RDFL 2014 Thread

[Skipper1966]

Hope everyone was kept safe last week. I know it was very hectic for a lot of us . Hopefully now we can all concentrate on footy

 

[qwerty]

Has burnt plenty bridges in country football after stints swan hill, rushy and Mooroopna. The bloke can play there's no doubting that but like Roota said head has to be right otherwise I have been told to stay away.


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May have burnt another bridge as well, because he also signed at Rushworth for 2014!

 

[Doona2]

AFL JuMP & RDFNL Junior Club Rego Days

In 2014 the AFL, in conjunction with AFL Victoria and all AFL Victoria Metropolitan leagues, will introduce the new AFL Junior Match Policy commonly referred to as AFL JuMP. The newly adopted policy has been over 12 months in the making and has been constructed to provide junior footballers of all levels and abilities with the best possible opportunity to develop.
The RDFNL has worked closely with all AFL Vic Metro leagues and key stakeholders of junior football within the AFL system to devise, construct and implement guidelines of junior football to meet the best interests of junior footballers.
Of greatest significance is the achievement of uniformity across the metro leagues with regards to match conditions and policies for junior football. In previous seasons, neighboring clubs in different leagues could play under differing localised rules and match conditions, often creating difficulty with player development and retention.
Of the many improvements implemented for the 2014 season, the more significant improvements include:

• Dividing junior football into two phases: Development Phase and Competition Phase
• Development Phase – Under 8 – Under 10.
• Competition Phase – Under 12 – Under 16.
• Reduced playing ground size for Under 10 football where grounds are too large
• Modified tackling rules which prevent players at Under 10 level from being taken to the ground (a major cause of injury to players under 10 years of age)
• Under 10 players only allowed one bounce to encourage sharing of the football
• No Premiership Points, scoring, ladders, publishing of results or best and fairest awards at Under 10 level.

The shift from focusing on a match result over the continual improvement of a clubs’ players is a move in the right direction according to RDFNL Operations Manager Toby Boyle.
“At Under 10 level our clubs can now place the greatest amount of focus on player development without the pressure of focusing on whether the team is winning or not,” Boyle commented.
There have been minor adjustments in match length times and other match conditions to assist umpires and coaches at Under 10 level.
For the RDFNL, the match program from Under 12 level upwards will remain largely unchanged with all RDFNL clubs receiving a detailed copy of the AFL JuMP prior to Christmas last year. AFL Victoria will soon launch its “Junior Football Match Guide – This Is Our Game” campaign to all Junior players, clubs and leagues.
In further good news for the RDFNL, the previous junior structure of the league has been amended to allow for teams at Under 12 level upwards to find their competitive level. In 2014 the RDFNL will structure the junior competition as follows:

• Turner Division: RDFNL clubs with two or more teams per age group will affiliate a Senior and Reserve team each in age groups of Under 10, 12, 14 and 16.
• Beatson Division: RDFNL clubs with one team in each age group will affiliate a team in each age group of Under 10, 12, 14 and 16.
• Watson Division: RDFNL clubs with less than one team per age group or clubs given exemptions by the RDFNL will affiliate the teams they have in as many age groups of Under 10, 12, 14 and 16 as they can. Turner and Beatson clubs with excess teams will be affiliated in this division.

The three divisions have been named after long serving RDFNL Junior identities; current Board Member and Life Member Steve Turner, current RDFNL Junior Development Officer Rob Beatson and RDFNL Life Member and Ambassador Charlie Watson.
“Creating the new structure was an important step to coincide with the introduction of the AFL JuMP,” explained Boyle.
“The new structure not only places clubs in divisions with other clubs of similar player numbers, but more importantly allows families to stick together more than ever before”
“The RDFNL will not back down from what it considers most important at Junior level – development and family friendly clubs over win at all costs culture”.
The change in structure has also paved the way for the introduction of Junior Netball for clubs affiliated to the Turner and Beatson Division in 13 & Under and 15 & Under age groups. The first season of the RDFNL Junior Netball competition will ensure that the RDFNL has a structured Netball pathway and provides opportunities for young netballers in the region to play sport each Sunday during the RDFNL season.

 

[Doona2]

Extremely interested in the thoughts on everyone regarding the changes at under 10's level? I know it isn't an RDFL sanctioned thing, it's across the board for AFL Vic. I'm in favour of smaller grounds, the no kicking off the ground, no tackling players to the ground, mouthguards, headgear etc but to not be playing for points Im dead against.

My young bloke has been keen as mustard for 12 months to be old enough for footy. This past weekend he's already been talking about not playing in 2015 or finding an under 11's club because they play "real footy."

How many kids/parents will give away games a miss considering (for example) a trip from Kilmore to Melton (and vice versa) for a 8/8.30am game with nothing to play for other than "enjoyment"????

I thought that's what 3-4 years of Auskick was meant for

 

[HULK HOGAN]

Extremely interested in the thoughts on everyone regarding the changes at under 10's level? I know it isn't an RDFL sanctioned thing, it's across the board for AFL Vic. I'm in favour of smaller grounds, the no kicking off the ground, no tackling players to the ground, mouthguards, headgear etc but to not be playing for points Im dead against.

My young bloke has been keen as mustard for 12 months to be old enough for footy. This past weekend he's already been talking about not playing in 2015 or finding an under 11's club because they play "real footy."

How many kids/parents will give away games a miss considering (for example) a trip from Kilmore to Melton (and vice versa) for a 8/8.30am game with nothing to play for other than "enjoyment"????

I thought that's what 3-4 years of Auskick was meant for

Interesting..... My son played in the Kilmore u/10 a side last year and basically the whole team goes up to u/12 this year presumably the reserve team, which I was hoping would be in C grade. Last season they didn't win a game and were Beaten on average by 10 goals per week, I notice they will be playing against the same teams who will be in the same situation, could be another long season.....

 

[matt_nicholls]

I still remember playing in an under-10 grand final for Romsey-Lancefield where we drew with Kilmore at Diggers Rest and lost in extra time.

We were upset at losing, but it lasted a couple of hours at most. Competition on the field isn't unhealthy. Over-competitive parents is unhealthy.

 

[matt_nicholls]

PS. Congrats to Halffullonfence for being recognised for his long service to RDFL football and in particular, junior development. Still the best under-18 coach to have graced the competition.

 

[matt_nicholls]

PPS. Great to see junior netball introduced. I know some towns already have good, structured junior netball competitions, but many do not, and this gives girls the chance to be a part of the Sunday fun. The RDFL should be introducing girls/women's football fairly soon as well. The growth is incredible.

 

[Doona2]

I still remember playing in an under-10 grand final for Romsey-Lancefield where we drew with Kilmore at Diggers Rest and lost in extra time.

We were upset at losing, but it lasted a couple of hours at most. Competition on the field isn't unhealthy. Over-competitive parents is unhealthy.

Spot on there

 

[Jack_Bauer]

I agree with Doons. Most of the restructure is great. Smaller grounds - tick. No tackling to ground - tick. But no score board or ladders - cross. This has all come about by a generation of doo gooder parents who think they are somehow teaching their kids that sport isn't just about winning. What they fail to realise is that sport is about life lessons and guess what... In life, sometimes you lose and sometimes you win. Kids need to experience losing and how to pick themselves up and keep going. They also need to learn to be gracious winners. Wrapping your kids in cotton wool doesn't do them any favors in the long run.

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[local footy fan]

I am not connected with the rdfl but i have coached u15/16 in the northen leaguge i agree with the smaller grounds and equaling teams out so every team has a chance of a win but disagree with the not tacking to the ground as i have found that this is the hardest thing to try and teach kids at 15 or 16 as by the time they have gotten to this age with out hard tackling or being tackled then they won't do it as they are scared they will get hurt.and as for palying for no points then what is the point of the whole season this will come from the kids more than the parents as they want to emulate their AFL heros and play in a premership

 

[Itsmyshow]

I agree with Doons. Most of the restructure is great. Smaller grounds - tick. No tackling to ground - tick. But no score board or ladders - cross. This has all come about by a generation of doo gooder parents who think they are somehow teaching their kids that sport isn't just about winning. What they fail to realise is that sport is about life lessons and guess what... In life, sometimes you lose and sometimes you win. Kids need to experience losing and how to pick themselves up and keep going. They also need to learn to be gracious winners. Wrapping your kids in cotton wool doesn't do them any favors in the long run.

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I will premise this with, I don't necessarily agree with the ruling either, but in regards to this post in particular, the kids will get to that point of winning/losing will happen when they are 10 anyway, remember, most kids are 9 or young 10.

Again, I don't necessarily agree with it as I am like everyone else. I played in an Under 10 winning Grand Final, one of my lifetime achievements

 

[Jack_Bauer]

Well that is true and I guess the lessons the young blokes will get is patience. Most kids I speak to in this age bracket want to play what they call 'real footy'. They will just have to wait a bit longer.

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[Itsmyshow]

Well that is true and I guess the lessons the young blokes will get is patience. Most kids I speak to in this age bracket want to play what they call 'real footy'. They will just have to wait a bit longer.

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Without a doubt, that is going to be the toughest sell, telling some of these kids that start Auskick at 5 and just want to play real footy will have to wait another 2 years.

The thing is, it will be the kids affected this year that will feel it, younger kids will be aware of it over the longer term.

 

[OMNIPOTENT_1]

PS. Congrats to Halffullonfence for being recognised for his long service to RDFL football and in particular, junior development. Still the best under-18 coach to have graced the competition.

Give it a rest mate...... Glen "Porky" Elliott gets this Award hands down. His record is unsurpassed at under-18 level in the RDFL !!!
One only needs to cast their mind back to last years Granny where his masterful coaching got Riddell the flag in a match where Rupo' were unbackable favorites.
A masterful display, a great game & Glen's 4th or 5th Premiership in 9 years !!! No one in this comp' comes close to his record when it comes to getting the best outa the young local talent.

 

[TheGreatBambino]

Give it a rest mate...... Glen "Porky" Elliott gets this Award hands down. His record is unsurpassed at under-18 level in the RDFL !!!
One only needs to cast their mind back to last years Granny where his masterful coaching got Riddell the flag in a match where Rupo' were unbackable favorites.
A masterful display, a great game & Glen's 4th or 5th Premiership in 9 years !!! No one in this comp' comes close to his record when it comes to getting the best outa the young local talent.

He was our u/18 interleague coach back in 08, wins against AFL Cairns and BFL. Does he still coach ?

 

[matt_nicholls]

Give it a rest mate...... Glen "Porky" Elliott gets this Award hands down. His record is unsurpassed at under-18 level in the RDFL !!!
One only needs to cast their mind back to last years Granny where his masterful coaching got Riddell the flag in a match where Rupo' were unbackable favorites.
A masterful display, a great game & Glen's 4th or 5th Premiership in 9 years !!! No one in this comp' comes close to his record when it comes to getting the best outa the young local talent.

With respect to Porky, who is another great under-18 coach, but he had some decent cattle over the years.

 

[ChrisThaLedg]

With respect to Porky, who is another great under-18 coach, but he had some decent cattle over the years.

Beats is a legend in his own right.. he was a good Under 18s coach but I don't doubt for a second that his best work has been done away from the 18s .. his work with developing the youth below that level far exceeds anything he has achieved as an Under 18s coach..
There is no doubt that Porky is the best 18s coach since the competition formed.. he may have had the cattle, but you can only coach the cattle that you've got available.. and considering Beats' involvement at junior level, there is no doubt that he has done so much to improve the cattle for Porky to coach at some stage pre-Under 18s..
Rupo were unbackable favourites heading into the decider and Riddell pulled off one of the great grand final wins.. it's fitting that Porky retired after aruguably his greatest win

 

[OMNIPOTENT_1]

He was our u/18 interleague coach back in 08, wins against AFL Cairns and BFL. Does he still coach ?

No pal, I believe he decided to retire after last seasons unexpected 1 point Grand Final victory.

 

[OMNIPOTENT_1]

With respect to Porky, who is another great under-18 coach, but he had some decent cattle over the years.

Yes Matt, I have heard this line used before with regard to Porky & his achievements, & frankly it's a bloody insult !
The great thing about Glen was he NEVER lost a game when he "had" the talent in his side to win it !!!.............. BUT also along the way he won a hell of a lot of games when his side was the underdog & severely undermanned, purely because he was able to get the best out of everyone of his players.
There was one year out of those nine he coached where his side only just managed to sneak into the Final 6 in the last H&A game of the year. Anyway, not to be content with that Porky then somehow got that group of young Bomber boys all the way through to a Grand Final appearance. An amazing feat really, into a Grannie from sixth !!!

He'll be sorely missed, by not only Riddell but by the whole RDFL competition as well.

The term "Legend" gets bandied about these days a little too loosely for mine, but when your talking about people of the calibre of Glen "Porky" Elliott & his contribution to the - RDFL firstly as a player (of god knows how many games), the - RDJFL as a very successful under age coach over many years & the - RDFL as the BEST under 18s coach & inter-league coach our league has ever known. Then the accolade of "Legend" status is truly well deserved !!!

A great many boys at Riddell, & moreover right through out the RDFL (via Porkies involvement as inter-league coach) have Glen to thank for reaching their full potential while playing our great game & I can tell them it was NO accident that success more often than not came their way because of it.

 

[OMNIPOTENT_1]

There is no doubt that Porky is the best 18s coach since the competition formed.. he may have had the cattle, but you can only coach the cattle that you've got available.
Rupo were unbackable favourites heading into the decider and Riddell pulled off one of the great grand final wins.. it's fitting that Porky retired after aruguably his greatest win

Couldn't agree more with you here Chris.
I think, to my knowledge also pal (correct me if I'm wrong) Porky is still the last RDFL coach to pull off the remarkable double of - Premiers & Champions all in the one season too.

 

[OMNIPOTENT_1]

Fairly disrespectful conversation in my opinion considering this all started by rob beatson receiving a well earned reward. And now it's a trade off discussing other coaches and who's dick is bigger. I realise Matt Nicholls gave an opinion but I really don't think anything else needed to be said. Sometimes opinions are better kept to yourself when the timing is terrible!!!! Or maybe the timing was perfect for you omni?????

Matt stated an opinion on WHO the BEST RDFL under 18s coach was pal !!! All I did was politely disagree with him & state my opinion based on the FACTS !!!
Glen Elliott's under-age coaching record in the RDJFL & the RDFL is unmatched & undeniable
I never EVER mentioned anyone else on here at ALL....... In a negative way or otherwise !!!

YOU are the ONLY one drawing a negative conclusion to that pal !!!..............But it's NOT the first time you've done that now is it Mongrel ???
Why cant you just be mature enough to give people the respect they deserve to have their opinion on here WITHOUT YOU putting YOUR negative spin on things all the time ???

Be civilised pal & just agree to disagree & move on.

I think we ALL know by now you have an agenda on here & hate ALL things Riddell !!! But really pal, give it a rest because it is really getting a bit tired & old by now !!!
No, the timing is NOT perfect for me at all. It is in fact well & truly OVERDUE !!! The bloke has only just now retired for Christ sake !!! I should have given Glen "Porky" Elliott a rap YEARS AGO !!!!

The bloke is a bloody "Legend" of our Competition, who I might add has NEVER been a big noter or self promoter. (unlike "Some" senior Coaches) But has gone about his business in a low key, no nonsense manner & never sought (or been given) recognition for his efforts along the way...........I should have said something on his behalf long before now !!!..............Anyway -

Thanks for the memories Porky. You were the BEST !!!



Got me buggered WHAT you have against the bloke anyway Mongrel ???.............. Tall poppy syndrome perhaps ???

 

[Doona2]

You remember the first time you meet people, and apart from IMS who I'd got to know a little before Broadford's stupid decision to join in 2009, people like Porky, Beats and Peddo (who I'd met thru my brother in law prior) went out of their way to say hi and introduce themselves. I never got to see Beats in action, but I enjoy communicating and working for him in other football related area's ..... I do however marvel at what Porky has been to able to do, none more so than last season as it was pointed out. Let's not compare them on here, two wonderful (passionate) local football people if you ask me

By the way OMNI, your thoughts on Macedon may be on the money, could they slide outside the top 6 in 2014?

 

[banggoalrowsell]

Matt stated an opinion on WHO the BEST RDFL under 18s coach was pal !!! All I did was politely disagree with him & state my opinion based on the FACTS !!!
Glen Elliott's under-age coaching record in the RDJFL & the RDFL is unmatched & undeniable
I never EVER mentioned anyone else on here at ALL....... In a negative way or otherwise !!!

YOU are the ONLY one drawing a negative conclusion to that pal !!!..............But it's NOT the first time you've done that now is it Mongrel ???
Why cant you just be mature enough to give people the respect they deserve to have their opinion on here WITHOUT YOU putting YOUR negative spin on things all the time ???

Be civilised pal & just agree to disagree & move on.

I think we ALL know by now you have an agenda on here & hate ALL things Riddell !!! But really pal, give it a rest because it is really getting a bit tired & old by now !!!
No, the timing is NOT perfect for me at all. It is in fact well & truly OVERDUE !!! The bloke has only just now retired for Christ sake !!! I should have given Glen "Porky" Elliott a rap YEARS AGO !!!!

The bloke is a bloody "Legend" of our Competition, who I might add has NEVER been a big noter or self promoter. (unlike "Some" senior Coaches) But has gone about his business in a low key, no nonsense manner & never sought (or been given) recognition for his efforts along the way...........I should have said something on his behalf long before now !!!..............Anyway -

Thanks for the memories Porky. You were the BEST !!!



Got me buggered WHAT you have against the bloke anyway Mongrel ???.............. Tall poppy syndrome perhaps ???

Don't forget Porky is THE BEST Bus driver to ever go away with on a weekend , he drives everyone drinks
Can't beat that !!

 

[ChrisThaLedg]

It's amazing that so many of our hard working legends behind the scenes are getting recognised for their efforts in various ways.. Beats has been a star of the competition for a long time and his work at junior level is priceless.. getting out to Bomber land on Monday night, watching the kids in action for the Development squads.. knowing Beats was a big player in making this happen.. it's awesome.. Porky has been a big star in the 18s.. with footy season warming up.. what about some of the other big names that have shaped the competition in recent years? Lets be honest, the quality of players in the question, the standard of football and the direction of the competition as a whole with junior footy, netball and Under 18s netball has taken the league to another planet.. topped off by some big night games.. I have a feeling that this will be the best season we have seen in quite some time..