Autopsy Rd3 Roast & Toast vs Sydney & Changes for Port Adelaide Rd4

Best 5 vs Sydney?

  • David Astbury

    Votes: 5 3.7%
  • Noah Balta

    Votes: 22 16.2%
  • Dylan Grimes

    Votes: 10 7.4%
  • Liam Baker

    Votes: 37 27.2%
  • Nathan Broad

    Votes: 36 26.5%
  • Jayden Short

    Votes: 32 23.5%
  • Kamdyn McIntosh

    Votes: 43 31.6%
  • Trent Cotchin

    Votes: 8 5.9%
  • Marlion Pickett

    Votes: 20 14.7%
  • Shai Bolton

    Votes: 4 2.9%
  • Jason Castagna

    Votes: 101 74.3%
  • Shane Edwards

    Votes: 33 24.3%
  • Tom Lynch

    Votes: 61 44.9%
  • Jack Reiwoldt

    Votes: 8 5.9%
  • Dustin Martin

    Votes: 28 20.6%
  • Toby Nankervis

    Votes: 14 10.3%
  • Kane Lambert

    Votes: 9 6.6%
  • Daniel Rioli

    Votes: 10 7.4%
  • Jake Aarts

    Votes: 4 2.9%
  • Josh Caddy

    Votes: 11 8.1%
  • Dereck Eggmolesse Smith

    Votes: 10 7.4%
  • Jack Graham

    Votes: 7 5.1%

  • Total voters
    136
  • Poll closed .

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muzhogg

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Really missing Vlaustin as our main intercept marking defender. Need Houli back asap. Can't underestimate his steadying influence. I think we need to bring Balta up to CHB to help cover for our midfielders if we're getting killed out of the middle. Astbury, Grimes and Broad play deep back so Balta becomes our go to intercept man until Vlaustin is back again. Frees up Shortly and Bakes as our outside runners off the HB flanks. But it would really help if our midfield could break just break even or better still get on top to ease the pressure off our defence. The Swans midfield killed us on the weekend.
Yeah, was the midfield dominance that let them execute those quality inside 50 entries and hit up targets.

We absolutely need to take that away from them.
 

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Rampe was kind enough to offer a few insights into Sydney's strategy to break down our defense. The following is from the Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...y-flyin-ryan-soars-again-20210404-p57gdm.html)



I'd offer the observation that our midfield didn't bring the usual pressure and this allowed the Swans to execute this plan a little too easily.

I suppose we at least know what we're up against.

Any thoughts on how to combat this other than getting our midfield pressure back up so delivery to the oppo forwards doesn't work quite so easily?
Your backline can't stop a onslaught when your ruckman is getting destroyed and your mids can't get their hands on it
Easy strategy when there is no midfield pressure you can hit targets lace out, our backline works when our mids swarm and create pressure kicks
To their forwards, no defence in the comp will hold with
No defensive pressure in the midfield.
 

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Rampe was kind enough to offer a few insights into Sydney's strategy to break down our defense. The following is from the Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...y-flyin-ryan-soars-again-20210404-p57gdm.html)



I'd offer the observation that our midfield didn't bring the usual pressure and this allowed the Swans to execute this plan a little too easily.

I suppose we at least know what we're up against.

Any thoughts on how to combat this other than getting our midfield pressure back up so delivery to the oppo forwards doesn't work quite so easily?
I believe other teams have done this before, usually it is just down to our pressure and effort. It wasn't there this week. Due to them being so good and us being a bit off.
Obviously Geelong would of tried to do this to us by keeping the ball off the ground
 

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Rampe was kind enough to offer a few insights into Sydney's strategy to break down our defense. The following is from the Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...y-flyin-ryan-soars-again-20210404-p57gdm.html)



I'd offer the observation that our midfield didn't bring the usual pressure and this allowed the Swans to execute this plan a little too easily.

I suppose we at least know what we're up against.

Any thoughts on how to combat this other than getting our midfield pressure back up so delivery to the oppo forwards doesn't work quite so easily?
Our mids simply y couldn’t get their hands on the pill Bolton 7p shedda Martin graham quiet, Prestia off with some changes I expect a strong response
 

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Really missing Vlaustin as our main intercept marking defender. Need Houli back asap. Can't underestimate his steadying influence. I think we need to bring Balta up to CHB to help cover for our midfielders if we're getting killed out of the middle. Astbury, Grimes and Broad play deep back so Balta becomes our go to intercept man until Vlaustin is back again. Frees up Shorty and Bakes as our outside runners off the HB flanks. But it would really help if our midfield could just break even or better still get on top to ease the pressure off our defence. The Swans midfield killed us on the weekend.
I reckon shedda goes back to be that interceptor , has done it quite effectively before
 

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Your backline can't stop a onslaught when your ruckman is getting destroyed and your mids can't get their hands on it
Easy strategy when there is no midfield pressure you can hit targets lace out, our backline works when our mids swarm and create pressure kicks
To their forwards, no defence in the comp will hold with
No defensive pressure in the midfield.
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Spot on. Worse still, it was the Swans kids waltzing out the middle with next to no pressure hiitting lead up targets at will, especially in the 2nd qtr. Dimmas instructions this week will be simple. Our midfield need to bring it !! Hoping Cotch is right to go, Ross should go ok and maybe Bolton plays the whole go as a mid this week.
 

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I reckon shedda goes back to be that interceptor , has done it quite effectively before
Port can be a bit one dimensional in the midfield so will be fascinating how we set-up in the centre and on the wings. I think we have to play Chol this week. Nank needs some help. Bolton for me is the key this week. He was great in the PF and GF last year and we need him to produce that form again.
 

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I believe other teams have done this before, usually it is just down to our pressure and effort. It wasn't there this week. Due to them being so good and us being a bit off.
Obviously Geelong would of tried to do this to us by keeping the ball off the ground
calculated loss by Dimmer to see how we can be picked apart, he does it in the early rounds every year

we will barely loose from here on out
 

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calculated loss by Dimmer to see how we can be picked apart, he does it in the early rounds every year

we will barely loose from here on out
Yeah I remember in the doco he said what we always say here , we don't lose to the same team twice a year , I believe they will defs go to school on the syd game and work something out. Just need vlastuin back badly and houli, I'm hoping we can hold on without vlastuin and go 2-2 or 3-1 at least
 

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Yeah I remember in the doco he said what we always say here , we don't lose to the same team twice a year , I believe they will defs go to school on the syd game and work something out. Just need vlastuin back badly and houli, I'm hoping we can hold on without vlastuin and go 2-2 or 3-1 at least
all the other teams will now spend the season trying to copy what Swan did against us, but we have a different gameplan ready to go and will continue ream each and every one of em
 

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Rampe was kind enough to offer a few insights into Sydney's strategy to break down our defense. The following is from the Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...y-flyin-ryan-soars-again-20210404-p57gdm.html)



I'd offer the observation that our midfield didn't bring the usual pressure and this allowed the Swans to execute this plan a little too easily.

I suppose we at least know what we're up against.

Any thoughts on how to combat this other than getting our midfield pressure back up so delivery to the oppo forwards doesn't work quite so easily?
I thought their use of Hickey was the biggest difference between what we are used to seeing from other teams. Instead of having him compete for the high ball inside the 50 they had him for short option out wide which is where he cashed in with two goals and had 5 uncontested marks. Our guys were set up to defend the high ball perfectly but when they used the short option and it exposed us. The new 'rule' helped them in this regard as did the umpires not understanding how far 15 metres is but going forward this is going to be something we need to be more alert too. There was also times when it worked for us when the pressure of the field was to a high standard and Nank was able to get across and intercept.

Also we were uncharacteristically sloppy with our ball movement 50-80 metres out from goal and wasted many chances when entering the forward 50. On another day we convert those opportunities or lock the ball inside our half of the ground and the rest of the game plays out much different. Instead we turned it over and they were able to hurt us on the rebound. Partly because of how good they were and also a bit of luck with the ball landing in their lap more often than it did us.
 

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Caroline Wilson on Footy Classified.
Never a positive word to say about the game.
Criticising Chris Scott for being emotional during the game.
Most of the tactical planning is prepared before the match.
Did she not see Clarko being emotional in the coaches' box today?
Has she not seen EPL coaches on the sidelines?
Mamma mia.
 

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I suppose we at least know what we're up against.
Any thoughts on how to combat this other than getting our midfield pressure back up so delivery to the oppo forwards doesn't work quite so easily?
Sydney moved the ball from their back half to their forward line way too easy.
So we have to first and foremost close down space, and of course, increase the pressure when the opportunity presents which didn't happen all too often on Sat as the swans easily pinpointed passes which hardly created any loose balls.

Now, we know with the new rules that it favours the kicker as the man on the mark can't move. The swans had way too much free space to play with, we need to bring players up to close the short space but allow enough distance to tease them into trying to pinpoint passes that could result in turnovers or they will attempt to go over the congested zone. The margin of error increases with their easy exits narrowed or closed off. Once a few turnovers occur the pressure mounts and with inferred pressure too, they will start second-guessing themselves.
 
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The Geelong v Hawthorn match was an important game.
A reversion to traditional lower scoring, the crowding of defence.
Zone defence against the new-look pacy Swans is the key.
Martyn has an aggressive style, would like to see him go after the Port key mids.
Play Hugo as a high half back, almost defensive side mid.
Had a look at a couple of the Port games.
Houston is very important as the feeder into the forward line.
Would only make two changes, if KMc and Prestia are both injured.
In : Will Martyn, Hugo.
Out: KMc, Prestia (inj).
If only one is injured, omit Egg.
 

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Was Houli-IN/Egg-OUT so obvious you didn't bother including it?

Poor form mate, I saw Egg was not in the 'OUTS', looked through the team 4 times...looked in the back pocket, looked on the HBF, looked on the bench, looked in the ruck, considered the possibility you'd nicknamed him 'Ralph'...still can't find him. ;)
Egg out - why didn't I think of that.

Reckon Houli, who has played 3/4 of a practice match since the GF might need another week. Also turning 33 next month, not many players his age come back from injury and perform like he did 2 years ago. He will be a handy addition when up and running, but as his form showed early last year coming back from injury it takes him a while to find that form. Last seasons 14 games were at 18.6 disposals per game, the least since his debut year in 2007, way down on his injury free 2019 27.8 disposals per game.
 
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Rampe was kind enough to offer a few insights into Sydney's strategy to break down our defense. The following is from the Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...y-flyin-ryan-soars-again-20210404-p57gdm.html)



I'd offer the observation that our midfield didn't bring the usual pressure and this allowed the Swans to execute this plan a little too easily.

I suppose we at least know what we're up against.

Any thoughts on how to combat this other than getting our midfield pressure back up so delivery to the oppo forwards doesn't work quite so easily?
One positive for us is that the Swans have a very dangerous forward line and are basically the only team in the comp right now to execute that game plan
No other team has 6 forwards as dangerous as they do
 

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Sydney moved the ball from their back half to their forward line way too easy.
So we have to first and foremost close down space, and of course, increase the pressure when the opportunity presents which didn't happen all too often on Sat as the swans easily pinpointed passes which hardly created any loose balls.

Now, we know with the new rules that it favours the kicker as the man on the mark can't move. The swans had way too much free space to play with, we need to bring players up to close the short space but allow enough distance to tease them into trying to pinpoint passes that could result in turnovers or they will attempt to go over the congested zone. The margin of error increases with their easy exits narrowed or closed off. Once a few turnovers occur the pressure mounts and with inferred pressure too, they will start second-guessing themselves.
My thoughts are that if the administration of the game want to turn our once fierce contested game into bruise free footy that is their choice. However to give the defending team some chance of turning the ball over there needs to be a crackdown on the the dinky kicks that travel well under the prescribed 15 metres
If this is to difficult to adjudicate I would have no problem with the distance being increased to 20m
 

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The Geelong v Hawthorn match was an important game.
A reversion to traditional lower scoring, the crowding of defence.
Zone defence against the new-look pacy Swans is the key.
Martyn has an aggressive style, would like to see him go after the Port key mids.
Play Hugo as a high half back, almost defensive side mid.
Had a look at a couple of the Port games.
Houston is very important as the feeder into the forward line.
Would only make two changes, if KMc and Prestia are both injured.
In : Will Martyn, Hugo.
Out: KMc, Prestia (inj).
If only one is injured, omit Egg.
There's no way Ross doesn't play.

Egg has to be dropped.
 

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The Geelong v Hawthorn match was an important game.
A reversion to traditional lower scoring, the crowding of defence.
Zone defence against the new-look pacy Swans is the key.
Martyn has an aggressive style, would like to see him go after the Port key mids.
Play Hugo as a high half back, almost defensive side mid.
Had a look at a couple of the Port games.
Houston is very important as the feeder into the forward line.
Would only make two changes, if KMc and Prestia are both injured.
In : Will Martyn, Hugo.
Out: KMc, Prestia (inj).
If only one is injured, omit Egg.
Commentators were saying our zone defence was our problem against Sydney.
 

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an off game can become an off month
so will be keen to see this weeks performance

in the Crows GC game I thought GC started a bit like the Swans
fast ball movement , taking first options and not stopping to think about "best" option
but they couldn't maintain it
I felt some of it was due to the Crows pressure , but there were plenty of truly unforced errors from the Gold Coast
The Swans got their tails up and maintained fast ball movement and expansive play all game

How to close down games and bring pressure under the current rules is a challenge

While not departing from our structure , going man on man for a stint , could stop an oppositions run and gun approach

We have had sides turning the tap on and off with tempo footy when in attack for decades

We may have to do similar with our defence to keep sides guessing
 

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Out : Prestia (inj), KMac (Inj), Cotchin (why risk him this time of year for an away game), Egg (we all unfortunately saw)

Rioli bloody lucky.

In : Ross (just has to), Ralphsmith (love to), Chol (CCJ spewing, id look at Samson instead of as well), Houli (he's back)
 
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