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Opinion Rank our captains

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I haven't gone past captain 31, Fred Wooller, captain of the 63' premiership. the earliest I remember was No.35, Billy Goggin. But of all our captains since Goggin it is easier to rank the worst than the best. Tom Harley ranks as THE one in my time, as he presided over a middle order club, and played a major role in transforming it into a premiership outfit. Ling was good, but inherited a very talented team.

Of the earlier captains, I really admired Ian Nankervis. Pity he was a back pocketer by the time he became captain, but he still led by example.

As for the worst - Colbert takes the cake, but to be fair he never actually captained a H&A game before deserting Geelong.

Peake should never have been given the captaincy. Ditto Ablett Senior and Buddha Hocking IMO. Once he gave up the captaincy in 1995 it should never have been offered to him again.

Anyway, here's the official list in chronological order:

31 Fred Wooller 1963–1964
32 Graham Farmer 1965–1967
33 Bill Goggin 1968–1971
34 Doug Wade 1972
35 Geoff Ainsworth 1973
36 John "Sam" Newman 1974–1975
37 Bruce Nankervis 1976–1977
38 Ian Nankervis 1978–1981, 1983
39 Brian Peake 1982
40 Michael Turner 1984–1986
41 Damian Bourke 1987–1989
42 Andrew Bews 1990–1991
43 Mark Bairstow 1992–1994
44 Gary Ablett, Sr. 1995–1996
45 Ken Hinkley 1995
46 Garry Hocking 1995, 1999
47 Barry Stoneham 1995–1998
48 Leigh Colbert 1999
49 Ben Graham 2000–2002
50 Steven King 2003–2006
51 Tom Harley 2007–2009
52 Cameron Ling 2010–2011
53 Joel Selwood 2012–present
 
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Harley would be the best captain and the least talented player on that list.

Ling and Selwood would also be on the podium. However I think the role of captain and the selection process changed significantly after King.
 

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Hard to say personally.
I'd quickly go the last 3 in reverse order but I'd be over looking some great captains.
One thing that strikes me is how short most tenures have been, feel that's going to change with Selwood at the helm, they'll have to pry it away from his cold hard dead fingers.
 
For me, it's hard to split Harley and Selwood- for different reasons. Harley for kicking off the culture change- or being an important cog in the wheel of change- and Selwood for leading with his head and his heart, carrying the team on his shoulders and sometimes dragging them along behind him.
Think I'd pick Selwood if it came to the crunch.
 
Selwood will be captain for another 3 years depending if we get Dangerfield or not and hand it over so Danger gets 5 years otherwise Selwood will have it for 5 more
 
Selwood will be captain for another 3 years depending if we get Dangerfield or not and hand it over so Danger gets 5 years otherwise Selwood will have it for 5 more
Mitch Duncan will be captain after Selwood decides he's had enough.

You don't start handing the captaincy to players from outside the club.
 
Mitch Duncan will be captain after Selwood decides he's had enough.

You don't start handing the captaincy to players from outside the club.

Hinkley started at Fitzroy
Ablett started at Hawthorn
Harley started at Port Adelaide
Peake and Farmer were mature recruits from WAFL

Judd went to Carlton from WCE and was a great captain.
 
Surprised Harley only captained for three seasons - his impact was quite amazing in that time.

I am a huge fan of Ling. I reckon he was the leader of the 2001 draftees onwards.

Harley I think was a stronger figurehead and drove standards. Ling worked harder with the individuals and I think he was tactically much stronger, we have never replaced him as an on field coach.

Selwood is doing everything right too, but Ling and Harley were different sort of captains. They really improved their teams through their non-playing leadership. I don't think Selwood has achieved that yet.
 
Hinkley started at Fitzroy
Ablett started at Hawthorn
Harley started at Port Adelaide
Peake and Farmer were mature recruits from WAFL

Judd went to Carlton from WCE and was a great captain.
How have their respective sides fared? Culture is the most important aspect of a successful side.

Forget Harley as well, he only played 1 game for Port and was at Geelong for years before becoming captain.
 

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So you are saying Judd was a poor captain because his team was no good.
Yes and no. Judd is a poor captain, his body language is deplorable and he's selfish. I'm not surprised his side has fallen by the wayside, particularly when you bring a bloke into your club and make him captain and then pay him more than anyone else. It sets the tone and destroys a culture.

That's merely my opinion though.
 
"Son of God, post: 36392629, member: 35995"]Yes and no. Judd is a poor captain, his body language is deplorable and he's selfish. I'm not surprised his side has fallen by the wayside, particularly when you bring a bloke into your club and make him captain and then pay him more than anyone else. It sets the tone and destroys a culture.

That's merely my opinion though.

Judd Is a premiership captain.

Selwood is not.
 
Yes and no. Judd is a poor captain, his body language is deplorable and he's selfish. I'm not surprised his side has fallen by the wayside, particularly when you bring a bloke into your club and make him captain and then pay him more than anyone else. It sets the tone and destroys a culture.

That's merely my opinion though.
We'll be setting a tone and destroying our culture this year over Hawkins so what does it matter? He isn't our captain which makes it worse.
 

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Hinkley started at Fitzroy
Ablett started at Hawthorn
Harley started at Port Adelaide
Peake and Farmer were mature recruits from WAFL

Judd went to Carlton from WCE and was a great captain.
This is all true. But.... Harley played 95%+ of his games for Geelong. Peake was a failure as captain and his appointment was as hollow as things like that go, and Ablett and Hinkley were co-captains. To be honest I don't even remember Hinkley being captain, maybe because Ablett was so poor a choice as captain and he stole the limelight for the wrong reasons.
 
This is all true. But.... Harley played 95%+ of his games for Geelong. Peake was a failure as captain and his appointment was as hollow as things like that go, and Ablett and Hinkley were co-captains. To be honest I don't even remember Hinkley being captain, maybe because Ablett was so poor a choice as captain and he stole the limelight for the wrong reasons.

Was he? What exactly did he do wrong from 1994-1995? I do know he kicked 251 goals in those 2 seasons.
 
Harley would be the best captain and the least talented player on that list.

Ling and Selwood would also be on the podium. However I think the role of captain and the selection process changed significantly after King.

Totally disagree with that. I've seen every captain from Turner onwards and no way is Harley the least talented player of that lot. It seems like everyone has the 2009 Grand Final in their mind when they remember Harley as a player - he was a very good defender for us for nearly a decade.

He also did what so many deem as impossible too - he actually instituted player discipline and amazingly......stuck with it. The decision to drop Johnson for 5 weeks was very much Harley's.

Many may love Selwood as a player, but right now as a captain he isn't in Harley's league. Need a premiership medal or two to be in that discussion.
 
Yes and no. Judd is a poor captain, his body language is deplorable and he's selfish. I'm not surprised his side has fallen by the wayside, particularly when you bring a bloke into your club and make him captain and then pay him more than anyone else. It sets the tone and destroys a culture.

That's merely my opinion though.

You forget though - he sent back a bowl of chips. That gave him immortality.
 
Totally disagree with that. I've seen every captain from Turner onwards and no way is Harley the least talented player of that lot. It seems like everyone has the 2009 Grand Final in their mind when they remember Harley as a player - he was a very good defender for us for nearly a decade.

Name one captain since Turner that Harley had more natural talent than.
 
Was he? What exactly did he do wrong from 1994-1995? I do know he kicked 251 goals in those 2 seasons.
Nothing as a player on the field, but he was not a "team leader". And if you read the book on Ablett you get a sense of how aloof he was (he didn't even know who some of his teammates were), and what a peculiar individual he was / is. He was also poor communicator. Ablett's selection as a captain smacked of giving the job to the best player which does not always work in life.

If your recollection is different, please share.
 

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