Autopsy Rd 9 Carlton v Fremantle Post Match Discussion

[Navara79]

Anybody think our fortunes may have been better if it had stayed dry?

Absolutely! We didn't adjust to the conditions at all. It was frustrating watching them play dry weather footy when it was pelting down.

 

[katmanblue]

If he has deserved a senior game then I have no qualms with giving him one. But this feels like Deja-Vu MK15 for Jones, he has burnt it up in the reserves in the past and earnt a senior game only to be a complete non-event once he gets there.

The reason why posters have stated they don't want him in the senior team is because he has been a serious liability previously.

This is it for him now, if he fails in a defensive role then there isn't anywhere else that he can be played.

There's always a 'but'. You could have left it at the first first sentence.

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[passmark]

There's always a 'but'. You could have left it at the first first sentence.

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Nah, there's always a qualifier.

 

[BLUEALLTHRU]

BOG is a bit far. He very good though.

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Maybe katmanblue BOG was a bit over the top but I really rate this bloke

 

[Dadda Dave]

Anybody think our fortunes may have been better if it had stayed dry?

Marchy spilled atleast 6 marks he usually takes

 

[katmanblue]

Plowman was very poor. Actually he has been pretty poor for a few games now. He started the season on fire, however I feel the last Month he has regressed to a level below his 2016 form.

SPS really needs a rest.

SOS seriously need to work on his goal kicking. 3 shots that really should have been goals.

We need to look into our setups deep in quarters.

Williamson is a bloody gun.

Out of all the games to drop White... happens to be the one where Rowe gets injured.

Marchy was pretty poor too.

I think they couldn't adjust in game when Rowe went down. Too many times going up for marks rather than spoiling and killing the contest allowing crumbed goals.

Simo and Doc also got beaten 1 on 1.

It didnt help that any time we tried to put pressure on freo were given a free kick.

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[passmark]

Marchy spilled atleast 6 marks he usually takes

I just thought we owned the ball and then it rained, and rained and rained.

 

[katmanblue]

He tested in top 10 in 5 different tests at 2016 "Combine".

Would love to know why he slid to Pick 61.

Clearly it was perceived he had some weaknesses.

Anyone know the answer?

Bottom age wasnt he?

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[Dadda Dave]

I just thought we owned the ball and then it rained, and rained and rained.

And we kept trying to play dry weather and our big fellas had no influence. .Cas should of been crashing packs it was like Johnston playing on his own ..

 

[katmanblue]

Maybe katmanblue BOG was a bit over the top but I really rate this bloke

Me too. I love it when he has ball in hand.

Have noticed the other guys are handballing to him for the kick out of d50 more often now?



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[koutamarto]

You obviously don't watch many games do you champ, if you had, you'd know that Mathew has rucked this way pretty much his whole career, but keep the insults coming, its actually quite amusing.

And this makes it accpetable? What a ridiculous argument. Obviously im dealing with an intellectual giant here.
Fyi I have not missed a game in 5 years. Which means i know Krooz has never been consistently a dominant tap ruck but makes up for it in other areas. Unfortunately yesterday big sandi had a massive influence on the game in that area. Neither krooz or our mids were able to adapt.
You can not deny sandis influence!

 

[tarczonandjane]

I just thought we owned the ball and then it rained, and rained and rained.

I agree Passmark. We also missed shots we might have kicked in the dry. Then again, we performed well enough against Essendon in the wet to suggest the rain is only an excuse.

 

[95bluemember]

Unfortunately missed the game today.

How did cuningham play?

This was my exact question too,also missed the game. Going by the stats he looked quiet, did he do any nice things? I was really bullish on Cunningham after seeing his highlight reel and training vids, but I haven't really seen him do anything at senior level which would back up my optimism. Iv seen great things from sps, fisher, sos and Charlie they all have a bit of "it" factor about them.

I must say boekhorst excited me a bit more than Cunningham with some of the things he has done in his first few games.
Left out Williamson, this kid definitely has "it" . What a hard nut!

 

[JustaBattler]

And this makes it accpetable? What a ridiculous argument. Obviously im dealing with an intellectual giant here.
Fyi I have not missed a game in 5 years. Which means i know Krooz has never been consistently a dominant tap ruck but makes up for it in other areas. Unfortunately yesterday big sandi had a massive influence on the game in that area. Neither krooz or our mids were able to adapt.
You can not deny sandis influence!

Your 'observation' about Kreuzer running around Sandilands instead of going at him - is ridiculous because you are suggesting that there is only one way to play against a taller and larger opponent. Kreuzer adapted his approach to try and nullify Sandilands ability to take front position and block using his body - I would point a finger at the ineptitude of the mids around the contest who have shown a total inability to read opposition taps or block or tackle when required....before implying Kreuzer lacked intenstinal fortitude.

There are few rucks that take on Sandilands ability to take taps- but there are plenty of midfiled on ballers who combine to limit his effectiveness Mundy and Fyfe were given free runs through the pack and were largely responsible for taking control of the game - and they went unanswered.

 

[katmanblue]

And this makes it accpetable? What a ridiculous argument. Obviously im dealing with an intellectual giant here.
Fyi I have not missed a game in 5 years. Which means i know Krooz has never been consistently a dominant tap ruck but makes up for it in other areas. Unfortunately yesterday big sandi had a massive influence on the game in that area. Neither krooz or our mids were able to adapt.
You can not deny sandis influence!

Resistance is futile.

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[95bluemember]

It's coming.




Be prepared.






THE BEAST.




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Yes! I think kruz needs a chop out and I think if anything jones will add a lot more around the ground than Phillips.

 

[koutamarto]

Your 'observation' about Kreuzer running around Sandilands instead of going at him - is ridiculous because you are suggesting that there is only one way to play against a taller and larger opponent. Kreuzer adapted his approach to try and nullify Sandilands ability to take front position and block using his body - I would point a finger at the ineptitude of the mids around the contest who have shown a total inability to read opposition taps or block or tackle when required....before implying Kreuzer lacked intenstinal fortitude.

There are few rucks that take on Sandilands ability to take taps- but there are plenty of midfiled on ballers who combine to limit his effectiveness Mundy and Fyfe were given free runs through the pack and were largely responsible for taking control of the game - and they went unanswered.

Thats not what im suggesting at all. Dont put words in my mouth. According to this other bloke he has done it his whole career?

 

[koutamarto]

Resistance is futile.

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Im out. Matty was clearly BoG

 

[JustaBattler]

Thats not what im suggesting at all. Dont put words in my mouth. According to this other bloke he has done it his whole career?

Im out. Matty was clearly BoG

dont let the door slam behind you - eh?

 

[feffs93]

SOSOS goal kicking becoming suspect

 

[passmark]

SOSOS goal kicking becoming suspect

Terrible conditions for goal kicking on Sunday.

He has one of the best goal kicking actions and he'll end up being one of the most reliable kicks for goal in the comp very shortly.

Just a blip. i wouldn't be dropping him for it.

 

[koutamarto]

dont let the door slam behind you - eh?

Yeah nice one mate!!

 

[koutamarto]

Terrible conditions for goal kicking on Sunday.

He has one of the best goal kicking actions and he'll end up being one of the most reliable kicks for goal in the comp very shortly.

Just a blip. i wouldn't be dropping him for it.

He is a nice kick for goal. Just not a long one. Seems alot of his shots are from 45ish or a tigth angle

 

[GordonBlue]

Terrible conditions for goal kicking on Sunday.

He has one of the best goal kicking actions and he'll end up being one of the most reliable kicks for goal in the comp very shortly.

Just a blip. i wouldn't be dropping him for it.

Yep, good action... but he misses way way too much. Even during warm-ups, he is consistently missing shots. It is weird. Definitely will want Sav to be in his ear.

 

[Weiterbot23]

50 try 150plus guys a jet!

Soz I meant he looks like a 50-100 game "already", very confident of him being a 10 year player