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"Deboy was born in Adelaide, South Australia and attended Eynesbury Senior College. He grew up as a mad Port Adelaide Football Club supporter and admits he still holds a soft spot for them despite entering the umpiring ranks. He is married and resides in Melbourne, Australia."

The above is from umpire Deboy's Wikipaedia page.

He's an Adelaide boy and a "mad" Port supporter. Explains the one way diabolical decisions on Saturday night. Does the AFL integrity unit still exist.
he umpired as a supporter not a neutral

just lol. what a mickey mouse organisation. you arent even allowed to complain
 

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Rubber Hips

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any vids or they just make it up ?
haven’t seen any vision...and I wouldn’t put it past the AFL to just make crap up

but they did look at the Shedda incident with Duursma thinking Shedda played a role in him hurting himself ...AFL couldn’t ping it on Shedda bc the vision clearly showed Duursmas foot jarring before being tackled
 

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... it's a bit of a pet gripe of mine...

...it's a bit like players furiously punching the ball in a tackle. There's obviously no intent whatsoever to get the ball out, yet if they do it the umpire will be nice enough to pretend they're making a genuine attempt...
I didn't know there were so many ways to say you're surprised professional-level footballers can miss handballs at close range haha I can definitely appreciate your awareness level of this gripe :D

With regard to the punching of the footy when the ball is pinned, I agree it's a bit of a "look at me" sort of move, but it's the one that's likely to actually have the umpire in zero doubt of the actual intention of the player because if you try to just pull the ball out of a pinned situation with just brute strength the umpire is very likely to not be able to even see what you're trying to do and call you for HTB, so I have no issues with the exaggeration of such moves.
 

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Yep. I keep banging on about it. It worked for a while, while we had the small forwards zipping around nailing tackles and crumbing goals but we don't have that anymore. Our pressure forwards barely tackle and they barely kick goals. With Lynch getting mobbed by defenders every time they drop it on his head it leaves Jack and part-timers like Dusty and Lambert to kick our goals. It needs a serious shake up. Has gone from a strength to a weakness.
absolutely, and there`s our problem. Need more presence roving from our smalls if we are going long that way but first create some space and let forwards lead and mark in front instead of constant manic contests were the ball can be rebounded quickly
So hypothetically if gray had noone around and he was in the goal square and he handballed it through its a free right ?

Basically it's and interpretation on sufficient pressure.

Tbh his first motive was to grab it and handball it straight away. Dodgy to me . I thought it's what the rule is there for.
I felt it was a joke of a non decision, I do know if it was a Richmond defender doing the same I would undoubtedly see the immense pressure that he was under. I am sure if that had gone out of bounds it would be called deliberate so the rule is a joke in itself I feel. It`s like when there is a short time to go, boundary throw in forward pocket, defending ruck belts straight back over line, what's the intent? The AFL needs to stop making all of these unnecessary changes or at least make the rule clear so as to remove the 50/50 interpretation from so many decisions. Hurst to say as a Tiger but lets just make it Black & White!
 

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The VFL match report off the club’s website

VFL Tigers tough it out in loss to Werribee
Richmond ended its practice match series with a 15-point defeat at the hands of Werribee.
By Brenton Mann, Richmond Media - 18 hrs ago


Rioli gathers the ball at half-forward, darts in and out of traffic and handballs off to Rioli as Richmond thrusts the ball inside 50.
You could get used to having that ring in the ears as the years tick by, Tiger Army.
It was a case of keeping up with the Riolis at Chrinside Park on Friday night as Richmond was hosted by Werribee in the final practice match of 2021.
Daniel and Maurice were the headline act as Richmond sought to topple Werribee on its home deck, but unfortunately for the Tigers of the Richmond-variety, the home side got the better of them by 15 points.
Werribee had the edge in polish but the Tigers more than matched the more seasoned hosts with their toughness and pressure, with the final scoreboard reading 8.14 (62) to 6.11 (47).




VFL: Practice match v Werribee
Highlights of the VFL practice match against Werribee.
Richmond has shown it’s made of true grit, and with a little more polish in attack could have walked away with the victory.
It’s hard enough escaping a tackle from one Rioli, let alone two, as Daniel and Maurice enjoyed each other’s company whilst they hunted anyone in a yellow jumper with a black W.
The pair wrapped up a Werribee defender in a Rioli sandwich, drawing the opening free kick of the game.
Daniel, following his omission from AFL level, looked a cut above from the opening bounce, showcasing his poise, speed and skill through the midfield.
The senior Rioli started at the centre bounce and was involved in the opening passage, helping clear the ball and getting it going the Tigers’ way.
Maurice picked up from where he left off last week, splitting his time between forward and midfield and looks to be growing in confidence with the greater minutes he plays.
The younger Rioli’s strength as a midfielder is his clean hands and timing at stoppages, as he flashes through congestion, gathering the ball with one touch and bursting clear.


Another player who didn’t make the trip to Adelaide Oval this week was Derek Eggmolesse-Smith, as the dashing defender applied his lessons learnt from last week’s loss to Sydney against Werribee.
Eggmolesse-Smith controlled the defensive-half, chiming in with perfect timing to either spoil or intercept mark, transforming defence into attack in a heartbeat with his sure hands and raking left-boot.
The rebounding half-back was the best Tiger across the four quarters, as he worked himself to the bone to ignite and inspire his side.
Werribee kicked the opening goal of the night before Richmond’s twin towers in Callum Coleman-Jones and Samson Ryan hit the scoreboard.
Coleman-Jones kicked the Tigers' first goal of the night after drawing a free kick in a marking contest, with Ryan following suit soon after.
The pair teamed well in attack.
Even though they have played minimal games together, they seem to have developed a solid understanding of where each needs to be positioned to create the required separation to create one-on-one chances inside 50.
Richmond led by a goal before Werribee hit back late in the first quarter with back-to-back goals and took an eight-point lead into the first change.
The game tightened up further in the second term, with both sides’ defensive structures hard to penetrate and ball movement was stifled.
The ball was thrust from contest-to-contest as the game was played in the clinches rather than through slick transition.
Both sides kicked a goal apiece, as Werribee led by just four points at the main break.
Werribee kicked the first goal after half-time and began finding targets inside 50, as it kicked another shortly after.
The Tigers’ pressure and intensity around the ball couldn’t be questioned, but they were let down by their ability to control and maintain the ball when in transition.
That changed as Richmond kicked its fourth goal via the sure right boot of Coleman-Jones.
It was just reward for the Tigers’ best passage of ball movement up until that point, as they won the ball back in their defensive 50, pierced it down the outer wing, with Riley Collier-Dawkins driving the ball long and deep to Coleman-Jones at the top of the goal square.
The big man converted for his second goal of the evening.
Werribee hit back again, extending the margin to 20 points, and eventually led by 18 points as the three-quarter time siren sounded.
After eight minutes of the ball living between the arcs, Richmond broke the deadlock and kicked the first goal of the final term.
The Tigers scrubbed through another goal in quick succession as they were able to lock the ball in their front-half and put Werribee under some serious heat for a prolonged period.
The margin was back to a goal as Richmond continued to surge.
However, it failed to capitalise fully on its field position as Werribee sealed its win with the final goal of the game.
Richmond would take comfort in the fact that it stuck to its task from siren-to-siren as the Tigers never dropped their head or looked out of the contest.
They end their practice match series 3–2 and displayed the traits that will carry this young group through the upcoming VFL season.
The Tigers kick-off their campaign at lunchtime on Friday, April 16 against Sandringham at the Swinburne Centre.
WERRIBEE: 3.3 4.4 7.8 8.14 (62)
RICHMOND: 2.1 3.6 4.8 6.11 (47)
 

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Rayzorwire

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We will need one Rioli to replace the underperforming Aarts, and I would like to see CJ come in as second ruck.
Nothing personal in singling you out, fargo, as lots of people are saying this (you're just the most recent), but which tall forward (or defender, or Nank) do people want dropped for him to come in?

The Saints completely outran the Eagles yesterday in the 2nd half and toweled up the same midfield that completely took Port apart the game before courtesy of Naitanui's ruck work.

If we don't drop a tall for CCJ to come in, we go in a runner (arguably two) short against a side who just absolutely smashed the Eagles in clearances - despite Naitanui dominating - on their home deck, a ground which is always dangerous for us.

To me, the only way you can afford to play two rucks and therefore 3-talls at both ends is if you're confident you have the midfield firepower and full ground run to dominate the other side. I think it's impossible to argue we're in that situation against the Saints.
 

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Why the hell do the coaches drop players like Rioli and Brandon Ellis back in the day for not performing their role in the seniors in a certain position ,then play them in the middle in the reserve's.
Rioli wins the first centre clearance in the VFL ,when was the last time he went into a centre clearance in the seniors?
Play both Riolis together. The buzz and excitement that would bring would be magic
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"Deboy was born in Adelaide, South Australia and attended Eynesbury Senior College. He grew up as a mad Port Adelaide Football Club supporter and admits he still holds a soft spot for them despite entering the umpiring ranks. He is married and resides in Melbourne, Australia."

The above is from umpire Deboy's Wikipaedia page.

He's an Adelaide boy and a "mad" Port supporter. Explains the one way diabolical decisions on Saturday night. Does the AFL integrity unit still exist.
wow
 

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"Deboy was born in Adelaide, South Australia and attended Eynesbury Senior College. He grew up as a mad Port Adelaide Football Club supporter and admits he still holds a soft spot for them despite entering the umpiring ranks. He is married and resides in Melbourne, Australia."

The above is from umpire Deboy's Wikipaedia page.

He's an Adelaide boy and a "mad" Port supporter. Explains the one way diabolical decisions on Saturday night. Does the AFL integrity unit still exist.
I seriously wish our club would bring this up with the AFL it’s blatant bias for all to see , the campaigner shouldn’t be allowed to umpire Port games or us because he ******* hates us .
 

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Why the hell do the coaches drop players like Rioli and Brandon Ellis back in the day for not performing their role in the seniors in a certain position ,then play them in the middle in the reserve's.
Rioli wins the first centre clearance in the VFL ,when was the last time he went into a centre clearance in the seniors?


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Wouldn't that be up to the VFL coach though?
 

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X Clarke has said a few times that the match committee want players played in certain positions when they drop back too the VFL .Brandon Ellis was played in the centre plenty of times in the VFL and get 30 plus possessions then come back into the seniors and play on the wing .
I know the coaches are trying too get the players confidence up by playing them on ball but it doesn't help Rioli if you bring him back in and then play him small forward again.
Wouldn't that be up to the VFL coach though?
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X Clarke has said a few times that the match committee want players played in certain positions when they drop back too the VFL .Brandon Ellis was played in the centre plenty of times in the VFL and get 30 plus possessions then come back into the seniors and play on the wing .
I know the coaches are trying too get the players confidence up by playing them on ball but it doesn't help Rioli if you bring him back in and then play him small forward again.

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Sometimes they just want them to get their hands on the footy.
 
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