Autopsy Rd 2 vs Hawks - Blues fight but lose due to lack of class and pace ... again

[Doro]

We've somehow turned this list into a team of battlers. Anyone still seeing a flag with this side?

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Efficiency hurt again.

 

[Bryce Bubbles]

We have too many injuries in season and in preseason

Mate we are missing no one of note! Harry is soft as butter but at least a presence but dumb dumb dumb.

 

[Ahuitzotl]

Free kick Hawthorn.

****.

 

[Matty411]

I’ve put more effort into bowel movements than the Carlton FC showed tonight, ****ing ordinary football team with no gameplan and even less skill.

Embarrassing at all levels of the club.

Last week was embarrassing. Didnt drop our heads tonight. But it was an accurate reflection of where we truly are. Which is way off the pace of the top teams.

Too many passengers. Outdated game plan. Injured or unfit players. Just too damn slow and unskilled when it counts.

Not sure where to go from here.

 

[Wilson14]

Its hilarious

Get the ball and just dump it forward

Hawks ****ing cut us apart with their handball and running game

We are done

Can’t forget the slow switch with absolutely zero purpose other than stat padding. Blame the assistant coaches for that one

 

[dumb]

hawks the better team. plenty of pressure on the hawks in the contest but they're slick enough to keep a handle on it. able to repel us constantly with a bit of luck and plenty of skill, pace. haven't filled the list holes we've had for some time now, have never done much with our set shot bullshit for some time now either.
we gave a pretty good account, and the conditions probably helped us too. but our list of not overly quick contested players don't do us any favours.

 

[Markyd]

Our forwards take front position and just get pushed under the ball.

 

[Sam The Doc]

I wish Charlie Curnow played.

Why can’t they just face reality and wait until he’s actually fit.

 

[Kernafides]

We had a crack but outclassed....cez and Walsh disappointing...easy to pick on the young and Haynes of the world but cez and Walsh are giving nothing

 

[skadoosh]

Funny how Hawks play like a team with a plan and execute.

While we look like headless chooks just trying to somehow move the ball forward.

 

[SolGoodman]

Efficiency hurt again.

Literally every season we say the same thing, our recruiting and our coaches are simply not great and that will always hold us back.

Hawks are built perfectly, elite kicks everywhere and a system to make the role players 10-20% better players.

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[The Old Dark Navy's]

I don’t understand the Vossy bashing, evident again with our lack of polish costing us dearly.
Too many dump kickers (Docherty, Walsh, Cottrell), dumb footballers like McGovern and then players with basic mistakes, too regularly.

Playing with 1 hand behind our back most of the time.

Couldn’t fault the efforts.

F*, I dislike just about everything about Hawthorn.

Who is responsibly for selection though? Voss said you don't panic, you double down. Those players without polish have never had polish. We always execute dump kicks.

 

[Zlatan]

Another 2 goal second half...

Why are you besmirching our good name? 2.8 thanks

 

[Rustica]

We hit the post three times, TDK was a goal, and a doc missed free in the square plus docs fluff of an attempt just inside 50. We are not far off. Basically no Curnow and Harry…

We are so far off its not even funny

This team is at a stage where we should be winning these games

We have been not far off for a decade

 

[Kismet]

I dare anyone to say "At least they tried hard".

Dumb skill errors and too much fearing contact, especially in the second and last quarters.

Last quarter was a return to the capers of last week.

There is too much talent on our list to be this bad, so that tells me coaching and culture are still a massive problem.

Hawthorn have gone from easy beats to supremely confident in themselves in just two years.

There's a reason Voss didn't make it past the first interview when Collingwood were last looking for a coach.

It's not time for an on-field rebuild; it's time for a coaching staff rebuild.

 

[Its an amigo!]

Just watching Voss chat to the boys in the rooms. Why isn't he giving them an absolute spray. His expression is "oh well, you tried hard boys" instead!

 

[passmark]

The list has holes but so does the Hawks list and Pies list.

Voss is the problem.

 

[agro]

Socceroos kicked more goals in a half of football

 

[Sqotty from office works]

Walsh and Curnow definitely unfit.
Unsure about
Young
Kemp
Motlop
Cerra
Hewitt
Cotrell
Cowan
Williams
Fogarty
Acres
Docherty

 

[SolGoodman]

That Doc dropped mark at the end of the third was the hardest thing I've watched. Love him but his first touch is just not there anymore


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[Graffy4242]

Can’t forget the slow switch with absolutely zero purpose other than stat padding. Blame the assistant coaches for that one

We have some????

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

Hawks pressure was immense all game, they were not just in second gear.

One of the highest pressure Round 2 games I’ve seen in a while

Our game style invites pressure. Artificial numbers. Hawks were coasting. Barely raised a sweat.

Carlton are cooked. Another rebuild coming. Without a first round pick as well.

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

Most of them gave the effort required.
Still panic dump kicks out of D50, and still dump kicks into F50…. I just don’t know what we’ve learnt, what are they taught?
I have NFI.
We need more than effort.
We need composure, composure,composure and some bloody skill.

 

[teknodeejay]

Would've been within a shot if our players were able to kick easy goals. What have they been doing all preseason? And it's probably one of the easier things to fix.

Groundhog Day for how many years now?