Autopsy Rd 11 Vent thread Carlton vs ... some team

[BlueBelle]

Henderson > Carlisle

 

[thylacine60]

If you want to boil it down, we had 90 seconds of silly, at the wrong time of the game.

We were outdone tactically for the first 20 minutes, and showed at least we have a Plan-B.

We're not a bad side.

Where did I say we're a bad side? Just said we are done as a contender this year.

 

[thylacine60]

Henderson > Carlisle

He was unbelievable last night, our best besides Waite.

 

[BlueBelle]

Still listening to Crunch Time and Huddo, Wallsy, Robbo and Kingy all agreed that Hendo should've went forward in the dying minutes. Anybody disagree with that?

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Where did I say we're a bad side? Just said we are done as a contender this year.

Point taken.

Point I make is, after 20 minutes it looked like the old burn them off tactic had gone down the gurgler, we had a rethink and went all Collingwood 2010, which was pretty effective.

As a team this year, we've been thereabouts, obviously the talent is there, flexibility has been a bonus, just needs that bit of polish.

Still reckon we are a contender.

 

[BlueBelle]

Where did I say we're a bad side? Just said we are done as a contender this year.

I'm not giving up just yet. We'll certainly know more over the next month.

 

[pinot]

We have polish flexibility and class what we lack is mental strength holding teams at bay then beating them at the finish line.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Eddie was "shithouse" because he's not match ready. Carrazzo probably won't be either, so why would we bring him in without a run in the VFL? Surely that's setting him up to be "shithouse" against the Hawks?

Good call MEB, Carrazzo definitely wont be ready and will need time in the 2's.

 

[Azul]

My idea of our season being alive is the time we spend as a premiership contender. That's the time we spend as a top four chance. That's gone now.

My dream of winning the premiership from 9th spot on the ladder after Essendon are disqualified is still alive though, right?

 

[Silvagnis]

We have polish flexibility and class what we lack is mental strength holding teams at bay then beating them at the finish line.

Mick's inheritance from Ratten who had five seasons to change this.

 

[NumberEight]

Still listening to Crunch Time and Huddo, Wallsy, Robbo and Kingy all agreed that Hendo should've went forward in the dying minutes. Anybody disagree with that?

I was screaming for this in the 3rd quarter when Waite went quiet. We needed another target.

 

[thylacine60]

Still listening to Crunch Time and Huddo, Wallsy, Robbo and Kingy all agreed that Hendo should've went forward in the dying minutes. Anybody disagree with that?

A glaring problem with that.

 

[Silvagnis]

Yarran should have started. Lucas sub. What genius decided otherwise?

Couldn't fault naming Lucas who started well and had his chances. Mick said we needed a different balance that wasn't four smalls in Betts, Garlett, Armfield and Yarran. Betts could have been the sub. Wonder if we would be better off with a tougher medium such as Laidler. Need a kick like Laids in the team. Might see Laids next round.

 

[Azul]

When Carlisle and Hurley were having bad nights, the coach was able to switch them to the opposite end. The only one of our team capable of this is Lachie but that leaves no one to fill CHB.

It's definitely a problem that the taller sides over the next 5 matches (Hawks, Syd, North) will try to exploit.

The obvious candidate is Sam Rowe, who has been playing in D50. NB: Laidler as a forward pocket in the VFL, also.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

ok i really think its time for judd to be moved to the half back flank he would be great back there and he just cant kick for goal so no use being in the forward line simpson back to a wing and lucas to the bullants to learn how to tackle and at least contest in the air and the ground. yarran needs a rocket up him thinks he can play like a millionire when the games on the line. casboult was great mclean was awesome. white great effort a bit slow though with him and henderson back there need a bit more pace down back judd would give that. laidler needs to come back in we know what hes capable of. malthouse needs to bring the sub onearlier and stop being so pig headed about not doing it. his tactics with the sub are ridiculous and have been a major reason why we have fallen short and couple of times menzel is the perfecr sub in my opinion and should be playing that role . but anyway we all need to settle down a bit and realise that we have the makings of a priemeiership side he

Judd cant defend so why would he be played in the backline ??

 

[DrEvil]

Judd kicking the goal would have iced the game at that point. 36 points down and with Carlton building a full head of steam, you would have seen a lot of dons players start dropping their heads... but they scored on the rebound and gave them a lift.

But hey... Judds a star with a load of runs on the board while Lucas is still a kid starting his career... guess some of our supporters like playing the blame game...

Judd kicked from 50 out, Lucas from 5 out.

 

[Silvagnis]

In fairness to Carlisle Waite kicked 3 of his 7 on other opponents and another 2 when Carlisle left him to try and prevent another Carlton player from kicking a goal.

It was a bigger belting than Nick Riewoldt dished out to Henderson. Yet Lachie staged a genuine turnaround in form to go forward and kick three goals.

The last kick inside 50 was never a threat with the numbers Essendon had back. Lot of his marks were from our poor skills and delivery.

 

[SBYM]

Sadly it is true but we're one "real" win away from changing that.

Next week maybe?

Ken oath.

At the very least, we'll be able to gauge somewhat the degree to which MM has been able to instill a modicum of resilience into the group. Last night was easily our most disappointing loss of the year, will be interesting to see how 'MM's boys' respond...

And no better team atm to test ourselves against.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

In fairness to Carlisle Waite kicked 3 of his 7 on other opponents and another 2 when Carlisle left him to try and prevent another Carlton player from kicking a goal.

The reason Waite kicked 3 whilst on other opponents is because he wasn't good enough to play on him and a switch had to be made.

Pretty sure most of Waite's goals were from lead mark and kick situations or contested marks, so leaving him alone could not of happened unless you are very loose or poor.

 

[Wickzki]

Sadly we have a pea heart player that needs to be dumped.

 

[Danielrocks123]

Wallsy just stated that the Carlton Coaches sat on their hands in the last 30 mins

Yeh i heard that Casboult was in the ruck for to long in the fourth Ryder helped them get two goals and get momentum

 

[Wickzki]

Brett Ratten surely would not have done as poor a job as Malthouse did last night.

In fact, we have not had a single win this year that you could legitimately say "Y'know we would have lost that game last year."

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Doubt I've seen a better umpired game. Absolutely brilliant effort by the umps. Looks like they've told KB and his cronies to **** off wrecking the game. Top effort last night.

I agree, can only remember 1 non decision which should of been paid (Judd caught someone red hot dropping the ball) but they dont pay that anymore

 

[Sam The Doc]

Fat Lady was ready for that Lucas shot at goal. Shame Garlett didn't have the shot himself.
I have tried to like Lucas but it is just not going to happen..Anyone who misses those goals has no right to play AFL.

 

[Blue Dangerfield]

Surprised Henderson wasn't shifted forward when we stopped taking marks inside 50.

I thought White did a good defensive job on Crameri last night, but he never advances the ball when he takes a mark. He 8/10 will kick backwards to the person who kicked it to him.

I'd like to see us bring in another defender to give us the sort of flexibility that essendon had with hurly last night. Laids or Watson in for the hawks.