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Analysis Ranking the most to least successful clubs this century

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The fact Brisbane bottomed out and needed help from the AFL after the crazy Voss days should go against them.

And this board piles on Geelong with the rorting talk, that lot have been getting kick backs for decades.

AFL always need a strong team in QLD to compete with rugby.
 

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Spoons are the opposite of flags.

So if a flag is rated as 50 points, then a spoon should be -50 points

Grand final 25
Prelim 15
Top 4 10
Finals 5
Using this weighted points system, this is how it comes out.

2001-2025 (excluding -50 for each wooden spoon)
  1. Geelong = 420
  2. Brisbane Lions = 355
  3. Sydney = 315
  4. Collingwood = 310
  5. Hawthorn = 305
  6. West Coast = 215
  7. Richmond = 200
  8. Port Adelaide = 200
  9. Western Bulldogs = 150
  10. Adelaide = 130
  11. St Kilda = 115
  12. Melbourne = 105
  13. GWS = 95
  14. Fremantle = 90
  15. North Melbourne = 70
  16. Essendon = 70
  17. Carlton = 45
  18. Gold Coast = 5

2001-2025 (including -50 for each wooden spoon)
  1. Geelong = 420
  2. Sydney = 315
  3. Collingwood = 310
  4. Hawthorn = 305
  5. Brisbane Lions = 305
  6. Port Adelaide = 200
  7. Western Bulldogs = 100
  8. Adelaide = 80
  9. West Coast = 65
  10. St Kilda = 65
  11. Richmond = 50
  12. Fremantle = 40
  13. Essendon = 20
  14. Melbourne = 5
  15. GWS = -5
  16. North Melbourne = -30
  17. Gold Coast = -95
  18. Carlton = -205
 
Using this weighted points system, this is how it comes out.

2001-2025 (excluding -50 for each wooden spoon)
  1. Geelong = 420
  2. Brisbane Lions = 355
  3. Sydney = 315
  4. Collingwood = 310
  5. Hawthorn = 305
  6. West Coast = 215
  7. Richmond = 200
  8. Port Adelaide = 200
  9. Western Bulldogs = 150
  10. Adelaide = 130
  11. St Kilda = 115
  12. Melbourne = 105
  13. GWS = 95
  14. Fremantle = 90
  15. North Melbourne = 70
  16. Essendon = 70
  17. Carlton = 45
  18. Gold Coast = 5

2001-2025 (including -50 for each wooden spoon)
  1. Geelong = 420
  2. Sydney = 315
  3. Collingwood = 310
  4. Hawthorn = 305
  5. Brisbane Lions = 305
  6. Port Adelaide = 200
  7. Western Bulldogs = 100
  8. Adelaide = 80
  9. West Coast = 65
  10. St Kilda = 65
  11. Richmond = 50
  12. Fremantle = 40
  13. Essendon = 20
  14. Melbourne = 5
  15. GWS = -5
  16. North Melbourne = -30
  17. Gold Coast = -95
  18. Carlton = -205
Geez Carlton are shite
 
8 teams with no premiership, but only one with a winning record overall.

I can guarantee that Brisbane, Geelong, Sydney, Hawthorn or Collingwood are one of the Grand Final teams in 2026.

All teams apart from Gold Coast have made it to the Grand Final at least once (in their overall history).
 
Suns should be excluded since they haven't existed 25 years.

Carleton is the easy answer, which is shocking how a team could be worse than the Roos.
We were solid if not spectacular 2000-2016, we actually had one of the better H&A records in that time. Since then we have been impressively bad
 
The fact Brisbane bottomed out and needed help from the AFL after the crazy Voss days should go against them.

And this board piles on Geelong with the rorting talk, that lot have been getting kick backs for decades.

AFL always need a strong team in QLD to compete with rugby.
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The fact Brisbane bottomed out and needed help from the AFL after the crazy Voss days should go against them.

And this board piles on Geelong with the rorting talk, that lot have been getting kick backs for decades.

AFL always need a strong team in QLD to compete with rugby.

A bit unhappy are you?
 
Using this weighted points system, this is how it comes out.

2001-2025 (excluding -50 for each wooden spoon)
  1. Geelong = 420
  2. Brisbane Lions = 355
  3. Sydney = 315
  4. Collingwood = 310
  5. Hawthorn = 305
  6. West Coast = 215
  7. Richmond = 200
  8. Port Adelaide = 200
  9. Western Bulldogs = 150
  10. Adelaide = 130
  11. St Kilda = 115
  12. Melbourne = 105
  13. GWS = 95
  14. Fremantle = 90
  15. North Melbourne = 70
  16. Essendon = 70
  17. Carlton = 45
  18. Gold Coast = 5

2001-2025 (including -50 for each wooden spoon)
  1. Geelong = 420
  2. Sydney = 315
  3. Collingwood = 310
  4. Hawthorn = 305
  5. Brisbane Lions = 305
  6. Port Adelaide = 200
  7. Western Bulldogs = 100
  8. Adelaide = 80
  9. West Coast = 65
  10. St Kilda = 65
  11. Richmond = 50
  12. Fremantle = 40
  13. Essendon = 20
  14. Melbourne = 5
  15. GWS = -5
  16. North Melbourne = -30
  17. Gold Coast = -95
  18. Carlton = -205
Any measure that has Port Adelaide in the top half for success this century, is flawed.
 

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Any measure that has Port Adelaide in the top half for success this century, is flawed.

and who would you put above them genius? Port's had 13 final appearances this century with 9 of them in the top four and one season in the bottom two, they really should be more successful than what they are.
 
Spoons are the opposite of flags.

So if a flag is rated as 50 points, then a spoon should be -50 points

Grand final 25
Prelim 15
Top 4 10
Finals 5
Flags not weighted enough.

Would you rather make the GF twice for two losses or only once and win? This scale says they’re the same.

I would do at least 100 for a flag at least, then go down.

And really the only measure that matters is number of flags.

If you’re not first, you’re last.
 
and who would you put above them genius? Port's had 13 final appearances this century with 9 of them in the top four and one season in the bottom two, they really should be more successful than what they are.

Why do people use personal jibes when they’re offered an opinion?

It’s my opinion, that’s all. Possibly you’ve hit it on the head, success is relative to what you should have been able to achieve, and Port has underperformed massively.
 
25 years of Collingwood history has bought about 2 Premierships from 7 Grand Finals.

Meanwhile in the same period other clubs have won more than Collingwood's 2 Premierships. You must enjoy watching Collingwood lose Grand Finals by the sounds of it, after all you did say "I'm pretty comfortable in saying I've experienced a lot more joy watching and supporting Collingwood over the last 25 years"
You support a flash in the pan team. Come back and flex in another 35 years when you may win one again, cellar dweller.
 
Using this weighted points system, this is how it comes out.

2001-2025 (excluding -50 for each wooden spoon)
  1. Geelong = 420
  2. Brisbane Lions = 355
  3. Sydney = 315
  4. Collingwood = 310
  5. Hawthorn = 305
  6. West Coast = 215
  7. Richmond = 200
  8. Port Adelaide = 200
  9. Western Bulldogs = 150
  10. Adelaide = 130
  11. St Kilda = 115
  12. Melbourne = 105
  13. GWS = 95
  14. Fremantle = 90
  15. North Melbourne = 70
  16. Essendon = 70
  17. Carlton = 45
  18. Gold Coast = 5

2001-2025 (including -50 for each wooden spoon)
  1. Geelong = 420
  2. Sydney = 315
  3. Collingwood = 310
  4. Hawthorn = 305
  5. Brisbane Lions = 305
  6. Port Adelaide = 200
  7. Western Bulldogs = 100
  8. Adelaide = 80
  9. West Coast = 65
  10. St Kilda = 65
  11. Richmond = 50
  12. Fremantle = 40
  13. Essendon = 20
  14. Melbourne = 5
  15. GWS = -5
  16. North Melbourne = -30
  17. Gold Coast = -95
  18. Carlton = -205
Silly metric, a spoon doesn't take away a flag. Ask a saints, Carlton or bombers fan how many spoons they'd endure for 1 flag and see what they say. Us finishing 18th last season doesn't take away one of our flags.
The first measurement by the OP was correct, just like the Olympic medal tally that ranks gold first above everything else. You dont see a country with 10 bronze medals ranked above a country with 1 gold.
Richmond > Collingwood this century and since 1960.
Pies do have us covered just after world war 1 though.
 

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8 teams with no premiership, but only one with a winning record overall.

I can guarantee that Brisbane, Geelong, Sydney, Hawthorn or Collingwood are one of the Grand Final teams in 2026.

All teams apart from Gold Coast have made it to the Grand Final at least once (in their overall history).
Going out on a limb there picking one of the top 4 plus the previous years grand finalist to make the 2026 decider.
 
Flags not weighted enough.

Would you rather make the GF twice for two losses or only once and win? This scale says they’re the same.

I would do at least 100 for a flag at least, then go down.

And really the only measure that matters is number of flags.

If you’re not first, you’re last.
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