Game Day Rd 12, 2013 - Fremantle v Brisbane

[Ceebee]

So it'll be...
Out: McKeever, ?, ?
In: Brown, Merrett, Maguire

Merrett to FF? So probably Lisle out?

Paperone would have been good today.

Lisle was pretty good.

 

[GabbaTRON]

Happy with Lisle's kicking but the marking in front of goal needs aggression.

 

[theteamtobeat]

Lisle, Mayes, Lester, Golby and Harwood were good today.

 

[blynd_freddie]

I asked for effort, and I got it.

Keeping with a top 4 team for 3 quarters isn't anything to sneeze at, and it's something to build on for next week against Geelong.

I really enjoyed Patersons though, a very nice ground even if it was a little purple.

Can get that with a lot of dope(s).


( refer - purple haze no suggestion of your friends/close acquaintances seated nearby of course!)

 

[Harris Specter]

Things I learned from this game.​

Clarke is a quality defender, and will be one of the best in the competition when he starts to mature. His spoiling and 1 on 1 work is top-notch. He’s so composed under pressure and knows when to go back with the flight or when to play body-on-body. Yet again, we’ve struck gold in the rookie draft. Shout out to Patfull too who did a good job on Ballantyne. Sometimes, I feel he’s too casual in the way he goes about it, especially when kicking to a team-mate, his disposal was very iffy.

The 3 worst commentators in the AFL, and we got them. Talking about Zac Tuohy's kicking action in a game between Brisbane and Fremantle, wtf. Umpiring was good in the sense that they let the game go on, but far too many obvious free kicks that weren’t paid to the Lions. And the consistency is the main part, a HTB decision that wasn’t paid to the Lions was paid to the Dockers about 10 minutes later. Quite frustrating.

McKeever is not AFL standard, they persist and persist, but he simply doesn't have what it takes apart from endurance. Time to relegate him to reserves. He's just not good enough.

Zorko, having the 2nd year blues. Nowhere near his best, and I feel like he needs Green to be back with him in the senior side. We lacked pace today, and apart from Zorko and Bewick in the forward line, we had no one else. Might be injury, or just poor form, but not enough output from him. Might have a stint in the reserves soon.

Mayes is all class. Loved seeing him back in the team and kicking very well. We have to pump games into him and manage him well. Lester was another one I was impressed by. Genuine inside midfielder, who got the ball out numerous times, digging in the packs and working hard for the footy.

Great to see Leuenberger, Rich, Rockliff and Golby get through the game okay. Rich and Golby were the more prominent ones, Leuenberger wasn't far off his best, just needed the midfielders to gel a bit better. First time this year we've played without Moloney, and it showed how much we miss him. Hopefully we can get him back.

No idea why Black was subbed, but I'm not going to question it. Perhaps it's player management, 34 year old body after a 6 hour flight, but felt sorry for Black in his milestone match. To Voss’s credit, the Dockers were starting to impose themselves aggressively, and we needed some pace in the midfield.

Lisle was good today, he showed glimpses of what he can do, and he has finally learned to command the footy, run at it and create a genuine scoring chance. Will be interesting to see how he backs it up with Brown back next week.


Adcock, if he wasn’t co-captain, he would have been relegated to the reserves. He tackles well, and runs through the midfield but that’s it. He played so much better, with more freedom, when he wasn’t captain. Perhaps it’s time to give it back to Browny, or if he doesn’t want it, give it to the future of the Lions, Rockliff and Rich.

Fremantle are an okay team, not going to win the premiership though. They are hugely overrated, turn it over too many times, and the final margin of 40 points flatters them. The amount of times the young Lions were allowed to cut through the corridor, create passages of play, and make scoring chances was nice to see. If only our finishing was a bit better though, we might have been in with a real shot.

Vossy out-coached Lyon today. He absolutely destroyed him. We were able to have a spare man back for the long bomb, spread from contests quite well, it's frustrating that the players let him down. Too many turnovers, skill errors, kicking into marks, not lowering eyes, kicking for goal; all basic skills that shouldn't be this bad after a bye. Players need to work on their decision making and knowing when to make the right disposal.

Lastly, it was a frustrating game, yes. But it was tight, contested footy nearly the whole way through. We got back half our experienced side, and with Brown and Merrett next week returning, times are looking good Lions fans, just stick through the tough times.

 

[patfullfankezz]

Not that I've read through the thread, but we had 43 inside 50s to their 48.

I'm not to upset about that at all. It looks like somethings gone right.

 

[Harris Specter]

Not that I've read through the thread, but we had 43 inside 50s to their 48.

I'm not to upset about that at all. It looks like somethings gone right.

Yup, it's what we do when we get in there that's hurting us at the moment. Cannot convert our chances.

 

[patfullfankezz]

Can get that with a lot of dope.

( refer - purple haze no suggestion of your friends/close acquaintances seated nearby of course!)

There were quite a few dopes sitting behind me today...they didn't know who they were barracking for, let alone who was playing!

 

[blynd_freddie]

There were quite a few dopes sitting behind me today...they didn't know who they were barracking for, let alone who was playing!

sorry 'bout the strike out - short cut key s in [] sorry

 

[patfullfankezz]

Yup, it's what we do when we get in there that's hurting us at the moment. Cannot convert our chances.

At least we're getting it in there. Which means it's not in the oppositions forward 50 (hypothetically of course, one could argue that in another dimension the ball could be in the opposition forward 50 while in our dimension it's in our forward 50, but I'm not well-versed on all that quantum physics crap and will probably end up derailing the thread anyway).

 

[blynd_freddie]

There were quite a few dopes sitting behind me today...they didn't know who they were barracking for, let alone who was playing!

Guessing they will get home by 'parking' the car on one side of the Swan, stripping off then swimming across the river to a restaurant and phoning for a taxi home? [yeah wrong club but thinking they are the 'local' rules.]

 

[Scubaveg]

Docherty hasn't impressed me in any of his games to date.

Don't quite get the hype to be honest for someone drafted so highly.

Easily well down the pecking order behind the likes of Yeo, Golby and Harwood. Not just tonight, but those 3 have each impressed throughout the season.

Well i'm glad Gary O'Donnell is a far better judge.

 

[jackess]

Positives:

Lisle - took big grabs with bad service. Watching him live he runs to all the right spots all night just needs that aggression
Mayes - Lots of it and used it well
Golby - Lots of it but could've used it better. Disposal was shocking at training as well so maybe that foot is still causing him problems.
Clarke - you don't realise just how big a unit he is until you see him in person. He was the general as well and defended well.
Leuenberger - very good in patches.
Ash- Was dangerous and I thought he worked hard.
McKeever - played poorly but I liked the little things like blocking off the footy for Lisle.
Raines - good job on Hill
Harwood - solid down back
Lester - very solid in the middle
Vossy - at around half time clearly told our boys to take it on more. Which was the right idea.

Negatives:
Black - don't know what happened with his substitution.
Staker - liability. Had the wrong matchup but was woeful and in a young side needs to stand up.
Bewick - shocking at ground level and needs to fix that kicking action.

Just lacked class and didn't handle the pressure as well. If we were able to link up through the middle as we like we would've had more shots from straight in front and could've converted better and still been in it at 3/4 time.

Fremantle also used the ground a lot better and stopped us from rebounding.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Missed the game but I was following the scores online. Seemed like we were in the match but Dockers to just too good when it counted with pressure and ball use.

 

[dan_7]

Maguire in means Merrett to FF?
Is Goose a better KPD than Lisle a CHF/FF?

 

[jackess]

Maguire in means Merrett to FF?
Is Goose a better KPD than Lisle a CHF/FF?

I'd play Maguire down back and Merrett up forward as the second ruck as well as Brown and Lisle.

 

[Betty Noir]

How was Hanley? Seems he's been more quiet last couple of weeks, is he not coping with a hard tag?

 

[Ironmonger]

Can anyone tell me with any confidence who McGrath's opponent was today?

I thought at times it was Clancee Pearce. If that's the case, then it might tarnish McGrath's game a bit. Pearce was very busy for them.

 

[Apex61]

Put Big red up front !

 

[dan_7]

Well maybe...
FB: Golby / Maguire / Patfull
HB: Rich / Clarke / Adcock
C: Hanley / Redden / Mayes
HF: Bewick / Brown / Black
FF: Staker / Merrett / McGrath
Fol: Leuenberger / Rockliff / Maloney

Int from: Lisle / Zorko / Harwood / Lester / Yeo / Paperone

In: Merrett, Brown, Maguire, Maloney, Paperone

Out: McKeever, Raines, Docherty, ???? Two From Int list

 

[JasRulz63]

Can anyone tell me with any confidence who McGrath's opponent was today?

I thought at times it was Clancee Pearce. If that's the case, then it might tarnish McGrath's game a bit. Pearce was very busy for them.

Quit sure it was Spurr until the last when it was Pearce.

 

[Spoken4]

Things I learned from this game.​

Fremantle are an okay team, not going to win the premiership though. They are hugely overrated, turn it over too many times, and the final margin of 40 points flatters them. The amount of times the young Lions were allowed to cut through the corridor, create passages of play, and make scoring chances was nice to see. If only our finishing was a bit better though, we might have been in with a real shot.

Vossy out-coached Lyon today. He absolutely destroyed him. We were able to have a spare man back for the long bomb, spread from contests quite well, it's frustrating that the players let him down. Too many turnovers, skill errors, kicking into marks, not lowering eyes, kicking for goal; all basic skills that shouldn't be this bad after a bye. Players need to work on their decision making and knowing when to make the right disposal.

Not bad being 8.5 and 2 after missing your two best players (Pav and Sandi) all year, your second best ruckmen (Griffin) and your best small forward (Walters). Think Freo are better than an "okay team" if they are winning games with those outs.

Quality of game had a lot to do with the usual "bye hangover" and also competing against a team that was once again playing "flood footy".

Not sure if you could accurately suggest that one coach "absolutely destroyed" the other when your team loses by 40 points and is held to 6 goals.

 

[JasRulz63]

Brisbane were also coming off a bye...

Freo were flooding back just as much as Brisbane were I reckon. I've seen it mentioned a few times by Freo supporters that Brisbane weren't trying to win the game, which I honestly think is crap. Think we got within 13 points half way through the third, which is pretty good for a team that isn't trying to win. We also only lost the inside 50's 48-43, so it wasn't like the whole match was being played in Freo's forward half.

 

[Ceebee]

Not bad being 8.5 and 2 after missing your two best players (Pav and Sandi) all year, your second best ruckmen (Griffin) and your best small forward (Walters). Think Freo are better than an "okay team" if they are winning games with those outs.

Quality of game had a lot to do with the usual "bye hangover" and also competing against a team that was once again playing "flood footy".

Not sure if you could accurately suggest that one coach "absolutely destroyed" the other when your team loses by 40 points and is held to 6 goals.

Still a long way off. Wouldnt get too excited just yet.

 

[Spoken4]

Still a long way off. Wouldnt get too excited just yet.

Absolutely agree. I would say we are not a premiership contender this year when compared to Geelong, Hawthorn or Sydney. But Freo is better than an "okay team".