jumped board and using people's anger to get hits on their site. Almost as funny as Fairfax chasing it's tail trying to frame their leftie opinion. For months they wouldn't print "African" in relation to crime. Then they jump board naming and shaming, even getting a former Sudanese immigrant, now proud Aussie, to write an opinion piece THAT THERE IS A CLEAR PROBLEM with African crime. Then a couple of days later they reverse position, back to their original position of no problem, and trot out the immigration activist saying it's "not a problem and perspective is needed"
I wonder what perspective the poor lady had last night when 14 youths stormed her house, assaulted her and robbed her?[/QUOTE]

We can agree to disagree about deportation. And true, the Hun seeks to deliver more readers to advertisers by getting hits on their site, as does the Age. But they have a political agenda as well as a commercial one.
As for the poor lady who was assaulted - who knows what her perspective is now, probably similar to the Hun's! Being a victim of crime must always modify one's feelings about safety and security. The city is re-constituted from a homely place to a threatening one, as is the home.
 

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Here's a report by the Fitroy legal service on how African or Australian born African descended youth were policed yoof were policed nearly a decade ago.

http://www.westjustice.org.au/cms_u...boys-you-wanna-give-me-some-action-report.pdf

How much of the trouble with Sudo kids comes from ******* police officers trying to make themselves look tough in front of their peers? Its pretty bad the way police youth interactions go most of the time. Bored cops, kids hanging around (as they are allowed to do) and a general attitude to young people, especially different looking ones, that comes straight from a My Chemical Romance song and its bound to create problems down the line. If you come here as a 5 year old and your only experience of the police is aggressive over policing, unpleasant authoritarian treatment with no respect for you as a person sprinkled with outright racism that no one stands up against then by the time you are 18 you are gonna be headed doan a road to crime.

We didn't important crime then, we waited till people got here then criminalised them.

Anyway here's a racist joke.

What do you call a bunch of black african kids hanging around in melbourne?

A pseudopod!!!
 

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Alberici absolutely nails it here. Where are all the stories inflammatory headlines about men, and a lot of white men at that, kicking the shit out of their girlfirends and/or wives and/or children. It's an epidemic in this country and the lack of coverage it, and the underlying causes ie., Australias cultural drinking problem, expectations of gender roles, masculinity in the household etc gets is an absolute disgrace.

 
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Alberici absolutely nails it here. Where are all the stories inflammatory headlines about men, and a lot of white men at that, kicking the shit out of their girlfirends and/or wives and/or children. It's an epidemic in this country and the lack of coverage it, and the underlying causes ie., Australias cultural drinking problem, expectations of gender roles, masculinity in the household etc gets is an absolute disgrace.

Absolutely. I was raised by 3 women who were bashed by my grandfather. He beat my grandmother almost every day. The campaigner put cigarettes out on her face just because of his dinner being cold. I have been told that’s just the way it was back then.

The thing that hits me the hardest is they still speak fondly of him. I have met a few of his mates who carry on about what a good bloke he was. Makes me sick.

I’ll never forget seeing my nan covered in scars when I waa about 10. She grew up in an orphanage and then married that horrible campaigner.

Sorry mods, I’ll probably delete this in 10 minuets

Edit- for anyone who remembers my posting, this is not the same grandfather who was awarded those medals, he committed suicide. This grandfather was on my other side and he has no excuse. He was a crook, but no decent crook beats their wife and children
 
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Alberici absolutely nails it here. Where are all the stories inflammatory headlines about men, and a lot of white men at that, kicking the shit out of their girlfirends and/or wives and/or children. It's an epidemic in this country and the lack of coverage it, and the underlying causes ie., Australias cultural drinking problem, expectations of gender roles, masculinity in the household etc gets is an absolute disgrace.

Absolutely a scuourge on our community.

It's obviously under resourced. Along with a host of other problems we have.
 

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Absolutely. I was raised by 3 women who were bashed by my grandfather. He beat my grandmother almost every day. The campaigner put cigarettes out on her face just because of his dinner being cold. I have been told that’s just the way it was back then.

The thing that hits me the hardest is they still speak fondly of him. I have met a few of his mates who carry on about what a good bloke he was. Makes me sick.

I’ll never forget seeing my nan covered in scars when I waa about 10. She grew up in an orphanage and then married that horrible campaigner.

Sorry mods, I’ll probably delete this in 10 minuets

Edit- for anyone who remembers my posting, this is not the same grandfather who was awarded those medals, he committed suicide. This grandfather was on my other side and he has no excuse. He was a crook, but no decent crook beats their wife and children
I hope you don't mind me quoting this, if you want me to delete it so your post is deleted as well just PM me and I will gladly do so. First off, my condolences. That's ******* awful and I hope it's something that you and your family can reflect on now and speak about with honesty, compassion and support because that kind of shit can stay with you and cause some horribly pernicious stuff later in life for many people.

I, too, have had personal experiences with this kind of thing. I won't go into details, but shit that I witnessed and experienced as a kid and didn't even recognise until I was an adult (literally it's only been the last couple of years that I've seriously reflected on those things) just how ****** up it was, and then later understanding that it was a frequent occurrence in many households across the country makes it even worse.

The actual details are infinitely more complicated than that, but suffice to say that it's a shameful, disgraceful part of our community that can often go unnoticed, or worse willfully ignored, and unpunished.
 

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Which one's you? I'm tipping the one front and centre with the lumber jacket. You strike me as a man of great taste and refinement.

Ah the 70's. Skinny rib jumpers, lumber jackets, dolly cuts, treads, Broady boys, Slade, Croxton Park hotel, Sunbury.

Memories.


Added note. Sam Kekovich on the new Max Kirwan t.v. ad. I think those top dentures might need adjusting.
 
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Absolutely. I was raised by 3 women who were bashed by my grandfather. He beat my grandmother almost every day. The campaigner put cigarettes out on her face just because of his dinner being cold. I have been told that’s just the way it was back then.

The thing that hits me the hardest is they still speak fondly of him. I have met a few of his mates who carry on about what a good bloke he was. Makes me sick.

I’ll never forget seeing my nan covered in scars when I waa about 10. She grew up in an orphanage and then married that horrible campaigner.

Sorry mods, I’ll probably delete this in 10 minuets

Edit- for anyone who remembers my posting, this is not the same grandfather who was awarded those medals, he committed suicide. This grandfather was on my other side and he has no excuse. He was a crook, but no decent crook beats their wife and children
Donkey Chop, really sorry to hear this.
 

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