Autopsy Rd 20 - Another Giant loss for the outclassed Blues

[Metalcrusher]

Forget the jury, In English law, the black cap was worn by a judge when passing a sentence of death. By July next season, BB will be gone. Our lack of midfield grunt will continue to hurt us next season. They will probably roll out Barker to take over for the rest of the year, and then we will be faced with having to recruit another untried/unproven coach, or throw 5 million at Roos, or possibly lure Horse from Sydney, as his time is nearly up.

Jesus did you get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning? Or did the apocalypse land in your weaties?

FMD.

 

[Aphrodite]

Forget the jury, In English law, the black cap was worn by a judge when passing a sentence of death. By July next season, BB will be gone. Our lack of midfield grunt will continue to hurt us next season. They will probably roll out Barker to take over for the rest of the year, and then we will be faced with having to recruit another untried/unproven coach, or throw 5 million at Roos, or possibly lure Horse from Sydney, as his time is nearly up.

Give it a rest Moody!

 

[Gethelred]

Premiership player, 254 games with 3 clubs, finals coach, media analyst, he knows a lot about football. He does not have to be sitting in the inner sanctums of a club to know that a loss of that magnitude will hurt a club's fabric. He watches a lot of Reserves football and has commented all year about Harry McKay, that it was a waste of time playing him in the ressies. He needed to learn his craft in the firsts.

He understands more about where Carlton is at, because he has been in the same predicament as a player and a coach.

Cool. Mind telling me exactly how the pertains specifically to Carlton, beyond the passing relevance of someone with long experience of football?

He might not need to sit in the inner sanctum of a club to know that a loss like that could hurt a club's fabric; he certainly does in order to know whether a loss like this has well enough to say will as opposed to could.

 

[Iamcarlton]

Forget the jury, In English law, the black cap was worn by a judge when passing a sentence of death. By July next season, BB will be gone. Our lack of midfield grunt will continue to hurt us next season. They will probably roll out Barker to take over for the rest of the year, and then we will be faced with having to recruit another untried/unproven coach, or throw 5 million at Roos, or possibly lure Horse from Sydney, as his time is nearly up.

Ok your old school with a mentality that saw coaches fired at the first sign of trouble or when things got tough .
Thankfully the CFC has grown up or wised up that this is folly .
Many people go into preparing a football team these days .
Many many more than their use to be when head coaches had so much more influence on the team than now .
Bolton wont be sacked this year or most likely next because that isnt the answer to Carlton climbing the ladder .

 

[Arr0w]

You are quite right. BB says the players will learn a lot after the loss to GWS. They gave up, chucked it in, threw in the towel and were being outplayed by 16 players!. Yes Terry Wallace again.

That is way to simplistic Moody, but you only go on media outcry. As for Wallace, he is still trying to justify taking Tambling all these years later

 

[Metalcrusher]

That is way to simplistic Moody, but you only go on media outcry. As for Wallace, he is still trying to justify taking Tambling all these years later

I was born a Tamblin man ………….

 

[Arr0w]

Forget the jury, In English law, the black cap was worn by a judge when passing a sentence of death. By July next season, BB will be gone. Our lack of midfield grunt will continue to hurt us next season. They will probably roll out Barker to take over for the rest of the year, and then we will be faced with having to recruit another untried/unproven coach, or throw 5 million at Roos, or possibly lure Horse from Sydney, as his time is nearly up.

Yeah, nah

 

[Metalcrusher]

Yeah, nah

Well a Yeah and a Nah is Not Guilty in my book … beyond reasonable doubt n all …..

 

[footyfan1978]

By July next season, BB will be gone. They will probably roll out Barker to take over for the rest of the year

Can only assume you were drunk when posted.
Barker head coach again? So drunk... the guy will be lucky to even still be at our club next year.

 

[Metalcrusher]

Forget the jury, In English law, the black cap was worn by a judge when passing a sentence of death. By July next season, BB will be gone. Our lack of midfield grunt will continue to hurt us next season. They will probably roll out Barker to take over for the rest of the year, and then we will be faced with having to recruit another untried/unproven coach, or throw 5 million at Roos, or possibly lure Horse from Sydney, as his time is nearly up.

I agree with this point though …. Kids will still be too young to lift the midfield on their own. However, if 1 or 2 decent B+ midfielders were targeted, that could very very quickly change.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Ok your old school with a mentality that saw coaches fired at the first sign of trouble or when things got tough .
Thankfully the CFC has grown up or wised up that this is folly .
Many people go into preparing a football team these days .
Many many more than their use to be when head coaches had so much more influence on the team than now .
Bolton wont be sacked this year or most likely next because that isnt the answer to Carlton climbing the ladder .

After 3 years we are so poorly drilled and structure we can't counter a side that's playing 16-17 men getting smashed in that last qtr 7 goals to 1, getting outnumbered at nearly every contest. How does that happen? Changing the coach is an answer, like it was with the Bulldogs, McCartney to Beveridge, Like Port from Primus to Hinkley, even like ius going from Pagan to Ratten. If we are that bad that out structures can't even cope with a side playing short then that is coaching, no ifs or buts. Our effort was very poor, as has happens a number of times this year, that is also coaching. Fish rots at that head and that is the head coach. Two most important people in the club are the recruiter and the coach, they fail, you fail. What happened last week was a "next Monday" sacking, not even an end of year one. We've had 2 wins, injuries or not, along way backwards. We have alot of very good youngsters with enough decent senior experience to be doing better than what we are. The longer we keep Bolts the longer we wait before we do anything. unlike others, I don't embrace failure and don't get sucked in by the club line that everyone is going ok because it's a rebuild. You are supposed to get better, not drop back so far that we win 2 games.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Can only assume you were drunk when posted.
Barker head coach again? So drunk... the guy will be lucky to even still be at our club next year.

You'd go with Teague. His work with the then Northern Bullants a few years ago was something outstanding. Senior coach written all over him. Pity he's never applied for a head coaching role.

 

[footyfan1978]

You'd go with Teague. His work with the then Northern Bullants a few years ago was something outstanding. Senior coach written all over him. Pity he's never applied for a head coaching role.

Yeah, quite like the little I seen of Teague. Good addition to mix. Hoping we add a proper senior assistant to help Bolts out, say thanks for your services Barks but time up and probably remove the weakest assistant of the rest. A bit of a shake up will be good to see imho. But Barker as head coach is the moody one close to drunk to be rambling in such a manner.

 

[Iamcarlton]

After 3 years we are so poorly drilled and structure we can't counter a side that's playing 16-17 men getting smashed in that last qtr 7 goals to 1, getting outnumbered at nearly every contest. How does that happen? Changing the coach is an answer, like it was with the Bulldogs, McCartney to Beveridge, Like Port from Primus to Hinkley, even like ius going from Pagan to Ratten. If we are that bad that out structures can't even cope with a side playing short then that is coaching, no ifs or buts. Our effort was very poor, as has happens a number of times this year, that is also coaching. Fish rots at that head and that is the head coach. Two most important people in the club are the recruiter and the coach, they fail, you fail. What happened last week was a "next Monday" sacking, not even an end of year one. We've had 2 wins, injuries or not, along way backwards. We have alot of very good youngsters with enough decent senior experience to be doing better than what we are. The longer we keep Bolts the longer we wait before we do anything. unlike others, I don't embrace failure and don't get sucked in by the club line that everyone is going ok because it's a rebuild. You are supposed to get better, not drop back so far that we win 2 games.

Another old school thinker to counter your coach replacements theres Geelong sticking fat with Thompson and winning 3 flags Richmond likewise and winning last year with Hardwick and Collingwood now looking good under Buckley .
In the case of Mccartney it was obvious and reported as so that he had lost the players and you can add Mark Neeld and Mick Malthouse as others in that category .
Pretty safe to say that isnt the case with us .
Theres very valid reasons for our season that you and others wont accept thats fine thats up to you .
But a question were you saying/having the same thoughts last year ?
Whats changed so quickly then ?
Has the club gone backwards in wins for very valid reasons or are you making kneejerk comments based on only winning 2 games ?

 

[JustaBattler]

Forget the jury, In English law, the black cap was worn by a judge when passing a sentence of death. By July next season, BB will be gone. Our lack of midfield grunt will continue to hurt us next season. They will probably roll out Barker to take over for the rest of the year, and then we will be faced with having to recruit another untried/unproven coach, or throw 5 million at Roos, or possibly lure Horse from Sydney, as his time is nearly up.

I'd rather Bolton than 'a' Malthou$e - half the forum on here was all keen to sack Ratten I remember -do you? because he couldn't win a flag....how'd that work out - eh? EH??? No way Carlton should bring in some old fart ex Richmond/Collingwood cockroach to stink teh joint up - still needs fumigating after his rank and odious tenure.

Here is some news for you - Bolton has had a worse injury than Ratts had in the year he was knifed...I'm happy to run with Bolts for another 2 years minimum - time enough to settle the kids over the last 3 years and this year as well as bring in a couple of decent developed mids.

 

[thylacine60]

Forget the jury, In English law, the black cap was worn by a judge when passing a sentence of death. By July next season, BB will be gone. Our lack of midfield grunt will continue to hurt us next season. They will probably roll out Barker to take over for the rest of the year, and then we will be faced with having to recruit another untried/unproven coach, or throw 5 million at Roos, or possibly lure Horse from Sydney, as his time is nearly up.

silliest post you've put up, moods - quit it.................

 

[El Topo]

After 3 years we are so poorly drilled and structure we can't counter a side that's playing 16-17 men getting smashed in that last qtr 7 goals to 1, getting outnumbered at nearly every contest.

Yet our side was noticeable last year and to a lesser extent in 2016 for its defensive structure and controlled aggression. It's almost as if those structures have been decimated by injury, particularly to our top senior players. But yep, definitely the coach. Pigs arse!

 

[footyfan1978]

I'd rather Bolton than 'a' Malthou$e - half the forum on here was all keen to sack Ratten I remember -do you? because he couldn't win a flag....how'd that work out - eh? EH??? No way Carlton should bring in some old fart ex Richmond/Collingwood cockroach to stink teh joint up - still needs fumigating after his rank and odious tenure.

So that was the stench and musty smell in the air when I first read and posted around here. Needed a good airing out. You guys should have had windows open and let some fresh air in.

 

[Blue Pulse]

After 3 years we are so poorly drilled and structure we can't counter a side that's playing 16-17 men getting smashed in that last qtr 7 goals to 1, getting outnumbered at nearly every contest. How does that happen? Changing the coach is an answer, like it was with the Bulldogs, McCartney to Beveridge, Like Port from Primus to Hinkley, even like ius going from Pagan to Ratten. If we are that bad that out structures can't even cope with a side playing short then that is coaching, no ifs or buts. Our effort was very poor, as has happens a number of times this year, that is also coaching. Fish rots at that head and that is the head coach. Two most important people in the club are the recruiter and the coach, they fail, you fail. What happened last week was a "next Monday" sacking, not even an end of year one. We've had 2 wins, injuries or not, along way backwards. We have alot of very good youngsters with enough decent senior experience to be doing better than what we are. The longer we keep Bolts the longer we wait before we do anything. unlike others, I don't embrace failure and don't get sucked in by the club line that everyone is going ok because it's a rebuild. You are supposed to get better, not drop back so far that we win 2 games.

So your saying we should do what Carlton have always done when things aren't going our way and sack the coach to bring success?

So Brittain for Pagan and Ratten for Malthouse type of changes. If you don't have the cattle, a change of coach achieves little.

 

[Arr0w]

After 3 years we are so poorly drilled and structure we can't counter a side that's playing 16-17 men getting smashed in that last qtr 7 goals to 1, getting outnumbered at nearly every contest. How does that happen? Changing the coach is an answer, like it was with the Bulldogs, McCartney to Beveridge, Like Port from Primus to Hinkley, even like ius going from Pagan to Ratten. If we are that bad that out structures can't even cope with a side playing short then that is coaching, no ifs or buts. Our effort was very poor, as has happens a number of times this year, that is also coaching. Fish rots at that head and that is the head coach. Two most important people in the club are the recruiter and the coach, they fail, you fail. What happened last week was a "next Monday" sacking, not even an end of year one. We've had 2 wins, injuries or not, along way backwards. We have alot of very good youngsters with enough decent senior experience to be doing better than what we are. The longer we keep Bolts the longer we wait before we do anything. unlike others, I don't embrace failure and don't get sucked in by the club line that everyone is going ok because it's a rebuild. You are supposed to get better, not drop back so far that we win 2 games.

Even though this is a complete rant, based on no facts at all apart from results driven, you continue to contradict yourself

Bolton will stay, until such a time that we have a better understanding of what this group will achieve, if we can ever get players on the park

But if you want to get caught up with all the media hype about playing against, 17 players, go right ahead, as the current situation requires deeper analysis

 

[Aphrodite]

What an odd thread this has turned into and way off topic.

Game has been played and now we move onto Rnd 21.

We're done.