Random NON FOOTY thoughts not worthy of a thread: Edition II

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All really big unknowns at this stage....

I work in the environmental industry, previously in Australia I used to do mostly contaminated land/groundwater assessments. Australia, and Victoria in particular, is quiet well legislated regarding enforcing water/groundwater standards based on end use, such as drinking water, irrigation, stock watering or contact recreation, with the majority of the guidelines taken from USA EPA threshold values. The studies which inform these also inform food safety authorities.

Data for these limits are derived from various sources such as tests on cells in the lab, long term exposure studies on animals, or incidental exposure studies of humans and populations which are very limited due to the ethical restrictions of exposing people to known or suspected toxic compounds.

The issue then is that a high standard of evidence for the threshold values is required for them to be scientifically robust. The take away being that the values set mean something tangible, the downside being that many compounds that don't have sufficient evidence despite being known or suspected toxicity lack safe threshold values. Some of which are described as "likely carcinogens" but have no scientifically determined "safe" threshold limit in drinking water.

One well documented compound in plastic, BPA, which is implicated in the issue of increasing prevalence of microplastics, is a good example, it's a known endocrine disruptor, however there is no tangible safe level that has been derived. This article does a pretty good job of explaining the issues involved...

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/feb/19/are-we-poisoning-our-children-with-plastic

basically we do not know what the implications are long term.
 
Living in the third world makes drinking tap water out. Even tho water is treated the pipes are damaged,old and just too much risk. I'm thinking about boiling but not sure that is good enough. Some places have naturally occurring arsenic for example. I'd love to know more but maybe it's too late anyway.
 
Living in the third world makes drinking tap water out. Even tho water is treated the pipes are damaged,old and just too much risk. I'm thinking about boiling but not sure that is good enough. Some places have naturally occurring arsenic for example. I'd love to know more but maybe it's too late anyway.

Yeah, I know what you mean, I'm on the gallon bottles from Danone that you put onto a water cooler, they are known BPA sources :(
As for arsenic, the Victorians used to take it as a stimulant... though that isn't to say that low dose exposure isn't bad long term.... https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/122-a130/

My big worry here in Indonesia is fresh water fish, so much illegal gold mining using mercury goes on. the WHO recently did a survey of blood mercury in south east asia, 100% of the Indonesians tested were above the threshold.
 
Fitness tip: Do your handstand pushups in the shower and enjoy the constant stream of drinking water on offer. You'll get a solid shoulder workout while your peristalsis process will enjoy the challenge of working against gravity.
I see one of three things happening:

1. Slip and break your neck
2. Slip and end up through the glass shower screen
3. Motor unit recruitment increasing my contractile shoulder strength.

Did you suggest the same thing to josh gibson when he was in perth?
 
S.E. Asia is in a bad way. Too much development too quickly. Just too many people and bad practices. We have to leave Thailand for four months of the year during smoke season. Cambodia is crazy with China turning it into a colony. Non stop construction of casinos, new airports, highways, bridges. We just came to Vietnam. Talk about infill. At least here not so many cars.
 
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Living in the third world makes drinking tap water out. Even tho water is treated the pipes are damaged,old and just too much risk. I'm thinking about boiling but not sure that is good enough. Some places have naturally occurring arsenic for example. I'd love to know more but maybe it's too late anyway.
Yeah boiling will kill the bacteria, but not any heavy metals like arsenic, lead etc. Would cost you roughly 40 bucks to do an 8 metals suite at a quality lab, probably cheaper at a local one, for some peace of mind.
 
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Yeah boiling will kill the bacteria, but not any heavy metals like arsenic, lead etc. Would cost you roughly 40 bucks to do an 8 metals suite at a quality lab, probably cheaper at a local one, for some peace of mind.

Trouble is I'm always on the move. Might try it for the home. Thanks.
 
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Yeah boiling will kill the bacteria, but not any heavy metals like arsenic, lead etc. Would cost you roughly 40 bucks to do an 8 metals suite at a quality lab, probably cheaper at a local one, for some peace of mind.

- Cheap titanium dioxide filtration treatment should take care of the heavy metal issues.
- Home test kits for heavy metals can be purchased for around 40 bucks.
 

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You're the board beer expert. I have a son the is wheat intolerant. What beers will he be able to drink?

Don't know if this helps but I tried the $12 Coles special- Kirin- a Japanese beer

Lubbed it so much I went back and bought another 6 this morning
 
Don't know if this helps but I tried the $12 Coles special- Kirin- a Japanese beer

Lubbed it so much I went back and bought another 6 this morning


Asian beers a refreshing change Gaso. Try the Asahi too. Did the factory tour in Tokyo last year. 3 free pints in 20-30 minutes to finish the tour at 11.00a.m. Needless to say we all ate " ALOT " of sushi & sashimi for lunch.

Visitors bought me some sake couple of weeks ago. Crack it open when you arrive.

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Asian beers a refreshing change Gaso. Try the Asahi too. Did the factory tour in Tokyo last year. 3 free pints in 20-30 minutes to finish the tour at 11.00a.m. Needless to say we all ate " ALOT " of sushi & sashimi for lunch.

Visitors bought me some sake couple of weeks ago. Crack it open when you arrive.

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Vast majorty of 'imported' beers from Japan etc are brewed in Australia and taste quite different from their original versions. Pity really. Kirin tastes like piss in comparison to the Japanese version. Same with Peroni...
 
Vast majorty of 'imported' beers from Japan etc are brewed in Australia and taste quite different from their original versions. Pity really. Kirin tastes like piss in comparison to the Japanese version. Same with Peroni...
There's a Japanese version of Peroni?
 
Asian beers a refreshing change Gaso. Try the Asahi too. Did the factory tour in Tokyo last year. 3 free pints in 20-30 minutes to finish the tour at 11.00a.m. Needless to say we all ate " ALOT " of sushi & sashimi for lunch.

Visitors bought me some sake couple of weeks ago. Crack it open when you arrive.

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I have the exact same bottle sitting at home somewhere. Been sitting in the cupboard for 10 years. Haven't opened it because the packaging is nice.
 
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