Preview Rd12 2018 St Kilda vs Sydney, Sat June 9th Etihad

[Mick Oxlong]

How good has he been in the reserves ? Notable performances against any AFL level forwards?

He did beat Patton but that hasn’t been hard to do lately.

 

[Mick Oxlong]

This weeks KPIs from the Footy Live app.

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I had to put my iPad on the other side of the road to read this!

 

[db swannie]

I don't think Aliir's been a shadow of his 2016 form. IMO he's been the same, and maybe that's the problem. He still has the same faults in his game that he had when he was a 21 (?) year old in his debut season, which we glossed over because it was his first year. Those faults - like lacking spacial awareness at times, frustratingly making some simple skill errors while nailing the more difficult and complex plays etc - I think we expected to be eradicated from his game by now as he is now 23, and we expected him to be a staple in our back-line by this point in his career. But I think what's important to remember is that as much of a talking point as he is, he has still only played 17 games. That's incredibly inexperienced for a key position player, especially an unconventional one. I think he's still inexperienced enough that we have to look at the pros and cons of Aliir as a player, just like we do with Hayward, or Florent, or Fox, or Newman, or Melican. You look at whether their positives outweigh the negatives and IMO they definitely do with Aliir.

I think that's more the point I constantly try to make with Aliir. I don't think he's the saviour of our team, nor do I think he's essential. I don't think anyone does think he's that good yet. But they see enough of a package there to work with and invest in, just like all the other youngsters, and we forget how inexperienced he is... like how dare a 17-gamer show flaws!

It's fine if you don't think Aliir should be in the team. If he's not banging the door down for selection then fair enough. But the 'Aliir is crap now' narrative that gets thrown out on this board is exhausting.

I agree with everything you’ve written EXCEPT for the use of the term “package”. That reminds me of Jake Stringer

 

[TheMase]

I had to put my iPad on the other side of the road to read this!

Sorry posting from my phone, I’ll have to have a look at when I get the chance....

 

[Punts]

Jack , stoddart, Newman out

McCartin, paply and Robinson

 

[caesar88]

Happy with that

 

[SilentHunter_]

Good changes imo. Jack is managed. Newman dropped on form and same goes for the Stud. The latter will get better with time.

 

[SwansProudly]

So Tom plays against his brother Paddy

 

[The King!]

Bye jack, dropped really let’s be honest

 

[caesar88]

Bye jack, dropped really let’s be honest

"Managed"

 

[SilentHunter_]

It'd be great if our midfielders actually show up for 4 quarters. By that I mean the experienced brigade because the young ones have been stepping up.

 

[Donza]

Better balance to side

 

[Kennedy Parker]

Can’t fault those changes
McCartin in

 

[Punts]

Towers should still be out 2nd ruck imo

Aliir should replace marsh imo , having a genuine 3rd tall might let Rampe be the interception king he was in 16

 

[Kennedy Parker]

Bye jack, dropped really let’s be honest

Inb4 he comes straight back in next week

 

[Punts]

Billing’s dropped

Brown brought in to take Buddy

 

[Jeffers]

Aints dropped Jack Billings. Apparently has been in really poor form.

 

[S120]

Love these changes. Papley is obvious, I like Robinson more than any of his rival fringe senior guys and he deserves a spot through weight of performance, and we need a 2nd tall up forward who isn't Rohan.

 

[SilentHunter_]

This is at Etihad our home ground so no excuses this week.

 

[caesar88]

Aints dropped Jack Billings. Apparently has been in really poor form.

That is really bad for the Saints. Middle of last year he was on the brink of being their best player, so in a team already lacking stars... that is a disappointing drop-off for them.

 

[Punts]

Hopefully that’s it for Newman

Plenty of chances

 

[caesar88]

Hopefully that’s it for Newman

Plenty of chances

You weren't a fan of him last year? Thought he was a bit soft but he got a lot of the ball and did some good things with it (though his celebrated left boot is completely over-rated IMO)

 

[SwansProudly]

Which of our emergencies will travel to Melbourne?

• 36 Aliir Aliir
• 15 Kieren Jack
• 28 Nic Newman
• 22 Dean Towers

 

[grimlock]

Which of our emergencies will travel to Melbourne?

• 36 Aliir Aliir
• 15 Kieren Jack
• 28 Nic Newman
• 22 Dean Towers

It’s likely to be Jack.

 

[Big Blood]

So Tom plays against his brother Paddy

Hope Paddy is ready to be humiliated.

No surprise to see Stoddart, Newman dropped. And Jack - who knows? Has he been carrying an injury like last year?