Massive workrate for the amount of time he had on the ground, over 9 KPH for defensive running. Not in the top 5 for attacking running
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Massive workrate for the amount of time he had on the ground, over 9 KPH for defensive running. Not in the top 5 for attacking running
Anyone got any thoughts on why Harry’s goal kicking is so bad.
I cant put my finger on it but something looks odd with his technique.
He looks too casual, loose with something. That sounds odd as you want a smooth, relaxed run up and technique.
Is it how he holds the ball?
Someone will come up with a better answer than me, would like to hear some thoughts.
I cant put my finger on it but something looks odd with his technique.
He looks too casual, loose with something. That sounds odd as you want a smooth, relaxed run up and technique.
Is it how he holds the ball?
Someone will come up with a better answer than me, would like to hear some thoughts.
Will have to find it, as I posted it some time ago, but it was the centre clearances last year, Bolton kids v Teague seniors
Kids actually outperformed the senior players in this area. Problem was, round the ground or 2nd phase where the kids were manhandled
Bolton went too hard in one direction and I was concerned Tegue was going to hard the other way
I thought with another preseason to assess the situation that balance would be better, but it hasn't
Needs to add more speed and burst, so I would be rotating the likes of Cuners, Fish, Dow, like he has been with Martin, to compliment Cripps and Ed
Next year, you add, Stocker, Kemp, Philp to that mix
Start this by saying that I like Dow and see a future in him but I wonder about the value of that particular stat given that he only had 8 disposals, 0 marks and 0 tackles.
The value for metre isn't great stat wise, although I concede that there is no stat for pressure.
Still think they are asking too much of Dow.
Hopefully these last 3 games, they just let him solely hunt the footy
A bit of time to reflect has made me realise I am way too emotional to be a coach, I don’t know how they stay composed.
This year for me is very similar to our 2008, we are starving for success and not seeing the forest for the trees. The lure of finals was so exciting that we lost perspective of how shite we have really been for the past 5 years.
One thing that needs to change is we need to turn our control of the game into scoreboard pressure, too often we are finding ourselves locking the ball inside 50, winning clearances and overall control of the contest (thanks Teaguey) but not scoring from it, whether this is tactical, or due to personnel is something the coaches need to figure out over summer.
We have the key ingredients to be a good side, and should compete for finals next year. We just aren’t there yet, but compared to 12 months ago
We are night and day, far better.
Some tough calls need to be made on veterans. Betts and Simpson are just
not up to it anymore. We need to replace them from next year. Murphy has actually had a good month but he is clearly not what he once was, next season he needs to be phased out. Kreuzer I think is done and should retire. E Curnow is still playing well so he will no doubt go on.
The biggest concern is the lack of development from some players. Dow, SPS, O’Brien and Cuningham should be firmly entrenched in our 22 and making names for themselves, none are. We can’t have Cripps, Walsh and Weitering as our best 3 every week. We need supporting crew to stand up and share the load.
Consistency and learning to turn control of the game into scores is the next step for this group. Let’s see if they have it in them, I Hope and believe they do.
This year for me is very similar to our 2008, we are starving for success and not seeing the forest for the trees. The lure of finals was so exciting that we lost perspective of how shite we have really been for the past 5 years.
One thing that needs to change is we need to turn our control of the game into scoreboard pressure, too often we are finding ourselves locking the ball inside 50, winning clearances and overall control of the contest (thanks Teaguey) but not scoring from it, whether this is tactical, or due to personnel is something the coaches need to figure out over summer.
We have the key ingredients to be a good side, and should compete for finals next year. We just aren’t there yet, but compared to 12 months ago
We are night and day, far better.
Some tough calls need to be made on veterans. Betts and Simpson are just
not up to it anymore. We need to replace them from next year. Murphy has actually had a good month but he is clearly not what he once was, next season he needs to be phased out. Kreuzer I think is done and should retire. E Curnow is still playing well so he will no doubt go on.
The biggest concern is the lack of development from some players. Dow, SPS, O’Brien and Cuningham should be firmly entrenched in our 22 and making names for themselves, none are. We can’t have Cripps, Walsh and Weitering as our best 3 every week. We need supporting crew to stand up and share the load.
Consistency and learning to turn control of the game into scores is the next step for this group. Let’s see if they have it in them, I Hope and believe they do.
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Not questioning Walsh.
Dow was our hardest worker defensively? Could have fooled me. I wonder if this is a case of misleading stats.
I recall numerous times seeing him on screen and yes he was applying defensive pressure but not with a whole heap of intensity to actually impact and make a difference...the stats might count it as defensive pressure when really he was just trailing his opponent.
Outside his goal Dow has basically been invisible for 2 games in a row now despite getting some centre square time. It kind of felt like Teague had to hide him up forward for the majority of the second half because he wasn't having any impact in the midfield.
Cripps/Dow/Setterfield does not work...there is not enough leg speed or two-way running in this group and they are all 'inside' mids. Too much hard running is being left to Curnow/Walsh/Murphy/Cottrell. Need more balance in the midfield.
At least for this
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The defensive running he is doing would not be on the screen.
Hard to say where he was at the time, it is just recorded when the opposition has the ball
Not the role I want him to play. Use Kennedy for that role, Dow needs to be on the move, rather than having his feet planted at a stoppage
Sure, and maybe Dow is contributing more than i realise.
But he has contributed next to nothing offensively in 2 games outside his goal and basically has zero impact when the ball is in his area when I see him on screen, both offensively and defensively.
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You have to ask what was his role (and I don't know the answer either). Are they trying to educate him by getting him to run with someone? Is he working so hard to do the defensive things he has nothing in him to run offensively? Is he so focused on the team he is neglecting his instincts?
I don't know the answer either.
Don't know either what I do know is SPS has to be played in the middle along with Dow for the last 3 games.
Rest Cripps, Murphy or tap Murphy on the shoulder and tell him it's time to retire, can't keep carrying him brings nothing.
Afraid I'm not seeing SPS as a midfielder on what he's producing. He's a complete mystery to me.
SPS had good games in the middle last year, don't know why we continue to play him at HB we are wasting our most potent weapon.
We definately haven't created a role for Paddy in our structure yet. Imo our setup going forward may not either.
Imo Dow's strengths are winning the ball, his quick hands in tight, and running torwards the goals. Under Teague we are , i think, looking to play a game that doesn't quite suit Paddy's strengths(atm). I reckon he would be terrific for Richmond or Essendon for example. The Caracella gamestyle. Quick hands, quick movement, forward territory.
I still think he has real AFL talent that can make a difference to games, but he has deficiencies and i think finding his role and confidence in him to "let him Play" is more important to him than most. Some players need a bit more freedom than others to use their positives.
His fitness and tackling is a real issue though. It's been touched on a bit here in recent pages and i watch him closely because he is one of my favorites, and i think it is right that he is doing too much wasted running to adhere for the sake of appearances.
Maybe he'll never fit Teague's "style", but if he's to make it with us we have to use his strengths and maybe use a sheepdog like Cottrell in tandem to do some of the gruntwork.
He's an interesting watch Paddy, as are Carlton as a whole. This year is 50% junkish for every club and participant and has been a bit of a waste and just getting a season done for the pay cheques, but the next 2 years will be extremely interesting.
Just hope the standard of games overall lift again.
Didn't think he played in the middle after Teague took over and we had very few good games under Bolton. I stand to be corrected but I don't recall him tearing it up too often. I know many here keep referring to a game against Collingwood at some time but I don't remember it.
Wonderful deflection when based on facts improvement is marginal and we have not been able to attract star players. You compared us to Brisbane, where is carlton's version of Neale.eg williams, kelly?
Surely we're past the stage of importing opposition has-beens (noting that we probably failed to do so when the time was right under Bolton). Hawthorn, Geelong (and to a lesser extent Richmond and the Bulldogs) built their winning cultures off the back of young guys playing and experiencing success together in the VFL. By comparison, Cross and Lewis haven't exactly tuurned things around at Melbourne.
What we're trying to build has to come from within if it's going to stick.
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zero tackles gives an idea on the defensive running he's doing.
The Old Dark Navy's is right, he's putting too much effort into running into the wrong places.
There were a few games with Bolton and Teague that SPS played higher up on the wing/middle even HF and he had very good games.
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Defneive running that means you man doesn't get the ball or you block up space is hardly going to result in a tackle.
I think there is a disconnect between what the supporters want from Dow and what the coaches want from Dow.
To me this is a very common phase in a young players education, going from the underage simply hunting the ball now they are trying to build all the defensive running and then eventually he will be released back to hunt the ball once he has shown he can do the defensive side.
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