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[Demon Revival]

ok just did some quick reading on it

Scully had arthroscopic surgery to repair a chipped patella. and was required to take a month off
this is why he missed draft camp and state screenings.

Thanks Omit but that was a well known fact, my question is, did he just sit around eating pizza & mars bars for a month or as stated previously, he is so committed to making the big time, he did some sort of training????

 

[The Dr]

Thanks Omit but that was a well known fact, my question is, did he just sit around eating pizza & mars bars for a month or as stated previously, he is so committed to making the big time, he did some sort of training????

I doubt someone like Scully would sit around eating pizza and mars bars....his commitment and professionalism is beyond doubt.

So, with his knee surgery, he might not have been able to do much runing, so the club has put him on a "modified program"...

Can't see any issues there.

 

[omit]

he had surgery on his knee chances are he couldn't train for at least a month
while he wouldn't have been eating mars bars and pizza. he will be behind the 8 ball fitness wise, hence his modified program

 

[RPetterd15]

Gawn finished Yr12 this year. He said during the draft when pick 29 passed "looks like a may go to schoolies after all".

 

[siknutta]

brad miller cannot play football, we have persisted with him for years and years just to get nothing, surely we all no by now that his time is pretty much up with us, its completely frustrating watchin him knowing he cant offer anything to us, apart from the last half the year last season because he was the ultimate tanking player, people rubbish newton and seem to leave brad miller out of it, i reckon he deserves to be rubbished more than him. the melbourne football club will never play finals with brad miller at chf!

 

[Demon Revival]

brad miller cannot play football, we have persisted with him for years and years just to get nothing, surely we all no by now that his time is pretty much up with us, its completely frustrating watchin him knowing he cant offer anything to us, apart from the last half the year last season because he was the ultimate tanking player, people rubbish newton and seem to leave brad miller out of it, i reckon he deserves to be rubbished more than him. the melbourne football club will never play finals with brad miller at chf!

Written & Spoken by Jack Newton.....

 

[dee64]

Trengove would have been doing preseason training with Sturt. not sure about where Scully would have trained, possibly with a vfl club?

No he hasn't. Heard an interview on SEN with him, and due to school exams, he's done very little other than some running, since the end of the season.

But Trengove's core fitness level should be at a pretty high level given the amount of SANFL finals game time he had. This is why I think he's the most likely of the draftees to be picked in round 1.

 

[BigSexc]

load up with Melbourne rookies in your SC team!

 

[master bate]

brad miller cannot play football, we have persisted with him for years and years just to get nothing, surely we all no by now that his time is pretty much up with us, its completely frustrating watchin him knowing he cant offer anything to us, apart from the last half the year last season because he was the ultimate tanking player, people rubbish newton and seem to leave brad miller out of it, i reckon he deserves to be rubbished more than him. the melbourne football club will never play finals with brad miller at chf!

He went pretty well in the final against Freo at Subi.

But yes I ultimately agree with you. He isn't a Cam Mooney who's biggest worry is infront of the sticks. Miller also struggles to get involved in play (plays many games with minimal possessions), his general footskills are poor and he even lacks physical aggression these days.

 

[00Stinger]

He went pretty well in the final against Freo at Subi.

But yes I ultimately agree with you. He isn't a Cam Mooney who's biggest worry is infront of the sticks. Miller also struggles to get involved in play (plays many games with minimal possessions), his general footskills are poor and he even lacks physical aggression these days.

He still needs to play in the team. Dont forget with some of the shit delivery he gets, no wonder he goes missing from games

 

[MicksterD]

He went pretty well in the final against Freo at Subi.

But yes I ultimately agree with you. He isn't a Cam Mooney who's biggest worry is infront of the sticks. Miller also struggles to get involved in play (plays many games with minimal possessions), his general footskills are poor and he even lacks physical aggression these days.

Miller isn't a ball magnet but jeez his missus is a good sort. He gets a spot in my round 1 team just on that basis alone

 

[eliasd82]

Brad Green is and interesting one. He could also come under some pressure from Tapscott on a flank if he is as AFL ready as he appears. However does anyone else think Green could play out of the goal square? He is one of the best set shots on goal in the AFL, as a great set of hands and you know he will hit the pack every time (not that I want to use him as a battering ram).

I have been saying this the last 8 years... Greeny has lost a little of his goal set accuracey now cause he has spend some much time in the midfield over his career.. but Bails should be playing him forward now with Trengove and Scully (natural midfeilders) injected into that side.

Also I expect the gove to play round 1 not Scully though. Tapscott might sneak in round one depending where Maric and Wonas are at..
Doubt we will see Gawn this year, possibly early the year after.

 

[lionshine]

Guys this is from an outsiders point of view but I belive Melbournes future core group is Bennel, Strauss, Blease, Jetta, Scully, Trengove, Watts, Gysberts, Tapscott, Gawn and Jurrah( in no paticular order) all though a bit to early to tell on some of them so therefore I think Melbourne will play most of them together so they gel! So I think you will and this just being my opinion remember play Wattts, Jurrah, Scully, Trengove, Bennell, Jetta, Blease and maybe Strauss from Round 1 onwards. Just my 2 cents

 

[stickman11]

Reckon our two big improvers this year will be Maric and Petterd.

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

I have been saying this the last 8 years... Greeny has lost a little of his goal set accuracy now cause he's spent a lot of time in the midfield over his career.. but Bails should be playing him forward now with Trengove and Scully (natural midfielders) injected into that side.

Good point about Greeny here... certainly worth trying him in that kind of role IMO.

 

[saj_21]

I have been saying this the last 8 years... Greeny has lost a little of his goal set accuracey now cause he has spend some much time in the midfield over his career.. but Bails should be playing him forward now with Trengove and Scully (natural midfeilders) injected into that side.

I think we have all suggested green to go forward over the last 2 years, whoever his experience and skill has been used down back were the ball has spent a bit of time over the past 2 years.

I would love to see Green go forward, and if he did would most likely lead our goal kicking. Hoever at 28 or 29 this would be a stop gap measure, much like Robbo would of been this year. Sure we may win 1, 2 or 3 more games with green up forward, but it may cost timely development for the likes of Jurrah and Watts.

Bailey has stated he is not there for a quick fix, and the club has shown that with the kids they have drafted, we also need to back them up by playing them in the positions they will be playing for the next 10 years. Given they are ready for that role physically, mentally and their form warrants a spot in the 22.

 

[master bate]

I don't think Green would hurt development. I think having Green in the forward line along with Bruce in the backline provides stability for inexperienced players. I'd like to see him play 30% full forward, 30% wing, 30% half forward. He'll be playing in a similar role to Bate, Sylvia and Petterd where with good marking ability on the lead and good delivery he will help out Jurrah and Watts not hinder their development.

 

[Andy_Mac]

I think we have all suggested green to go forward over the last 2 years, whoever his experience and skill has been used down back were the ball has spent a bit of time over the past 2 years.

I would love to see Green go forward, and if he did would most likely lead our goal kicking. Hoever at 28 or 29 this would be a stop gap measure, much like Robbo would of been this year. Sure we may win 1, 2 or 3 more games with green up forward, but it may cost timely development for the likes of Jurrah and Watts.

Bailey has stated he is not there for a quick fix, and the club has shown that with the kids they have drafted, we also need to back them up by playing them in the positions they will be playing for the next 10 years. Given they are ready for that role physically, mentally and their form warrants a spot in the 22.

Whilst I understand and agree with what you are saying it’s a bit of a contradiction in terms. If and when Watts form dictates a senior selection playing him one out in the goal square against a Boak or Scarlett just because that’s where he will play most of his footy is suicide. I think that we should continue to play him on a forward flank/wing, and as he finds his feat at AFL level move him into KP. We need to remember he has played very little senior footy, what was it April (?) this year he was still playing some footy for Brighton Grammar.

That said given the other options height wise up forward Jack may draw the key defenders by default.

 

[saj_21]

Whilst I understand and agree with what you are saying it’s a bit of a contradiction in terms. If and when Watts form dictates a senior selection playing him one out in the goal square against a Boak or Scarlett just because that’s where he will play most of his footy is suicide. I think that we should continue to play him on a forward flank/wing, and as he finds his feat at AFL level move him into KP. We need to remember he has played very little senior footy, what was it April (?) this year he was still playing some footy for Brighton Grammar.

That said given the other options height wise up forward Jack may draw the key defenders by default.

Will agree its a bit of a contradiction, we can't throw them to the wolves and i understand Watts can't be relied on week in week out as the KPF just yet. I was talking more long term as opposed to just next year, i just see playing Green at full forward a stop gap but realise we don't have much else on offer.

The fact that Green rarely plays one out of the goal square has me thinking the Coaching staff are thinking something along those lines. Frawley (2009) and Garland (2008) were thrown into the deep so to speak and were asked to fill big roles down back and it only enhanced their improvement.

 

[00Stinger]

I don't think Green would hurt development. I think having Green in the forward line along with Bruce in the backline provides stability for inexperienced players. I'd like to see him play 30% full forward, 30% wing, 30% half forward. He'll be playing in a similar role to Bate, Sylvia and Petterd where with good marking ability on the lead and good delivery he will help out Jurrah and Watts not hinder their development.

Agree.
However I think we should always have one of McDonald/Bruce/green in the forward line,midfield and backline at all times.

 

[Supermercado]

Looks like you can wipe your GAWN fantasies away.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a.../story-e6frf9jf-1225805777768?from=public_rss
That injury might have scared off a few AFL clubs on draft day, but the Demons took the long-term approach and were delighted he was still available with their fifth pick at No.34.

Even though he is unlikely to be ready to play before June, the ambitious Gawn has not ruled out breaking into the Demons' senior side by the end of 2010.

 

[Gibbo_88]

Pretty much all of you have both Trengove and Scully playing in round 1 which I don't think will happen. I think they would be better off showing they deserve a spot in the reserves team so they feel like they have actually earned it instead of this "you were the top draft picks so that means you get to play straight away mentality" that a few of you seem to have. Sure if they blow everyone away at how good they are in the NAB cup that there is no point in playing them in the reserves but Scully at 74 kg now (if thats correct) is pretty light to be playing AFL and will need to put on a few kilo's to be able to compete against your average midfielder.

 

[master bate]

Pretty much all of you have both Trengove and Scully playing in round 1 which I don't think will happen. I think they would be better off showing they deserve a spot in the reserves team so they feel like they have actually earned it instead of this "you were the top draft picks so that means you get to play straight away mentality" that a few of you seem to have. Sure if they blow everyone away at how good they are in the NAB cup that there is no point in playing them in the reserves but Scully at 74 kg now (if thats correct) is pretty light to be playing AFL and will need to put on a few kilo's to be able to compete against your average midfielder.

They don't have to blow everyone away in the NAB cup, they just have to show enough to see that they deserve selection. I want the best 22 playing in round 1, I don't want them wasted in the VFL.

As for Scully being light - Stephen Hill from Freo played 22 games last year, he'd be as light as Scully. Rich played from round 1 did he not? Gibbs, Murphy, Palmer, Zeibel, Beams plenty of high rated midfielders play early. In a side that will still not be world beaters next year, if fit then I'm backing Scully and Trengove to play.

 

[saj_21]

Looks like you can wipe your GAWN fantasies away.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a.../story-e6frf9jf-1225805777768?from=public_rss
That injury might have scared off a few AFL clubs on draft day, but the Demons took the long-term approach and were delighted he was still available with their fifth pick at No.34.

Even though he is unlikely to be ready to play before June, the ambitious Gawn has not ruled out breaking into the Demons' senior side by the end of 2010.

First i have heard of this injury, its no big deal he is only young i believe turning 18 in a couple of weeks. Even if fit i would of only expected to see Gawn play for melbourne if we had injuries to our ruck stocks as we did this year. I think the second half of this year should be served as a pre preseason as we did with grimes back in 2008.

I am not expecting to much from this kid in the first 2-3 years, as he matures into his body.

 

[Gibbo_88]

They don't have to blow everyone away in the NAB cup, they just have to show enough to see that they deserve selection. I want the best 22 playing in round 1, I don't want them wasted in the VFL.

As for Scully being light - Stephen Hill from Freo played 22 games last year, he'd be as light as Scully. Rich played from round 1 did he not? Gibbs, Murphy, Palmer, Zeibel, Beams plenty of high rated midfielders play early. In a side that will still not be world beaters next year, if fit then I'm backing Scully and Trengove to play.

Have a loot at the size of Rich's body when he started at Brisbane and compare it to Scully and Trengove. Rich had already been playing regular senior footy so its not really comparable, he showed in the NAB cup that there was no point in letting him play in the reserves because he wouldn't learn anything new at that level and he already had the body to play inside mid against anyone from round 1, it was only his fitness that he was lacking. The media said how he was the most ready-made player and he proved he was and I haven't seen in the media how your top 2 picks are ready-made players and will slot into a team in round 1.

Just seems like from what your coach and president have said that they would rather be patient with the players till they're 100% ready then chuck them in the deep end and I just doubt both will play round 1 but we will see in a few months time.