- Nov 27, 2016
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No you.you're amazing.........
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Meaning as a group they werent invested 100% in performing to the best they can be individually and as a team on the night .The flat-footedness was driving every one around us insane. Very visible from where we were sitting.
Quarter 1 | W 5 - 3 (8) |
Ed Williams Cripps | Walsh doesn't care if he's starting or not, still wins it to Cripps for a scrubby clearance |
Walsh Kennedy Cripps (LC) | Cripps breaks through but could have been a bit cleaner with handball to Walsh. He dishes it off to Doc who can only get a chip to forward square. |
Ed Cripps Kennedy (LC) | Dixon wins the tap, Cripps and Kennedy hard at it. I've already given my thoughts about the Port free awarded here. |
Ed Cripps Walsh | Nice jump from Pitto, taps down to Cripps, strong, to Walsh charging through, back to Cripps and defenders for wing clearance |
Ed Cripps Walsh | Poor checking by Ed and possibly Cripps aids their clearance but it was nice work from Lycett |
Ed Walsh Cripps | Pitto wins tap, good work by Cripps and Walsh but unlucky bounce prevents clearance, Port gather back of square and clear |
Ed Walsh Cripps | Nice tap from Pitto to Cripps for a softer free than many not paid. Not allowed to play on stupidly. |
Cripps Ed Walsh | Pitto collects and bangs it forward |
Quarter 2 | L 2 - 4 (6) |
Ed Williams Cripps | Ed played loose on Amon and he got the clearance. Bad bounce for Williams and Pitto left Lycett unchecked who assisted. |
Williams Ed Walsh | Some of these frees they pick out are utterly ridiculous when you see what isn't called. Soft free against Williams. |
Walsh Kennedy Ed | Stoppage from which the pull out a ruck infringement against Pitt. Port allowed the advantage |
Williams Walsh Cripps (LC) | Levi nice tap down to Cripps who breaks away and pumps it i50 |
Ed Walsh Kennedy | Pitto spoils the pass, opts for the mouse in the house run up to it off the ground for clearance |
Ed Walsh Cripps | Initial viewing looked like Cripps trying to do too much but it wasn't the case. Couldn't get the clean pass and they clear |
Quarter 3 | W 5 - 4 (9) |
Ed Cripps Walsh | Walsh on the move, Lycett wins tap but Walsh tackles Boak, Ed great smoother, Walsh wins contested ball for effective clearance forward square |
Walsh Ed Cripps | Cripps is held for one of the most blatant holding frees you could give, is ignored and his man assists the clearance |
Ed Cripps Walsh | Lycett taps to Wines who is too strong and clears |
Ed Walsh Cripps | Pitto wins tap but to Boak, if it was a set play it was brilliant or it could have been just fortunate, either way they clear |
Williams Kennedy Ed | Lycett jumps all over Pitto early. Pitto with the easy collect and dashes away Danger style for an i50. Credit to MK for bodywork on Wines |
Williams Walsh Cripps (LC) | LC may have tapped it, either way odd bounce that Walsh is quickest to read, uses Gibbo to Cripps for running shot or deep i50 |
Ed Cripps Walsh | Pitto tries to grab it out of the ruck, fumbles, they collect and clear it |
Ed Kennedy Walsh | I had to include a gif of this. IMO our best centre clearance of the year, so far as ruck and mid being in sync. Beautiful tap from Pitto and flick from Kennedy. Wozers, where did that come from |
Ed Williams Walsh | Naturally we take Kennedy out of the centre for the rest of the game. What on earth was our rationale for that. This one, stoppage, Pitto free and we clear. Whatever. |
Quarter 4 | W 4 - 1 (5) |
Fogarty Walsh Williams | Pitto wins tap but it's straight down with no real intent, Fog strong tackle, Williams handballs wide, Walsh mops up and it gets back to Williams for effective wing clearance |
Ed Walsh Cripps (LC) | Levi wins the tap, fortunate bounce allows Cripps an easy give to Ed who bombs it i50 |
Ed Cripps Williams | Bad bounce that Pitt gets a hand to, Ed's handball intercepted, falls Cripps way who was legged and uses Williams for a scrubber i50 |
Ed Cripps Walsh | Bounce recalled. Pitto taps it forward to where Wines ran unchecked (Ed was our free defensive side). Lack of cohesion as our mids weren't ready for it. |
Ed Walsh Cripps | Pitto beaming from his goal. Falls to Gray who throws it to Ed for a bomb i50. Walsh pressured Gray but I haven't given him a contribution here |
Total | W 16 - 12 (28) |
Total /28 | Q1 /8 | Q2 /6 | Q3 /9 | Q4 /5 | |
Ed | 24 (5) | 7(0) | 5(0) | 8(2) | 4(3) |
Walsh | 23 (5) | 6(2) | 5(0) | 8(2) | 4(1) |
Cripps | 21 (8) | 8(4) | 3(1) | 6(1) | 4(2) |
Williams | 9 (2) | 1(0) | 3(0) | 3(0) | 2(2) |
Kennedy | 6 (1) | 2(0) | 2(0) | 2(1) | 0 |
Fogarty | 1 (1) | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1(1) |
Centre bounce summary (Blues kicking ---->)
Quarter 1 W 5 - 3 (8) Ed Williams Cripps Walsh doesn't care if he's starting or not, still wins it to Cripps for a scrubby clearance Walsh Kennedy Cripps (LC) Cripps breaks through but could have been a bit cleaner with handball to Walsh. He dishes it off to Doc who can only get a chip to forward square. Ed Cripps Kennedy (LC) Dixon wins the tap, Cripps and Kennedy hard at it. I've already given my thoughts about the Port free awarded here. Ed Cripps Walsh Nice jump from Pitto, taps down to Cripps, strong, to Walsh charging through, back to Cripps and defenders for wing clearance Ed Cripps Walsh Poor checking by Ed and possibly Cripps aids their clearance but it was nice work from Lycett Ed Walsh Cripps Pitto wins tap, good work by Cripps and Walsh but unlucky bounce prevents clearance, Port gather back of square and clear Ed Walsh Cripps Nice tap from Pitto to Cripps for a softer free than many not paid. Not allowed to play on stupidly. Cripps Ed Walsh Pitto collects and bangs it forward Quarter 2 L 2 - 4 (6) Ed Williams Cripps Ed played loose on Amon and he got the clearance. Bad bounce for Williams and Pitto left Lycett unchecked who assisted. Williams Ed Walsh Some of these frees they pick out are utterly ridiculous when you see what isn't called. Soft free against Williams. Walsh Kennedy Ed Stoppage from which the pull out a ruck infringement against Pitt. Port allowed the advantage Williams Walsh Cripps (LC) Levi nice tap down to Cripps who breaks away and pumps it i50 Ed Walsh Kennedy Pitto spoils the pass, opts for the mouse in the house run up to it off the ground for clearance Ed Walsh Cripps Initial viewing looked like Cripps trying to do too much but it wasn't the case. Couldn't get the clean pass and they clear Quarter 3 W 5 - 4 (9) Ed Cripps Walsh Walsh on the move, Lycett wins tap but Walsh tackles Boak, Ed great smoother, Walsh wins contested ball for effective clearance forward square Walsh Ed Cripps Cripps is held for one of the most blatant holding frees you could give, is ignored and his man assists the clearance Ed Cripps Walsh Lycett taps to Wines who is too strong and clears Ed Walsh Cripps Pitto wins tap but to Boak, if it was a set play it was brilliant or it could have been just fortunate, either way they clear Williams Kennedy Ed Lycett jumps all over Pitto early. Pitto with the easy collect and dashes away Danger style for an i50. Credit to MK for bodywork on Wines Williams Walsh Cripps (LC) LC may have tapped it, either way odd bounce that Walsh is quickest to read, uses Gibbo to Cripps for running shot or deep i50 Ed Cripps Walsh Pitto tries to grab it out of the ruck, fumbles, they collect and clear it Ed Kennedy Walsh I had to include a gif of this. IMO our best centre clearance of the year, so far as ruck and mid being in sync. Beautiful tap from Pitto and flick from Kennedy. Wozers, where did that come from Ed Williams Walsh Naturally we take Kennedy out of the centre for the rest of the game. What on earth was our rationale for that. This one, stoppage, Pitto free and we clear. Whatever. Quarter 4 W 4 - 1 (5) Fogarty Walsh Williams Pitto wins tap but it's straight down with no real intent, Fog strong tackle, Williams handballs wide, Walsh mops up and it gets back to Williams for effective wing clearance Ed Walsh
Cripps (LC)Levi wins the tap, fortunate bounce allows Cripps an easy give to Ed who bombs it i50 Ed Cripps Williams Bad bounce that Pitt gets a hand to, Ed's handball intercepted, falls Cripps way who was legged and uses Williams for a scrubber i50 Ed Cripps Walsh Bounce recalled. Pitto taps it forward to where Wines ran unchecked (Ed was our free defensive side). Lack of cohesion as our mids weren't ready for it. Ed Walsh Cripps Pitto beaming from his goal. Falls to Gray who throws it to Ed for a bomb i50. Walsh pressured Gray but I haven't given him a contribution here Total W 16 - 12 (28)
Attended (clearance contributions)
Total /28 Q1 /8 Q2 /6 Q3 /9 Q4 /5 Ed 24 (5) 7(0) 5(0) 8(2) 4(3) Walsh 23 (5) 6(2) 5(0) 8(2) 4(1) Cripps 21 (8) 8(4) 3(1) 6(1) 4(2) Williams 9 (2) 1(0) 3(0) 3(0) 2(2) Kennedy 6 (1) 2(0) 2(0) 2(1) 0 Fogarty 1 (1) 0 0 0 1(1)
Most used:
Cripps Ed Walsh x 14 (L 6 - 8)
Cripps Ed Williams x 3 (W 2 - 1)
Walsh Ed Kennedy x 3 (W 2 - 1)
Observations
- Our best game in the centre clearances this year imo. There was clear intent to get on the move, more than previously. Walsh led the way but I liked we were mixing up our positioning throughout the game. Needed to be just a bit cleaner to improve effectiveness.
- Pitto's best game in the ruck as well. Was jumping high on occasions, getting involved for clearances or assisting much more than he had previously. For the most part tap work had purpose.
- Levi isn't pretty in the ruck, usually jumping too early but it puts their ruck off, he often gets his hand to it, and backs up play. I still think he would be far from a bad option as a short term starting ruck given his follow up work.
- Ed's clearance work is probably underrated. He is a competitor and does some really great work in tight. I don't think though he should ever pay loose from his man as he does on occasions.
- I liked Kennedy and Williams when they could get involved. It's close to clicking for Williams, while Kennedy could adequately replace Cripps or Ed if needed I feel.
- Cripps has copped criticism for trying to do it all but he isn't looking to do it alone in the centre clearances at least. He looks to give it off probably more than any other.
Watching just the clearances in isolation, I thought we looked quite strong and a level above Port, which I wasn't expecting. Leaves me feeling much more positive about our prospects going forward. Just a shame about the parts in between.
Here's that gif for some positivity:
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AgreedCripps/Walsh/Ed - annoys me we dont put more through the middle - SPS, more of Williams, Murphy (cuningham, stocker) etc
Thanks, I thought it may have been you can't take advantage of your own free.Just to clarify one thing, cripps got a free kick from an umpire out of the play - as far as im aware you cant play on or take advantage from a free kick paid by another umpire.
Cripps/Walsh/Ed - annoys me we dont put more through the middle - SPS, more of Williams, Murphy (cuningham, stocker) etc
Just to clarify one thing, cripps got a free kick from an umpire out of the play - as far as im aware you cant play on or take advantage from a free kick paid by another umpire.
Centre bounce summary (Blues kicking ---->)
Quarter 1 W 5 - 3 (8) Ed Williams Cripps Walsh doesn't care if he's starting or not, still wins it to Cripps for a scrubby clearance Walsh Kennedy Cripps (LC) Cripps breaks through but could have been a bit cleaner with handball to Walsh. He dishes it off to Doc who can only get a chip to forward square. Ed Cripps Kennedy (LC) Dixon wins the tap, Cripps and Kennedy hard at it. I've already given my thoughts about the Port free awarded here. Ed Cripps Walsh Nice jump from Pitto, taps down to Cripps, strong, to Walsh charging through, back to Cripps and defenders for wing clearance Ed Cripps Walsh Poor checking by Ed and possibly Cripps aids their clearance but it was nice work from Lycett Ed Walsh Cripps Pitto wins tap, good work by Cripps and Walsh but unlucky bounce prevents clearance, Port gather back of square and clear Ed Walsh Cripps Nice tap from Pitto to Cripps for a softer free than many not paid. Not allowed to play on stupidly. Cripps Ed Walsh Pitto collects and bangs it forward Quarter 2 L 2 - 4 (6) Ed Williams Cripps Ed played loose on Amon and he got the clearance. Bad bounce for Williams and Pitto left Lycett unchecked who assisted. Williams Ed Walsh Some of these frees they pick out are utterly ridiculous when you see what isn't called. Soft free against Williams. Walsh Kennedy Ed Stoppage from which the pull out a ruck infringement against Pitt. Port allowed the advantage Williams Walsh Cripps (LC) Levi nice tap down to Cripps who breaks away and pumps it i50 Ed Walsh Kennedy Pitto spoils the pass, opts for the mouse in the house run up to it off the ground for clearance Ed Walsh Cripps Initial viewing looked like Cripps trying to do too much but it wasn't the case. Couldn't get the clean pass and they clear Quarter 3 W 5 - 4 (9) Ed Cripps Walsh Walsh on the move, Lycett wins tap but Walsh tackles Boak, Ed great smoother, Walsh wins contested ball for effective clearance forward square Walsh Ed Cripps Cripps is held for one of the most blatant holding frees you could give, is ignored and his man assists the clearance Ed Cripps Walsh Lycett taps to Wines who is too strong and clears Ed Walsh Cripps Pitto wins tap but to Boak, if it was a set play it was brilliant or it could have been just fortunate, either way they clear Williams Kennedy Ed Lycett jumps all over Pitto early. Pitto with the easy collect and dashes away Danger style for an i50. Credit to MK for bodywork on Wines Williams Walsh Cripps (LC) LC may have tapped it, either way odd bounce that Walsh is quickest to read, uses Gibbo to Cripps for running shot or deep i50 Ed Cripps Walsh Pitto tries to grab it out of the ruck, fumbles, they collect and clear it Ed Kennedy Walsh I had to include a gif of this. IMO our best centre clearance of the year, so far as ruck and mid being in sync. Beautiful tap from Pitto and flick from Kennedy. Wozers, where did that come from Ed Williams Walsh Naturally we take Kennedy out of the centre for the rest of the game. What on earth was our rationale for that. This one, stoppage, Pitto free and we clear. Whatever. Quarter 4 W 4 - 1 (5) Fogarty Walsh Williams Pitto wins tap but it's straight down with no real intent, Fog strong tackle, Williams handballs wide, Walsh mops up and it gets back to Williams for effective wing clearance Ed Walsh
Cripps (LC)Levi wins the tap, fortunate bounce allows Cripps an easy give to Ed who bombs it i50 Ed Cripps Williams Bad bounce that Pitt gets a hand to, Ed's handball intercepted, falls Cripps way who was legged and uses Williams for a scrubber i50 Ed Cripps Walsh Bounce recalled. Pitto taps it forward to where Wines ran unchecked (Ed was our free defensive side). Lack of cohesion as our mids weren't ready for it. Ed Walsh Cripps Pitto beaming from his goal. Falls to Gray who throws it to Ed for a bomb i50. Walsh pressured Gray but I haven't given him a contribution here Total W 16 - 12 (28)
Attended (clearance contributions)
Total /28 Q1 /8 Q2 /6 Q3 /9 Q4 /5 Ed 24 (5) 7(0) 5(0) 8(2) 4(3) Walsh 23 (5) 6(2) 5(0) 8(2) 4(1) Cripps 21 (8) 8(4) 3(1) 6(1) 4(2) Williams 9 (2) 1(0) 3(0) 3(0) 2(2) Kennedy 6 (1) 2(0) 2(0) 2(1) 0 Fogarty 1 (1) 0 0 0 1(1)
Most used:
Cripps Ed Walsh x 14 (L 6 - 8)
Cripps Ed Williams x 3 (W 2 - 1)
Walsh Ed Kennedy x 3 (W 2 - 1)
Observations
- Our best game in the centre clearances this year imo. There was clear intent to get on the move, more than previously. Walsh led the way but I liked we were mixing up our positioning throughout the game. Needed to be just a bit cleaner to improve effectiveness.
- Pitto's best game in the ruck as well. Was jumping high on occasions, getting involved for clearances or assisting much more than he had previously. For the most part tap work had purpose.
- Levi isn't pretty in the ruck, usually jumping too early but it puts their ruck off, he often gets his hand to it, and backs up play. I still think he would be far from a bad option as a short term starting ruck given his follow up work.
- Ed's clearance work is probably underrated. He is a competitor and does some really great work in tight. I don't think though he should ever pay loose from his man as he does on occasions.
- I liked Kennedy and Williams when they could get involved. It's close to clicking for Williams, while Kennedy could adequately replace Cripps or Ed if needed I feel.
- Cripps has copped criticism for trying to do it all but he isn't looking to do it alone in the centre clearances at least. He looks to give it off probably more than any other.
Watching just the clearances in isolation, I thought we looked quite strong and a level above Port, which I wasn't expecting. Leaves me feeling much more positive about our prospects going forward. Just a shame about the parts in between.
Here's that gif for some positivity:
View attachment 1107845
Because SPS fumbles it more than he cleanly collects it. More than any other player he also frequently runs straight over it. Murphy shirks the contest more than any other player at Carlton - my most frequent observation is him running in and corralling - think he is worried about shoulders, body etc. Cuningham and Stocker would need to be in the team first.
Categorically wrong. He was the cleanest player on the ground vs gc and easily the cleanest vs freoBecause SPS fumbles it more than he cleanly collects it. More than any other player he also frequently runs straight over it.
Categorically wrong. He was the cleanest player on the ground vs gc and easily the cleanest vs freo
I pointed to 2 games you pointed to 1. He was horrendous vs Port. Never denied it, but he was brilliant and clean the two rounds before that. Was clean in the first 2 as well, despite playing a position that is just unsuited.He kicked it STRAIGHT to the opposition player directly in front of the goal. He over ran the ball on multiple occasions which was JUST USED in the highlights package by "sellers" to demontrate out "un-clean" we are with ball use. Literally two of the worst passages of play were by SPS and you claim he is the cleanest?
I get that you like him, and have some sort of affection for the bloke - but his performances down back have been abysmal and is the reason why every single football commentator on this forum and wider AFL community (outside yourself) say he is played out of position.
His stats prove it. The highlights prove it. The game replays prove it. General consensus proves it - you just "think" otherwise. Who knows why.
For all the positivity around the gif, it is still a no look EC snap around the corner. Somehow our wingman (Cotrell) needed to get involved rather than just following his man into the forward line or have a HB running through. That clearance gives our forwards less than 50% chance of winning the ball.
Betts I think (maybe Fogarty) marked it just outside the 50, but it was presumably more fortuitous than planned. I didn't watch beyond that.For all the positivity around the gif, it is still a no look EC snap around the corner. Somehow our wingman (Cotrell) needed to get involved rather than just following his man into the forward line or have a HB running through. That clearance gives our forwards less than 50% chance of winning the ball.
What was the final outcome? Did it result in a score?
Agree entirely here. Our clearances, whether from the centre square or just a general stoppage generally are made up of 1 or 2 handballs max before there is a long kick forwards. A long kick forwards immediately becomes a 50/50 contest.For all the positivity around the gif, it is still a no look EC snap around the corner. Somehow our wingman (Cotrell) needed to get involved rather than just following his man into the forward line or have a HB running through. That clearance gives our forwards less than 50% chance of winning the ball.
What was the final outcome? Did it result in a score?
In thinking how the bulldogs would have handled this.Agree entirely here. Our clearances, whether from the centre square or just a general stoppage generally are made up of 1 or 2 handballs max before there is a long kick forwards. A long kick forwards immediately becomes a 50/50 contest.
Our players need to learn how to operate smoothly as a team and play with cohesion. The good teams know how to transition the ball into their forward line without the opposition touching it. Where's the link-up play, the hard-running to make position, the ability to maintain possession through clean disposal from D50 into F50? This is sorely, sorely missed from our team -- and why we make it so hard for ourselves to be in a winning position against well-drilled teams.
No-one loves defensive running, but it's a pure necessity when the opposition has the ball. The cleaner & more efficient our disposal is, the more we're holding the ball, the less we're chasing the opposition around.
I suggest you look at the first 4 games again, form an opinion then listen to other peoples opinions and go from there, might be fun.He kicked it STRAIGHT to the opposition player directly in front of the goal. He over ran the ball on multiple occasions which was JUST USED in the highlights package by "sellers" to demontrate out "un-clean" we are with ball use. Literally two of the worst passages of play were by SPS and you claim he is the cleanest?
I get that you like him, and have some sort of affection for the bloke - but his performances down back have been abysmal and is the reason why every single football commentator on this forum and wider AFL community (outside yourself) say he is played out of position.
His stats prove it. The highlights prove it. The game replays prove it. General consensus proves it - you just "think" otherwise. Who knows why.
I think you are seeing what you want to re: SPS.Because SPS fumbles it more than he cleanly collects it. More than any other player he also frequently runs straight over it. Murphy shirks the contest more than any other player at Carlton - my most frequent observation is him running in and corralling - think he is worried about shoulders, body etc. Cuningham and Stocker would need to be in the team first.
Centre bounce summary (Blues kicking ---->)
Quarter 1 W 5 - 3 (8) Ed Williams Cripps Walsh doesn't care if he's starting or not, still wins it to Cripps for a scrubby clearance Walsh Kennedy Cripps (LC) Cripps breaks through but could have been a bit cleaner with handball to Walsh. He dishes it off to Doc who can only get a chip to forward square. Ed Cripps Kennedy (LC) Dixon wins the tap, Cripps and Kennedy hard at it. I've already given my thoughts about the Port free awarded here. Ed Cripps Walsh Nice jump from Pitto, taps down to Cripps, strong, to Walsh charging through, back to Cripps and defenders for wing clearance Ed Cripps Walsh Poor checking by Ed and possibly Cripps aids their clearance but it was nice work from Lycett Ed Walsh Cripps Pitto wins tap, good work by Cripps and Walsh but unlucky bounce prevents clearance, Port gather back of square and clear Ed Walsh Cripps Nice tap from Pitto to Cripps for a softer free than many not paid. Not allowed to play on stupidly. Cripps Ed Walsh Pitto collects and bangs it forward Quarter 2 L 2 - 4 (6) Ed Williams Cripps Ed played loose on Amon and he got the clearance. Bad bounce for Williams and Pitto left Lycett unchecked who assisted. Williams Ed Walsh Some of these frees they pick out are utterly ridiculous when you see what isn't called. Soft free against Williams. Walsh Kennedy Ed Stoppage from which the pull out a ruck infringement against Pitt. Port allowed the advantage Williams Walsh Cripps (LC) Levi nice tap down to Cripps who breaks away and pumps it i50 Ed Walsh Kennedy Pitto spoils the pass, opts for the mouse in the house run up to it off the ground for clearance Ed Walsh Cripps Initial viewing looked like Cripps trying to do too much but it wasn't the case. Couldn't get the clean pass and they clear Quarter 3 W 5 - 4 (9) Ed Cripps Walsh Walsh on the move, Lycett wins tap but Walsh tackles Boak, Ed great smoother, Walsh wins contested ball for effective clearance forward square Walsh Ed Cripps Cripps is held for one of the most blatant holding frees you could give, is ignored and his man assists the clearance Ed Cripps Walsh Lycett taps to Wines who is too strong and clears Ed Walsh Cripps Pitto wins tap but to Boak, if it was a set play it was brilliant or it could have been just fortunate, either way they clear Williams Kennedy Ed Lycett jumps all over Pitto early. Pitto with the easy collect and dashes away Danger style for an i50. Credit to MK for bodywork on Wines Williams Walsh Cripps (LC) LC may have tapped it, either way odd bounce that Walsh is quickest to read, uses Gibbo to Cripps for running shot or deep i50 Ed Cripps Walsh Pitto tries to grab it out of the ruck, fumbles, they collect and clear it Ed Kennedy Walsh I had to include a gif of this. IMO our best centre clearance of the year, so far as ruck and mid being in sync. Beautiful tap from Pitto and flick from Kennedy. Wozers, where did that come from Ed Williams Walsh Naturally we take Kennedy out of the centre for the rest of the game. What on earth was our rationale for that. This one, stoppage, Pitto free and we clear. Whatever. Quarter 4 W 4 - 1 (5) Fogarty Walsh Williams Pitto wins tap but it's straight down with no real intent, Fog strong tackle, Williams handballs wide, Walsh mops up and it gets back to Williams for effective wing clearance Ed Walsh
Cripps (LC)Levi wins the tap, fortunate bounce allows Cripps an easy give to Ed who bombs it i50 Ed Cripps Williams Bad bounce that Pitt gets a hand to, Ed's handball intercepted, falls Cripps way who was legged and uses Williams for a scrubber i50 Ed Cripps Walsh Bounce recalled. Pitto taps it forward to where Wines ran unchecked (Ed was our free defensive side). Lack of cohesion as our mids weren't ready for it. Ed Walsh Cripps Pitto beaming from his goal. Falls to Gray who throws it to Ed for a bomb i50. Walsh pressured Gray but I haven't given him a contribution here Total W 16 - 12 (28)
Attended (clearance contributions)
Total /28 Q1 /8 Q2 /6 Q3 /9 Q4 /5 Ed 24 (5) 7(0) 5(0) 8(2) 4(3) Walsh 23 (5) 6(2) 5(0) 8(2) 4(1) Cripps 21 (8) 8(4) 3(1) 6(1) 4(2) Williams 9 (2) 1(0) 3(0) 3(0) 2(2) Kennedy 6 (1) 2(0) 2(0) 2(1) 0 Fogarty 1 (1) 0 0 0 1(1)
Most used:
Cripps Ed Walsh x 14 (L 6 - 8)
Cripps Ed Williams x 3 (W 2 - 1)
Walsh Ed Kennedy x 3 (W 2 - 1)
Observations
- Our best game in the centre clearances this year imo. There was clear intent to get on the move, more than previously. Walsh led the way but I liked we were mixing up our positioning throughout the game. Needed to be just a bit cleaner to improve effectiveness.
- Pitto's best game in the ruck as well. Was jumping high on occasions, getting involved for clearances or assisting much more than he had previously. For the most part tap work had purpose.
- Levi isn't pretty in the ruck, usually jumping too early but it puts their ruck off, he often gets his hand to it, and backs up play. I still think he would be far from a bad option as a short term starting ruck given his follow up work.
- Ed's clearance work is probably underrated. He is a competitor and does some really great work in tight. I don't think though he should ever pay loose from his man as he does on occasions.
- I liked Kennedy and Williams when they could get involved. It's close to clicking for Williams, while Kennedy could adequately replace Cripps or Ed if needed I feel.
- Cripps has copped criticism for trying to do it all but he isn't looking to do it alone in the centre clearances at least. He looks to give it off probably more than any other.
Watching just the clearances in isolation, I thought we looked quite strong and a level above Port, which I wasn't expecting. Leaves me feeling much more positive about our prospects going forward. Just a shame about the parts in between.
Here's that gif for some positivity:
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Centre bounce summary (Blues kicking ---->)
Quarter 1 W 5 - 3 (8) Ed Williams Cripps Walsh doesn't care if he's starting or not, still wins it to Cripps for a scrubby clearance Walsh Kennedy Cripps (LC) Cripps breaks through but could have been a bit cleaner with handball to Walsh. He dishes it off to Doc who can only get a chip to forward square. Ed Cripps Kennedy (LC) Dixon wins the tap, Cripps and Kennedy hard at it. I've already given my thoughts about the Port free awarded here. Ed Cripps Walsh Nice jump from Pitto, taps down to Cripps, strong, to Walsh charging through, back to Cripps and defenders for wing clearance Ed Cripps Walsh Poor checking by Ed and possibly Cripps aids their clearance but it was nice work from Lycett Ed Walsh Cripps Pitto wins tap, good work by Cripps and Walsh but unlucky bounce prevents clearance, Port gather back of square and clear Ed Walsh Cripps Nice tap from Pitto to Cripps for a softer free than many not paid. Not allowed to play on stupidly. Cripps Ed Walsh Pitto collects and bangs it forward Quarter 2 L 2 - 4 (6) Ed Williams Cripps Ed played loose on Amon and he got the clearance. Bad bounce for Williams and Pitto left Lycett unchecked who assisted. Williams Ed Walsh Some of these frees they pick out are utterly ridiculous when you see what isn't called. Soft free against Williams. Walsh Kennedy Ed Stoppage from which the pull out a ruck infringement against Pitt. Port allowed the advantage Williams Walsh Cripps (LC) Levi nice tap down to Cripps who breaks away and pumps it i50 Ed Walsh Kennedy Pitto spoils the pass, opts for the mouse in the house run up to it off the ground for clearance Ed Walsh Cripps Initial viewing looked like Cripps trying to do too much but it wasn't the case. Couldn't get the clean pass and they clear Quarter 3 W 5 - 4 (9) Ed Cripps Walsh Walsh on the move, Lycett wins tap but Walsh tackles Boak, Ed great smoother, Walsh wins contested ball for effective clearance forward square Walsh Ed Cripps Cripps is held for one of the most blatant holding frees you could give, is ignored and his man assists the clearance Ed Cripps Walsh Lycett taps to Wines who is too strong and clears Ed Walsh Cripps Pitto wins tap but to Boak, if it was a set play it was brilliant or it could have been just fortunate, either way they clear Williams Kennedy Ed Lycett jumps all over Pitto early. Pitto with the easy collect and dashes away Danger style for an i50. Credit to MK for bodywork on Wines Williams Walsh Cripps (LC) LC may have tapped it, either way odd bounce that Walsh is quickest to read, uses Gibbo to Cripps for running shot or deep i50 Ed Cripps Walsh Pitto tries to grab it out of the ruck, fumbles, they collect and clear it Ed Kennedy Walsh I had to include a gif of this. IMO our best centre clearance of the year, so far as ruck and mid being in sync. Beautiful tap from Pitto and flick from Kennedy. Wozers, where did that come from Ed Williams Walsh Naturally we take Kennedy out of the centre for the rest of the game. What on earth was our rationale for that. This one, stoppage, Pitto free and we clear. Whatever. Quarter 4 W 4 - 1 (5) Fogarty Walsh Williams Pitto wins tap but it's straight down with no real intent, Fog strong tackle, Williams handballs wide, Walsh mops up and it gets back to Williams for effective wing clearance Ed Walsh
Cripps (LC)Levi wins the tap, fortunate bounce allows Cripps an easy give to Ed who bombs it i50 Ed Cripps Williams Bad bounce that Pitt gets a hand to, Ed's handball intercepted, falls Cripps way who was legged and uses Williams for a scrubber i50 Ed Cripps Walsh Bounce recalled. Pitto taps it forward to where Wines ran unchecked (Ed was our free defensive side). Lack of cohesion as our mids weren't ready for it. Ed Walsh Cripps Pitto beaming from his goal. Falls to Gray who throws it to Ed for a bomb i50. Walsh pressured Gray but I haven't given him a contribution here Total W 16 - 12 (28)
Attended (clearance contributions)
Total /28 Q1 /8 Q2 /6 Q3 /9 Q4 /5 Ed 24 (5) 7(0) 5(0) 8(2) 4(3) Walsh 23 (5) 6(2) 5(0) 8(2) 4(1) Cripps 21 (8) 8(4) 3(1) 6(1) 4(2) Williams 9 (2) 1(0) 3(0) 3(0) 2(2) Kennedy 6 (1) 2(0) 2(0) 2(1) 0 Fogarty 1 (1) 0 0 0 1(1)
Most used:
Cripps Ed Walsh x 14 (L 6 - 8)
Cripps Ed Williams x 3 (W 2 - 1)
Walsh Ed Kennedy x 3 (W 2 - 1)
Observations
- Our best game in the centre clearances this year imo. There was clear intent to get on the move, more than previously. Walsh led the way but I liked we were mixing up our positioning throughout the game. Needed to be just a bit cleaner to improve effectiveness.
- Pitto's best game in the ruck as well. Was jumping high on occasions, getting involved for clearances or assisting much more than he had previously. For the most part tap work had purpose.
- Levi isn't pretty in the ruck, usually jumping too early but it puts their ruck off, he often gets his hand to it, and backs up play. I still think he would be far from a bad option as a short term starting ruck given his follow up work.
- Ed's clearance work is probably underrated. He is a competitor and does some really great work in tight. I don't think though he should ever pay loose from his man as he does on occasions.
- I liked Kennedy and Williams when they could get involved. It's close to clicking for Williams, while Kennedy could adequately replace Cripps or Ed if needed I feel.
- Cripps has copped criticism for trying to do it all but he isn't looking to do it alone in the centre clearances at least. He looks to give it off probably more than any other.
Watching just the clearances in isolation, I thought we looked quite strong and a level above Port, which I wasn't expecting. Leaves me feeling much more positive about our prospects going forward. Just a shame about the parts in between.
Here's that gif for some positivity:
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Trust is the big one.I listened to Rodney Eade on RSN and it made me realise something.
There are two issues we have with our contests:
1. We don't work hard enough to get to contests, and
2. When we do work hard enough, we get too many players drawn to the contest whereby we outnumber the opposition (i.e Auskick), but if the opposition get it out, we lose on the outside and if we get it out, we wildly try to clear it and invariably the opposition are better positioned outside the contest.
The point was made that Richmond won't have 6 players in a contest with 3 opposition players. They work hard to get there but they wait in layers around the contest, so they can receive the ball or make the tackle.
We are obviously not smart enough to understand positioning or we have no trust in each other.
I listened to Rodney Eade on RSN and it made me realise something.
There are two issues we have with our contests:
1. We don't work hard enough to get to contests, and
2. When we do work hard enough, we get too many players drawn to the contest whereby we outnumber the opposition (i.e Auskick), but if the opposition get it out, we lose on the outside and if we get it out, we wildly try to clear it and invariably the opposition are better positioned outside the contest.
The point was made that Richmond won't have 6 players in a contest with 3 opposition players. They work hard to get there but they wait in layers around the contest, so they can receive the ball or make the tackle.
We are obviously not smart enough to understand positioning or we have no trust in each other.
Trust is the big one.
These are the reasons people bring up Barker as the stoppage coach and stoppage structures in general.I listened to Rodney Eade on RSN and it made me realise something.
There are two issues we have with our contests:
1. We don't work hard enough to get to contests, and
2. When we do work hard enough, we get too many players drawn to the contest whereby we outnumber the opposition (i.e Auskick), but if the opposition get it out, we lose on the outside and if we get it out, we wildly try to clear it and invariably the opposition are better positioned outside the contest.
The point was made that Richmond won't have 6 players in a contest with 3 opposition players. They work hard to get there but they wait in layers around the contest, so they can receive the ball or make the tackle.
We are obviously not smart enough to understand positioning or we have no trust in each other.