Preview Rd 14 - Carlton v GWS Sat June 19 7.25pm @ Giants Stadium

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Geez we're an optimistic bunch here. Put me in for a 4 goal loss. Same as usual.

The one thing with GWS is they are probably the only side in the comp that play with less heart than us..

 

[Juddernaut08]

Any intel on this Matthew Flynn bloke? After worrying about mumford mma-ing walsh into oblivion, are we more confident with this change?

Can Pittonet recapture his 2020 form?

 

[Blue Pulse]

I dont see a week off as doing much in relation to any of the above - you may get a week or two of improvement but it will go back to being what it has been for a long time. Its a whole club mindset issue and will take more than a week of 'soul searching' to fix.

As I said, "I'm hoping". I'd love to be a fly on the wall, cause from the outside looking in, imo, there appears to be a disharmony within the way we are playing. Either it's one game plan with 22 interpretations of it, different rules for different players, lack of flexibility with the game plan, players playing out of position, the list of why we do the same thing every week is endless.

 

[Mr_Plow]

Interested to see whether there is a positive response from the playing group, and if it lasts for more than a fleeting moment.

 

[FRUMPY]

Interested to see whether there is a positive response from the playing group, and if it lasts for more than a fleeting moment.

Fleeting....maybe we can turn into Sutton's BEAST

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[Juddernaut08]

AFL.com website headline reads: veteran blue axed, as giants lose 4

Actually, giants lose 1 through injury (Mumford), with the other 3 listed as omissions.

Blues had 4 changes too.

Not a major point, but inaccurate reporting!

 

[CJMB]

What's our record coming off the bye?

How do we go in first quarters coming off the bye?

The word sluggish comes to mind.

it's probably not that different from our record in non-post-bye rounds...

 

[CJMB]

Any intel on this Matthew Flynn bloke? After worrying about mumford mma-ing walsh into oblivion, are we more confident with this change?

Can Pittonet recapture his 2020 form?

From the same town as Williams, Narrandera in the Riverina. Was on the GWS list for nearly 2000 days before playing his first game this year. Has been one of the best SC/DT/Fantasy rookies this year.

201 & 104kg. Played 8 games, averaging 20 HO & 6.8 to adv, 12.4 disp, 4.5 marks, 0.6 goals, 4.4 score involvements, 2.8 tackles & 11.4 PA. Wins 41.2% of HO & 33.8% to adv.

Compare - StatsPro (afl.com.au)

 

[Juddernaut08]

From the same town as Williams, Narrandera in the Riverina. Was on the GWS list for nearly 2000 days before playing his first game this year. Has been one of the best SC/DT/Fantasy rookies this year.

201 & 104kg. Played 8 games, averaging 20 HO & 6.8 to adv, 12.4 disp, 4.5 marks, 0.6 goals, 4.4 score involvements, 2.8 tackles & 11.4 PA. Wins 41.2% of HO & 33.8% to adv.

Compare - StatsPro (afl.com.au)

Sounds similar to what we hope TDK is developing into.

 

[katmanblue]

Better send this list to Santa thy.
But I seriously think it's beyond him.
He might be able to get you a unicorn though.

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[CJMB]

Sounds similar to what we hope TDK is developing into.

I haven't watched a heap of GWS this season but I'm not sure Flynn has quite the same athletic potential of TDK.

 

[Coops93]

Interested to see whether there is a positive response from the playing group, and if it lasts for more than a fleeting moment.

I have a feeling it will really depend on how we start.

If GWS get the jump on us we'll melt. If we start well it could launch us to the rest of the year.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

I haven't watched a heap of GWS this season but I'm not sure Flynn has quite the same athletic potential of TDK.

Both Flynn & Briggs are big boys and will be tough to deal with.
Both have much more potential to impact around the ground compared to Pittonet.

 

[AndyLucimitis]

Can Pittonet recapture his 2020 form?

I'd prefer he re-capture Simon Maddens 1985 form !

 

[AlecDuncan]

If our team selection isn't under the microscope with this review, it will have been a waste of time.

 

[CJMB]

If our team selection isn't under the microscope with this review, it will have been a waste of time.

Is that comment in relation to this week's selection?

 

[TwiggleyFanClub]

Love the detail orientation of the media team...

" Will Setterfield has come out of the line-up due to a XX injury, "

Sounds like a dangerous injury!

Could have been worse. Could have been a XXX injury.

 

[AlecDuncan]

Is that comment in relation to this week's selection?

Yes. LOB should be getting games ahead of MK, not that I begrudge his opportunity. I just don't see him ever accumulating possessions at senior level as a midfielder. Especially as Cottrell has been dropped as a wing - that's LOB's best position.

Happy to see Matt playing forward, but I doubt that's how he'll be used.

 

[Coops93]

If our team selection isn't under the microscope with this review, it will have been a waste of time.

Hasn't that specifically been mentioned as something being looked at?

 

[spry]

Would find more cheer in a graveyard.

 

[Juddernaut08]

If our team selection isn't under the microscope with this review, it will have been a waste of time.

I daresay it has. There are already signs of improvement and different thinking:

-Murphy listed as an omission (rather than managed) is a big deal IMO.
-Matthew "the Butcher" Cottrell being dropped is good too, although I would have preferred if LOB came straight in.
-Dow being listed in the centre square tells me we're planning on giving him every opportunity to succeed.

I'm still annoyed Setterfield and likely Kennedy will be mismanaged by being played out of position, but it is a start.

 

[CJMB]

Yes. LOB should be getting games ahead of MK, not that I begrudge his opportunity. I just don't see him ever accumulating possessions at senior level as a midfielder. Especially as Cottrell has been dropped as a wing - that's LOB's best position.

Happy to see Matt playing forward, but I doubt that's how he'll be used.

Going off the team sheet, which obviously could mean SFA, to me it looks like our mids are structured like this:

Inside: Cripps, Dow, Curnow + Kennedy Bench
Outside: Walsh, Doc + Fisher bench


There will be some rotations there, would think Walsh would spend some time inside & Fish will go forward as well as Martin/Fog coming up around the ball/wing, but overall that 4+3 structure makes sense to me.


Leaving the rest of the team, which actually seems pretty balanced:

Tall def: Weitering, Jones, Parks
Gen def: Williams, Saad, Stocker, Newman

Tall fwd: Harry, TDK, Jack
Gen fwd: Martin, Fogarty, Owies, Betts

Ruck: Pitto (TDK)

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Kennedy should come into Murphy’s role.
As a half forward he may kick a goal or 2 but can also give midfield relief which Murph isn’t capable of doing anymore, may also take a contested mark but at least will compete & tackle.

 

[Coops93]

Good omen for this weekend:

Carlton hasn't lost 3 games in a row this season, only 2 consecutive followed by a win. It's happened 3 times so far.

Might as well lock in the W now.

 

[BlueBayou]

we'll be fine saturday night if

• we turn up
• we don't get too far behind
• we don't get too far in front
• we can somehow stop a block of opposition goals
• we can somehow score a block of our own
• we tackle hard
• we kick straight
• we run both ways
• we support each other
• we don't run out of legs
• we do win the clearances
• we spread the load
• we play attacking but defend and shape things when needed

I reckon we will win if -

We kick a higher score than they do...