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Moving right along fella's, the big meeting is taking place at Broadford this Tuesday. Have tried to get an agenda for an aunt and uncle who are life members but to no avail.

I know several RDFL club's are of the opinion "if they wanna go go" but I really fear what will come of the joint if they do go. Let's be honest as it stands right now they wont win a vote from KDFL clubs to allow them in, but obviously questions need to asked and answered and I just hope out of respect to the past those questions are, and a pre-meditated generic type spiel isn't put up.
 
OMNIPOTENT_1 said:
Whether "they" like it or not O.U. their Club has had a chequered history of bagging you blokes, & might I remind you pal, it wasn't that long ago that a group of your guys had to hurriedly scuttle from the Grand Final field of play in fear for their safety & welfare when a bunch of their loyal & vocal supporters decided they wanted to take exception to a couple of your blokes umpiring decisions !!!
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I Might remind you OMNI it wasnt that long ago when Romsey FC helped to protect an umpire, at the Romsey ground after he was attacked by an opposition player.
 
oneeyedblue said:
I Might remind you OMNI it wasnt that long ago when Romsey FC helped to protect an umpire, at the Romsey ground after he was attacked by an opposition player.
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Yep, that's right you did too. Look I know for a fact that not everyone up there in Romsey are Umpire Bashers pal. In fact as always its usually just a very small minded minority. Unfortunately for the Redbacks it appears to be coming from people in positions of power !!!
To my knowledge that's unprecedented in our competition...............& totally unacceptable ! :straining:
Were you at the game yesty ? Were you happy with the 101 point victory your blokes had over your traditional rivals ? Do you have any issue with the standard of Umpiring at yesterdays game ?
 
Doona2 said:
Moving right along fella's, the big meeting is taking place at Broadford this Tuesday. Have tried to get an agenda for an aunt and uncle who are life members but to no avail.

I know several RDFL club's are of the opinion "if they wanna go go" but I really fear what will come of the joint if they do go. Let's be honest as it stands right now they wont win a vote from KDFL clubs to allow them in, but obviously questions need to asked and answered and I just hope out of respect to the past those questions are, and a pre-meditated generic type spiel isn't put up.
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Are you coming along ?
 

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wedgestreet said:
I wasn't talking

Well maybe you should ask the Romsey Coach or President or any other Romsey member or supporter that were sober what they thought of a certain umpire out there yesterday??? Im sure there will be a common theme !!! Unacceptable ( This is the problem you can voice your concerns about anything but Umpires ) As for you Wild Bill no I didn't have a drink yesterday but I had $300 on Carlton at $5.75 versus Geelong to win $1725 and you don't think some of those decisions at the elite level weren't put up for discussion by the media or Carlton coaches members and supporters???? I thought that this was a Forum where we put forward our opinions and views?? All year I have supported the umpires Im open minded and respectful to the Umpires I couldn't do the job it,s a tough gig !! Like Ketson wrote maybe we should invest more money into umpires ?? Why should the players be paid more than the umpires in our competition?? If the AFL are fair Dinkum about everything they preach regarding umpires why don't they invest in Umpires in our competition in a financial sense?? You get what you pay for and the AFL to always take the moral high ground makes me vomit!!
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How is it, that we had one of the most difficult views on the ground, yet we could see and most importantly, understand, why decisions were or weren't paid? We could see decisions paid or not paid to the distress of the crowd from over 100 metres away.. at the end of the day, both sides handled the conditions with difficulty and of course it's hard to umpire in.. slippery conditions.. keeping footing etc which can make it a touch harder to get into the right positions to pay the right decisions as it is for players to execute their skills to perfection..

As for umpires officiating matches where they have a close connection playing in a game.. I'd go as far as saying that anyone on this forum who has said it's unprofessional.. poor scheduling of matches or just poor in general, probably hasn't umpired a game of football .. we should all assume that every umpire goes out to officiate a game of football in any area, with the clear view to umpire the game as fair and as unbiased according to the integrity of the game.. anyone that assumes otherwise, needs to address their feelings about the game.. do we get biased officiating based on involvement with a club? Maybe.. but the first step is to assume that all umpires go out to umpire the best that they can.. on a personal scale, having grown up in Woodend and having mates involved on match day, I should never umpire their games.. when you're umpiring.. you're doing the best to you can to work well as a team with the your team and make the right decisions on the day based on your positioning..

Do we need to pay more for better quality umpires? No, but if clubs get slugged higher fees to assist with umpiring, I would like to see that money go to a program that works on actually attracting young and new umpires.. we're doing the best with the talent that we've got.. as all clubs do on match day.. if club members cannot tolerate it, then do the next best thing, umpire, it's that simple.. I've even said that to a number of players on the field in the heat of the moment..
 
OMNIPOTENT_1 said:
How could it look like anything pal,.....If no one even knows about it ??? :confused:

And yes pal, YOU did not in fact "Bag" Mr Phillips on here.......but instead, just brought the poor blokes whole Umpiring integrity in to question !!! :confused:

Oh, & WHERE on here have I EVER done any "Name Calling" ??? :cool:............................................ Einstein !
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Well noddy,
Again if you read my original post on the matter said if the league is to be professional they should not have blokes umpiring their sons. I am saying the LEAGUE does not look professional if they appoint umpires to do games under these circumstances.
Your response was that this has never happened in this league. Why did you say this????????
Obviously you didn't have the facts, did you just assume the league would not do something so unprofessional????
 
Dismayed said:
Well noddy,
Again if you read my original post on the matter said if the league is to be professional they should not have blokes umpiring their sons. I am saying the LEAGUE does not look professional if they appoint umpires to do games under these circumstances.
Your response was that this has never happened in this league. Why did you say this????????
Obviously you didn't have the facts, did you just assume the league would not do something so unprofessional????
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The league does not appoint umpires.
 
Itsmyshow said:
The league does not appoint umpires.
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Ok fair enough I was wrong on that point.
So I am bagging however appoints the umpires, not the individual umpires on the ground. My point is all about perception. As Einstein agreed it is not a good look, so why do it?

Imagine the out cry if he had paid a dubious free kick to or against his son in the dying seconds that decided the game.
 
Dismayed said:
Ok fair enough I was wrong on that point.
So I am bagging however appoints the umpires, not the individual umpires on the ground. My point is all about perception. As Einstein agreed it is not a good look, so why do it?

Imagine the out cry if he had paid a dubious free kick to or against his son in the dying seconds that decided the game.
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Yes, yes, yes & imagine if aliens land on planet Earth & decide to exterminate all the Earthlings with below average I.Q's.............Imagine that ???
You take care now pal you hear ! ;)

If a free kick is there I don't give a rats arse WHO is making the decision..........Just as long as we STILL have Umpires out there to make it !!! :cool:
 
Dismayed said:
Ok fair enough I was wrong on that point.
So I am bagging however appoints the umpires, not the individual umpires on the ground. My point is all about perception. As Einstein agreed it is not a good look, so why do it?

Imagine the out cry if he had paid a dubious free kick to or against his son in the dying seconds that decided the game.
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It's getting harder and harder to attract umpires these days, the game is becoming a tougher challenge and the abuse and expectation due to so much televised football is increasing unfairly, too often the umpires are expected to umpire games the same way as the guys running around on Channel 7 on a Friday night and the abuse being thrown at them is the same as the crap being spewed at an AFL game, but there is 50000 people there drowning most of that out. Targeted abuse of umpires in local football as a whole is one of the biggest issues that local football is facing, it is what is driving young umpires and potential umpires away from the game, we need to grow up as a football community and accept that they are not going to be perfect every time, they will make mistakes too, but they ain't out there to cheat a team out of a game.. Relationships between clubs and umpires need to be reformed, a stamping out of poor behaviour by working collaboratively is what is needed... Not one club or club official I have ever spoken too has said they would be happy with "club umpires", but if we don't have an opportunity to offer a reason for young umpires to take up the game and develop, we will eventually lose them all together, and when that happens, we think we have it "bad" now.. Stop the intimidation of umpires and let them get in with trying to do the best job that they can.

Now I am through that (sorry, sidetracked)..

I think with the difficulties in numbers, some umpires might only have agreed to return and umpire if they were able to do the job where they could still see their child play the game etc.. Again, if there was a shortage of umpires, it would be club based umpires doing the job, that is when we would see real bias.
 

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Itsmyshow said:
I think with the difficulties in numbers, some umpires might only have agreed to return and umpire if they were able to do the job where they could still see their child play the game etc.. Again, if there was a shortage of umpires, it would be club based umpires doing the job, that is when we would see real bias.
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I remember that was the case with junior umpires on Sunday.. umpiring games in their home town to limit the travel and encourage them to keep going.. not sure if it's still the case :)
 
Dismayed said:
Umpiring your son in a granny would be a very difficult situation.
Pay a free kick to your son and you get accused of favouritism, pay it against him and get accused of trying too hard to not show favouritism.
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Totally agree with this statement, Club best and fairest votes can be similar. Ive seen a player miss the best and fairest because his dad didnt give him a vote, The other 2 cards he got 3s.
It is a clear conflict of interest.
 
OMNIPOTENT_1 said:
Yep, that's right you did too. Look I know for a fact that not everyone up there in Romsey are Umpire Bashers pal. In fact as always its usually just a very small minded minority. Unfortunately for the Redbacks it appears to be coming from people in positions of power !!!
To my knowledge that's unprecedented in our competition...............& totally unacceptable ! :straining:
Were you at the game yesty ? Were you happy with the 101 point victory your blokes had over your traditional rivals ? Do you have any issue with the standard of Umpiring at yesterdays game ?
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Yes I was at the game and socialized with both clubs during and after the seniors. At no time did I hear or see any abuse towards the umpires from either camp. If any RFNC committee member hear any abuse towards the umpires from our members they are told pretty quickly to pull there heads in. And yes I did enjoy the 101 point victory
 
Wild Bill said:
A month out and the Riddell v Romsey game is starting to generate some heat. Maybe the league should get in contact with Ticketek for them to sell tickets. They may run out of room.

The only place to be at 2pm on July 12 is Riddell.
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Think I'll wait for the "main event" in September :D
 

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Keston said:
Diggers v Riddell
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Anyone who thinks that Romsey are not perfectly positioned for a run at the flag is kidding themselves, Mongrel has worked hard to identify the right areas of improvement and every time I see Romsey they have improved again.

Right now, Romsey are the best coached team with the best list in the competition.
 
Itsmyshow said:
Anyone who thinks that Romsey are not perfectly positioned for a run at the flag is kidding themselves, Mongrel has worked hard to identify the right areas of improvement and every time I see Romsey they have improved again.

Right now, Romsey are the best coached team with the best list in the competition.
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Makes you wonder then pal why they need to whinge about the Umpires & the job they are doing now doesn't it ??? :cool:
 
Long time reader first time poster.
Whilst i dont wish to dwell on the negative side of this forum , its clear some people need to grow up in particular the main antagonist and pot stirrer.
No need to name names everybody would know who im on about.
Anyway the umpire debate its simple with out them we dont have a game.
Yes they will make mistakes they are human after all !
I agree with itsmyshow the relationship between clubs and the umpires is critical, we want the young kids to come through and not be put off by the very few who feel the need to hurl abuse at them whether it be at the game or on here its all the same in my book.
 
Itsmyshow said:
Anyone who thinks that Romsey are not perfectly positioned for a run at the flag is kidding themselves, Mongrel has worked hard to identify the right areas of improvement and every time I see Romsey they have improved again.

Right now, Romsey are the best coached team with the best list in the competition.
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Agree - if sportsbet had the odds out this year I would be all over the redbacks.
 
OMNIPOTENT_1 said:
Makes you wonder then pal why they need to whinge about the Umpires & the job they are doing now doesn't it ??? :cool:
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To be honest, I think that the whole thing was blown well over the top for very little reason. But anyways, time to move on from that rubbish and start talking about the good stuff that's happening.

Was fantastic to see the Kangaroos bounce back to a bit of form on the weekend, they were back to playing to their biggest strengths, linking up by playing first option footy and using the best target going forward rather than a focus on one or two targets, while they will need to continue that form on over coming weeks to be considered a main threat again, it was a brilliant start. Mitch Streiff was back to some of his best footy and Matt Welsh was brilliant off half back, his ball use was devastating.

The Burras were simply flat, they never got going and never looked like getting going, Smails was comprehensively beaten by Gregory and Breen was kept quiet by Tate. But the Burra still have plenty of upside, they will welcome back Lenny Clark and few others still to come back into the team, but that loss might make it a tough run for that coveted 3rd spot.
 

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