Analysis 'Random Statistics that don't warrant a thread' Thread?

[cryptor]

So Tom Mitchell had his 1000th disposal for Hawthorn. Took him 28 games.

Previous fastest were John Platten and Dean Anderson who took 45 games.

Insane stat. What a ball magnet he is!

 

[IdiotBox]

The highest ladder position we ever attained in season 2018 was 3rd after the first game.
The lowest was 11th, after round 12.

I know, right?

 

[Fevola99]

Richmond have never beaten Hawthorn in a final.

 

[A Diakos]

We broke "Kennetts curse" of 11 straight losses v Geelong Prelim Final 2013.....we went on to win our 11th Flag v Fremantle the following week, and our score was 11 11 77...

 

[beta_condition]

Yesterday was Hawthorn's 900th home-and-away win, to go with 950 losses and 10 draws.

972 Wins for 991 Losses over all as it stands right now, bit of luck we over take our losses in early 2021.

 

[tommyk72]

972 Wins for 991 Losses over all as it stands right now, bit of luck we over take our losses in early 2021.

Why not just win the GF in three games and then go something like 19-3 next year?

 

[crazywildhorse]

How many Thursday night games have we played? This will be the first I imagine?

 

[stemline]

How many Thursday night games have we played? This will be the first I imagine?

Nah, we've played 5 Thursday night games in the last 3 years.

Plus one day game back in 1963.

We've gone 4-2 so far.

 

[stemline]

Straight Sets exits (0-2 in finals) since 1925:

9 Carlton
8 Collingwood
7 Geelong
3 Sydney/Sth
3 West Coast
2 Fitzroy, Hawthorn, Melbourne, North, Bulldogs
1 Fremantle, Port, St Kilda

 

[cryptor]

Straight Sets exits (0-2 in finals) since 1925:

9 Carlton
8 Collingwood
7 Geelong
3 Sydney/Sth
3 West Coast
2 Fitzroy, Hawthorn, Melbourne, North, Bulldogs
1 Fremantle, Port, St Kilda

And what about when the opponent who beat them in the Semi Final actually goes on to make or win the GF?

I don't see why there'd be any shame in going out in straight sets to the Bulldogs in 2016 when they proved to be the best team in September.

 

[Hawks1994]

And what about when the opponent who beat them in the Semi Final actually goes on to make or win the GF?

I don't see why there'd be any shame in going out in straight sets to the Bulldogs in 2016 when they proved to be the best team in September.

Decent chance that the two teams who beat us in finals this year, will square off in the last game of the season too

 

[grumbleguts]

How many players does it take to win a premiership?

Here is a graph of the number of players used by Hawthorn in any season. The red line is the average number of players used. The orange dots are premierships. Not once did we use above the average in terms of players used during a premiership year. Look at 2009. Massive issues with the list, missed finals after winning a premiership.

 

[IdiotBox]

Decent chance that the two teams who beat us in finals this year, will square off in the last game of the season too

Oops.

 

[grumbleguts]

For the second season in a row, Hawthorn has only 1 Peter Crimmins medallist on its list. Not sure this has ever happened before.

It's an amazing stat. No one on hawthorn's list except Tom Mitchell has ever won a Crimmins medal. And that is astounding. We cleaned out all of our recent ones when Gibson, Lewis, Mitchell and Hodge left in short order.

 

[stemline]

As it currently stands, of all our 1,976 games, only 1 has been played without a past or future HFC B&F player – 1962 round 12 v Footscray.

 

[Carl Spackler]

How many players does it take to win a premiership?

Here is a graph of the number of players used by Hawthorn in any season. The red line is the average number of players used. The orange dots are premierships. Not once did we use above the average in terms of players used during a premiership year. Look at 2009. Massive issues with the list, missed finals after winning a premiership.
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Nice graph. It visualises the adage that low-injuries leads to finals glory.

 

[Lawsy]

As it currently stands, of all our 1,976 games, only 1 has been played without a past or future HFC B&F player – 1962 round 12 v Footscray.

so that will remain unless Tom is injured or misses a game for the next few years as I can see him winning the PCM again next year and likely the year after.

 

[grumbleguts]

In the 80s and 90s we played in 8 grandfinals. 7 in a row.

Here are the players who played in those grand finals.

All 8.
Ayres, Gary
Brereton, Dermott
Mew, Chris
Tuck, Michael

At least 7
Ayres, Gary
Brereton, Dermott
DiPierdomenico, Robert
Mew, Chris
Tuck, Michael

At least 6
Ayres, Gary
Brereton, Dermott
DiPierdomenico, Robert
Greene, Russell
Kennedy, John
Langford, Chris
Mew, Chris
Schwab, Peter
Tuck, Michael

At least 5
Ayres, Gary
Brereton, Dermott
Buckenara, Gary
DiPierdomenico, Robert
Dunstall, Jason
Greene, Russell
Kennedy, John
Langford, Chris
Mew, Chris
Platten, John
Schwab, Peter
Tuck, Michael

At least 4.
Ayres, Gary
Brereton, Dermott
Buckenara, Gary
Collins, Andrew
Curran, Peter
Dear, Greg
DiPierdomenico, Robert
Dunstall, Jason
Greene, Russell
Kennedy, John
Langford, Chris
Loveridge, Richard
Mew, Chris
Platten, John
Pritchard, Darrin
Russo, Peter
Schwab, Peter
Tuck, Michael
Wallace, Terry

At least 3
Abbott, Paul
Ayres, Gary
Brereton, Dermott
Buckenara, Gary
Collins, Andrew
Curran, Peter
Dear, Greg
DiPierdomenico, Robert
Dunstall, Jason
Eade, Rodney
Greene, Russell
Judge, Ken
Kennedy, John
Langford, Chris
Loveridge, Richard
Matthews, Leigh
McCarthy, Michael
Mew, Chris
Morris, Russell
Morrissey, James
OHalloran, David
Platten, John
Pritchard, Darrin
Russo, Peter
Schwab, Peter
Tuck, Michael
Wallace, Terry

At least 2
Abbott, Paul
Anderson, Dean
Ayres, Gary
Brereton, Dermott
Buckenara, Gary
Byrne, Michael
Collins, Andrew
Condon, Anthony
Curran, Peter
Dear, Greg
Dear, Paul
DiPierdomenico, Robert
Dunstall, Jason
Eade, Rodney
Greene, Russell
Hall, Tony
Jencke, Ray
Judge, Ken
Kennedy, John
Langford, Chris
Lester-Smith, Rod
Loveridge, Richard
Maginness, Scott
Matthews, Leigh
McCarthy, Michael
Mew, Chris
Morris, Russell
Morrissey, James
OHalloran, David
Paton, Ian
Platten, John
Pritchard, Darrin
Robertson, Colin
Russo, Peter
Schwab, Peter
Tuck, Michael
Wallace, Terry
Wittman, Chris

At least 1
Abbott, Paul
Allan, Ben
Anderson, Dean
Ayres, Gary
Brereton, Dermott
Buckenara, Gary
Byrne, Michael
Collins, Andrew
Condon, Anthony
Curran, Peter
Dear, Greg
Dear, Paul
DiPierdomenico, Robert
Dunstall, Jason
Eade, Rodney
Gowers, Andrew
Greene, Russell
Hall, Tony
Handley, Robert
Hudson, Paul
Jarman, Darren
Jencke, Ray
Judge, Ken
Kennedy, John
Knights, Peter
Langford, Chris
Lawrence, Stephen
Lester-Smith, Rod
Loveridge, Richard
Madigan, Greg
Maginness, Scott
Matthews, Leigh
McCarthy, Michael
Mew, Chris
Morris, Russell
Morrissey, James
OHalloran, David
Paton, Ian
Platten, John
Pritchard, Darrin
Robertson, Colin
Russo, Peter
Schwab, Peter
Tuck, Michael
Wallace, Terry
Wittman, Chris

 

[stemline]

so that will remain unless Tom is injured or misses a game for the next few years as I can see him winning the PCM again next year and likely the year after.

Worps upholds the stat as he played all 22 games. So still just the one game in our history without a past or future HFC B&F player.

 

[Lawsy]

I need to keep my mouth shut this pre-season, no unintentionally putting the moz on anyone this time.

 

[Todman]

Do people realise that Hawthorn's game against Geelong at Kardinia Park was the clubs 2,000th game. 984 wins. 1005 losses and 11 draws

 

[IdiotBox]

Silk has slipped by Madden to be number 6 on the Games Played list. Fingers crossed he gets the 5 required to fully pass Harvey (not just 4 and an alphabetic technicality).


Rank Games Player Teams
1. 432 Brent Harvey KA
2. 426 Michael Tuck HW
3. 403 Kevin Bartlett RI
4. 400 Dustin Fletcher ES
5. 383 Robert Harvey SK
6. 379* Shaun Burgoyne PA/HW
7. 378 Simon Madden ES

 

[grumbleguts]

V/AFL table since round 1 1960